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Post by jakesully on Mar 9, 2021 15:07:31 GMT
I am very curious to know which movie roles you'd wish were played by some other actor.
While I still really like Kingdom of heaven , I sincerely wish Orlando Bloom wasn't the lead role in it. Sir Ridley Scott should have went with his Ned Kelly co star....Heath Ledger. Ledger was a flat out amazing actor in damn near everything and had a great /commanding screen presence to him . Ledger would have crushed that role for sure!
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Post by wallsofjericho on Mar 9, 2021 16:08:41 GMT
Hackman as Frank Costello instead of Nicholson in The Departed. Don't think Gene would have gone full honey glazed ham like old Jack and would have been a guy you would not want to cross.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 9, 2021 16:15:27 GMT
I've said 2 of these on here before I think - * Pacino instead of Michael Douglas in Wonder Boys - and I like Douglas here (usually I'm pretty "meh" on him) it's one of his best performances of his whole career ..........but Pacino would have killed that role. You're OUT Mike...... * PSH instead of Dano in TWBB - love the movie but it has big flaws while also being great - Dano is a big flaw imo.........yeah yeah PSH is too old - don't care, rewrite it, make it work, that's why you make the big money PTA, wtf!
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 9, 2021 16:35:35 GMT
Fern in Nomadland played by Sissy Spacek instead. Not that McDormand was bad, I just think Spacek would've been better. Or Hunter.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 9, 2021 16:56:30 GMT
Someone other than Ben Affleck in Live by Night.
I like him plea to in The Town and Argo but he wasn’t the right fit here, especially with the personal stuff he was dealing with at the time and also being bulky as hell for Batman.
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Post by jakesully on Mar 9, 2021 17:16:40 GMT
Someone other than Ben Affleck in Live by Night. I like him plea to in The Town and Argo but he wasn’t the right fit here, especially with the personal stuff he was dealing with at the time and also being bulky as hell for Batman. ^^^ damn good choice and I think the lead should have been Leonardo Dicaprio (he was one of the producers of the film after all) also he is waaay more of a box office draw compared to Ben. And while I still dig the film , it was a huge flop for Affleck at the box office. He should have not starred in it.
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Post by franklin on Mar 10, 2021 4:34:33 GMT
Al Pacino as Capt. Willard in Apocalypse Now (apparently he was the first choice).
Harrison Ford instead of Nick Nolte in Cape Fear (first choice too)
Michelle Pfeiffer in The Silence of The Lambs
Scarlett Johansson in My Week With Marilyn and The Favourite(Emma Stone role)
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Post by stephen on Mar 10, 2021 16:46:05 GMT
Heath Ledger as Balian in Kingdom of Heaven is inspired as all hell. I was always imagining Nikolaj Coster-Waldau in the role, seeing how the handled Jaime Lannister and the fact that he’s actually in the original film in a tiny role (and oh, how literally anyone else in Black Hawk Down’s sprawling cast would’ve been better for the part than Bloom), but Ledger fits amazingly well.
I will also co-sign Hackman in the Nicholson role in The Departed, and I’d swap Damon out for either of the Affleck brothers. Casey is the better actor, but I think Ben would show the internal conflict in Sullivan just as readily, and I think you could see a path to that role if you watch his amazing work in Hollywoodland.
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Post by Allenism on Mar 10, 2021 17:44:29 GMT
Keeping it more recent:
Charlize Theron, Gone Girl (how she ended up in the shitty Gillian Flynn adaptation is still a mystery) Rose Byrne, Black Swan (could've been a breakout for her) Glenn Close, Doubt Andrea Riseborough and Jodie Comer (replacing Weisz and Stone, respectively), The Favourite
This is going further back, but I also would've loved to see what Parker Posey could've done with Catherine Keener's role in Being John Malkovich. Keener was great as is, though.
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Post by flasuss on Mar 10, 2021 23:18:34 GMT
I am very curious to know which movie roles you'd wish were played by some other actor. While I still really like Kingdom of heaven , I sincerely wish Orlando Bloom wasn't the lead role in it. Sir Ridley Scott should have went with his Ned Kelly co star....Heath Ledger. Ledger was a flat out amazing actor in damn near everything and had a great /commanding screen presence to him . Ledger would have crushed that role for sure! To be fair, at point Bloom was a star in 3 of the biggest movies of all time, Ledger was not very well-known. I've said 2 of these on here before I think - * Pacino instead of Michael Douglas in Wonder Boys - and I like Douglas here (usually I'm pretty "meh" on him) it's one of his best performances of his whole career ..........but Pacino would have killed that role. You're OUT Mike...... * PSH instead of Dano in TWBB - love the movie but it has big flaws while also being great - Dano is a big flaw imo.........yeah yeah PSH is too old - don't care, rewrite it, make it work, that's why you make the big money PTA, wtf! Not only PSH was 15 years too old, he was also too imposing for the role. It needed someone that Plainview could probably squash like a bug.
And, no I don't think Pacino would have been better at Wonder Boys either.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 11, 2021 11:52:59 GMT
I've said 2 of these on here before I think - * Pacino instead of Michael Douglas in Wonder Boys - and I like Douglas here (usually I'm pretty "meh" on him) it's one of his best performances of his whole career ..........but Pacino would have killed that role. You're OUT Mike...... * PSH instead of Dano in TWBB - love the movie but it has big flaws while also being great - Dano is a big flaw imo.........yeah yeah PSH is too old - don't care, rewrite it, make it work, that's why you make the big money PTA, wtf! Not only PSH was 15 years too old, he was also too imposing for the role. It needed someone that Plainview could probably squash like a bug.
And, no I don't think Pacino would have been better at Wonder Boys either.
You mean DDL wouldn't be able to "squash him like a bug" the way Meryl Streep did in Doubt, or his own crush on Mark Wahlberg did in Boogie Nights, or his own internal collapse did in Love Liza ..........there's a lot more examples of him playing "weak" - I mean A LOT more - that's one of the reasons he's an all-time top 10 American film actor to me. As for the "15 years too old" yes........as it was filmed, that's true as I also said .........I'm just saying PTA should have rewritten that part for my liking. As for Wonder Boys, well, okay, Douglas is great there as I said ..........but I'm one of those guys that would tell you if they were making a movie called "The Michael Douglas Story" - Al Pacino would be better in that even than the actual Michael Douglas
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Post by flasuss on Mar 11, 2021 12:46:52 GMT
Not only PSH was 15 years too old, he was also too imposing for the role. It needed someone that Plainview could probably squash like a bug.
And, no I don't think Pacino would have been better at Wonder Boys either.
You mean DDL wouldn't be able to "squash him like a bug" the way Meryl Streep did in Doubt, or his own crush on Mark Wahlberg did in Boogie Nights, or his own internal collapse did in Love Liza ..........there's a lot more examples of him playing "weak" - I mean A LOT more - that's one of the reasons he's an all-time top 10 American film actor to me. As for the "15 years too old" yes........as it was filmed, that's true as I also said .........I'm just saying PTA should have rewritten that part for my liking. As for Wonder Boys, well, okay, Douglas is great there as I said ..........but I'm one of those guys that would tell you if they were making a movie called "The Michael Douglas Story" - Al Pacino would be better in that even than the actual Michael Douglas I don't just mean like own him, also physically. Remember that final scene with PSH. It just doesn't work.
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Post by rhodoraonline on Mar 13, 2021 0:43:15 GMT
Any other good actor in the same age group to replace Leo in The Revenant. He was the only weak point despite being good and all that. While he was able to sell his villainous and classic movie star characters in his two Tarantino period piece outings, he was unable to sell an 18th century man out in the wild the same way.
I also cannot get over Bale missing out on Steve Jobs role because of the widow's threats. It was that rare role that fit him like a glove and would have made a dream triangle with Fincher and Sorkin. I remember at that time at IMDb some people speculated that he may have not been up to Sorkin's rapid fire dialogue, but he is always up to any challenge and I have sources to the effect that he very much wanted to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 13:43:03 GMT
Monica Bellucci should have played Ava Gardner in Paco León's Arde Madrid. Debi Mazar is an attractive woman, but...
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Post by jakesully on Mar 19, 2021 1:22:22 GMT
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Jake Gyllenhaal as Peter Parker/Spider- Man in Sam Raimi's Spider - Man trilogy would have been so much better. Hot off of the release of the cult hit Donnie Darko, I thought he'd be a PERFECT Spider Man . Not only is Gyllenhaal a superior actor to Tobey Maguire's bitch ass but he would have been much more age appropriate (Maguire was born in 1975 while Gyllenhaal was born in 1980 ). Plus Gyllenhaal is outstanding at playing dorky / awkward characters imo (Zodiac, Donnie Darko etc). Oh well
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Post by michael128 on Mar 19, 2021 2:37:04 GMT
I would kill myself if it meant getting to see Beyoncé and Clint's A Star is Born. A match literally made in heaven.
I guess it could still come to fruition. Here's hoping.
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Post by mhynson27 on Mar 19, 2021 2:46:31 GMT
I would kill myself if it meant getting to see Beyoncé and Clint's A Star is Born. A match literally made in heaven. I guess it could still come to fruition. Here's hoping. After seeing that, a lot of us would want to kill ourselves too.
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Post by countjohn on Mar 19, 2021 5:39:08 GMT
I would kill myself if it meant getting to see Beyoncé and Clint's A Star is Born. A match literally made in heaven. I guess it could still come to fruition. Here's hoping. Tom Cruise was going to play the male lead back then too, right, I remember that being announced in like 2010. That casting seemed so perfect and it would have been nice to see Beyonce try dramatic acting again.
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Post by bob-coppola on Mar 19, 2021 12:24:00 GMT
Fern in Nomadland played by Sissy Spacek instead. Not that McDormand was bad, I just think Spacek would've been better. Or Hunter. Nomadland is my favorite McDormand performance, but imagining Spacek in the film... That would be a killer, just perfect.
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Post by stephen on Mar 19, 2021 15:29:52 GMT
Fern in Nomadland played by Sissy Spacek instead. Not that McDormand was bad, I just think Spacek would've been better. Or Hunter. Nomadland is my favorite McDormand performance, but imagining Spacek in the film... That would be a killer, just perfect. Here's a bit of speculation for you: let's say Spacek had played the role, and was getting the exact same critical momentum and adulation as McDormand, and had won the exact same amount of critics' prizes and gotten the same precursor attention. Would she be our frontrunner? Or would we still be favoring Mulligan? Because the reason we dismiss McDormand so readily is because she's already a two-time winner and we were looking for alternatives, but Sissy came extremely close to the second win in 2001 and it's the sort of big comeback narrative the Academy does love.
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 19, 2021 15:59:41 GMT
Here's a bit of speculation for you: let's say Spacek had played the role, and was getting the exact same critical momentum and adulation as McDormand, and had won the exact same amount of critics' prizes and gotten the same precursor attention. Would she be our frontrunner? Or would we still be favoring Mulligan? Because the reason we dismiss McDormand so readily is because she's already a two-time winner and we were looking for alternatives, but Sissy came extremely close to the second win in 2001 and it's the sort of big comeback narrative the Academy does love. I think she would win. The only thing keeping McDormand from winning this year is the fact that she's won 2 (and one recently). If she hadn't won for Three Billboards she would've swept the season like nobody's business, so Sissy would've swept as well.
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Post by bob-coppola on Mar 19, 2021 18:13:38 GMT
Nomadland is my favorite McDormand performance, but imagining Spacek in the film... That would be a killer, just perfect. Here's a bit of speculation for you: let's say Spacek had played the role, and was getting the exact same critical momentum and adulation as McDormand, and had won the exact same amount of critics' prizes and gotten the same precursor attention. Would she be our frontrunner? Or would we still be favoring Mulligan? Because the reason we dismiss McDormand so readily is because she's already a two-time winner and we were looking for alternatives, but Sissy came extremely close to the second win in 2001 and it's the sort of big comeback narrative the Academy does love. That's something to think about. First, in this scenario, does Nomadland get as big as it got with Spacek as the lead? McDormad being the main character brought a lot of attention to the film, as she's in a new career peak/revival. She gained a new-found popularity across different generations after Three Billboards..., which is something Spacek doesn't have. Spacek is still a cinephile darling and it's not a reach to think she could be the frontrunner, but maybe she doesn't have the career momentum to be the #1 actress with a role so subtle and quiet. I don't know, maybe Fern just isn't an Oscar-winning role because of her more quiet/listener nature. But seeing how Nomadland is by far the BP/BD frontrunner, it's not impossible, and she could win on the strenght of the movie.
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Post by chris3 on Mar 19, 2021 18:15:53 GMT
- Anyone but Michael Cera in Scott Pilgrim vs. The World (one of the most egregious miscasts in recent history)
- Al Pacino over Martin Sheen (and his brother) in Apocalypse Now (Sheen is weak as hell in that role IMO)
- Julia Garner over Carey Mulligan in Promising Young Woman (love this movie but Mulligan was not totally convincing to me)
- Woody Harrelson over Brad Pitt in Inglourious Basterds (ALL the American Basterds are horrendously miscast and mar the film)
- Johnny Depp over Keanu Reeves in Bram Stoker's Dracula (although Reeves' infamous performance does have its own charm)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 18:27:41 GMT
Close would have been the better choice for most of Streep's post- Prada roles, honestly...
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Post by countjohn on Mar 19, 2021 18:43:10 GMT
- Anyone but Michael Cera in Scott Pilgrim vs. The World (one of the most egregious miscasts in recent history) Not familiar with the graphic novel so I don't know how he was characterized there, but Cera pulling down all those beautiful women struck me as ridiculous. The only one I could even partially believe was the ditzy high school girl. MEW, Brie Larson, and the cool punk drummer wouldn't want anything to do with some little sniveling guy like that.
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