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Post by quetee on Feb 28, 2021 17:08:18 GMT
I read his commentary from time to time but as of late he is starting to annoy the f out of me with his constant bullshit in regards to black films. He claims that critics are inflating the scores of black films because they don't want to piss of people. What kind of non-sense is this?
He even went as far to say had Soul's characters been white, the critics would have given it a bad review. Seriously? He needs to be checked big time for his low-keyness.
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Post by LaraQ on Feb 28, 2021 17:10:15 GMT
Low key racist.Low key misogynist.Low key homophobic.You name it.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 28, 2021 17:36:54 GMT
I don't think so in my reading of him, I think people toss that term around way too much - heck people have called me racist - when they really mean to call me a genius / opinionated asshole sweetheart.
Now having said that, I haven't seen Soul so can't speak to that....and Jeff Wells sometimes suffers from inconsistencies in his critical reasoning .....but I would also say that Armond White would agree (I'm guessing) that critics are indeed "inflating scores" of black films.......is that racist though..... or just a controversial take..... or just plain wrong?
It can be the last 2 of those 3 without being the worst of those 3.....I'm willing to cut Wells the same slack as White......
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Post by quetee on Feb 28, 2021 17:50:24 GMT
I don't think so in my reading of him, I think people toss that term around way too much - heck people have called me racist - when they really mean to call me a genius / opinionated asshole sweetheart. Now having said that, I haven't seen Soul so can't speak to that....and Jeff Wells sometimes suffers from inconsistencies in his critical reasoning .....but I would also say that Armond White would agree (I'm guessing) that critics are indeed "inflating scores" of black films.......is that racist though..... or just a controversial take..... or just plain wrong? It can be the last 2 of those 3 without being the worst of those 3.....I'm willing to cut Wells the same slack as White...... If the shoe fits then you will be deemed one. The term is being used simply because there are people who live in a bubble and don't realize that they are in fact a racist. He is targeting black films with good reviews that he doesn't like. Okay, so he doesn't like them so what that doesn't mean that other critics are giving the movie a pass just to appease the masses. He is a low-key racist. Period. |
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Post by stephen on Feb 28, 2021 17:55:40 GMT
I think there can be something said for attempts to counteract the automatic spamming of low ratings that come from internet trolls on films dealing with minorities or women, but I definitely don’t think that’s the primary intention of critics, and just because a film dealing with something in that sphere gets a good rating does not mean that it was the product of a pre-existing agenda. If Wells thinks that Soul is only getting positive response because of the ethnicity of its leading character, then he's an idiot and, yes, that argument is pretty bigoted because he's using race as an excuse.
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Post by countjohn on Feb 28, 2021 18:27:12 GMT
I think this does happen with a lot of the female led "strong female character" reboots. Don't really think it happens with a movie with a black cast and particularly not serious dramas. Maybe Black Panther a little bit but that did have a couple major superlatives going for it (great visual style, MBJ's performance) and MCU movies in general get hyperbolic praise on release regardless of the race of the protagonist. He even went as far to say had Soul's characters been white, the critics would have given it a bad review. Seriously? He needs to be checked big time for his low-keyness. If Soul's lead character had been white they would have avoided the dumb controversy about "not seeing his blackness" or whatever and it might have gotten slightly better reviews. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 28, 2021 18:33:58 GMT
I don't think so in my reading of him, I think people toss that term around way too much - heck people have called me racist - when they really mean to call me a genius / opinionated asshole sweetheart. Now having said that, I haven't seen Soul so can't speak to that....and Jeff Wells sometimes suffers from inconsistencies in his critical reasoning .....but I would also say that Armond White would agree (I'm guessing) that critics are indeed "inflating scores" of black films.......is that racist though..... or just a controversial take..... or just plain wrong? It can be the last 2 of those 3 without being the worst of those 3.....I'm willing to cut Wells the same slack as White...... If the shoe fits then you will be deemed one. Well the shoe doesn't fit me .......so I won't be deemed one. Period. |
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Feb 28, 2021 18:38:35 GMT
Soul, the film that at 95% on RT is Pete Docter's lowest rated film, is only getting good reviews because of race?
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Post by mrimpossible on Feb 28, 2021 21:58:08 GMT
I don't think so. He sounds very bitter of the culture though.
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Post by quetee on Mar 1, 2021 2:21:31 GMT
I don't think so. He sounds very bitter of the culture though. He obviously doesn't know one black person or else he would have been checked years ago for his nonsense. Black people don't stan for black films just to stan. We are the first to call out something is bad. If he is on point then why did critics give that Billie Holiday movie horrible reviews? He only attacks the black movies with high RT scores. |
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Post by quetee on Mar 1, 2021 2:22:03 GMT
Soul, the film that at 95% on RT is Pete Docter's lowest rated film, is only getting good reviews because of race? Yes. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 1, 2021 14:37:21 GMT
Gotta say I still don't think he's a racist but now I'm convinced he's a dumbass if he thinks people are going to pay anything - at all - period - for all his behind a paywall content......wtf.......baffling move.......  |
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Post by quetee on Jul 1, 2021 16:15:02 GMT
Gotta say I still don't think he's a racist but now I'm convinced he's a dumbass if he thinks people are going to pay anything - at all - period - for all his behind a paywall content......wtf.......baffling move....... Haven't been to site in months. It's pay only now?? |
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 1, 2021 16:20:42 GMT
Gotta say I still don't think he's a racist but now I'm convinced he's a dumbass if he thinks people are going to pay anything - at all - period - for all his behind a paywall content......wtf.......baffling move....... Haven't been to site in months. It's pay only now?? It's a mix but leaning mostly pay - maybe 60% or a bit higher right now ......maybe he's just testing it out (?)..........it's an extremely disappointing site at the moment...... |
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Post by quetee on Jul 1, 2021 18:40:06 GMT
Haven't been to site in months. It's pay only now?? It's a mix but leaning mostly pay - maybe 60% or a bit higher right now ......maybe he's just testing it out (?)..........it's an extremely disappointing site at the moment...... So I checked this out and it appears he's getting $420 per month right now from people. That's not going to be enough money. And he's wrong about advertising, they hasn't really gone down that much. He either needs to find another ad service or his traffic isn't high enough to get major revenue. And yeah, the site just looks weird with this half on half off mumbo jumbo. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 25, 2021 19:14:23 GMT
This is from TODAY  - I defend this dude a lot because he can write well and he knows some stuff about movies ......but this is either begging to be called a racist or ridiculous OTT self-assessment. This stuff ruined his site (among other things) - if anybody is going to call you a "Racist" on the internet (or on a message board) - it isn't something to be proud of or to take too seriously like this - tell them they're a dumbass and to Fnck Off....... or go to church and seek God for guidance... ..........but this stuff .......is the worst kind of cringy and exploitative click bait Jeff....
Son of “I Can’t Apologize”
…for being male, cisgender, gender-conforming, heterosexual, a fertile parent, tall and reasonably attractive, able-bodied, healthy, not fat, a product of an upper-middle-class upbringing, urban, qualified in writing, editing and column-writing, literate, English-speaking, a former Episcopalian, descended from Anglo-Europeans and therefore white |
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Post by quetee on Sept 25, 2021 19:30:17 GMT
Okay, so I just realized TODAY that I have no clue what reasonably attractive means and apparently he doesn't either.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 25, 2021 19:39:57 GMT
This is from TODAY - I defend this dude a lot because he can write well and he knows some stuff about movies ......but this is either begging to be called a racist or ridiculous OTT self-assessment. This stuff ruined his site (among other things) - if anybody is going to call you a "Racist" on the internet (or on a message board) - it isn't something to be proud of or to take too seriously like this - tell them they're a dumbass and to Fnck Off....... or go to church and seek God for guidance... ..........but this stuff .......is the worst kind of cringy and exploitative click bait Jeff....
Son of “I Can’t Apologize”
…for being male, cisgender, gender-conforming, heterosexual, a fertile parent, tall and reasonably attractive, able-bodied, healthy, not fat, a product of an upper-middle-class upbringing, urban, qualified in writing, editing and column-writing, literate, English-speaking, a former Episcopalian, descended from Anglo-Europeans and therefore white The best response to this from his readers - not the same old self-impressed jokey, dumbass shit you usually get online which is what he wants - but actually on point and logical .............from somebody named Hanru ............this was my very first thought too almost exactly......... Amen:
When everyone else is digging into a new Coen film, you’re running some 6-month-old woe-is-me, Lidia Soprano-grade bullshit. Really leaning into the "Elsewhere" part of the column these days |
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Post by quetee on Sept 25, 2021 19:46:22 GMT
This is from TODAY - I defend this dude a lot because he can write well and he knows some stuff about movies ......but this is either begging to be called a racist or ridiculous OTT self-assessment. This stuff ruined his site (among other things) - if anybody is going to call you a "Racist" on the internet (or on a message board) - it isn't something to be proud of or to take too seriously like this - tell them they're a dumbass and to Fnck Off....... or go to church and seek God for guidance... ..........but this stuff .......is the worst kind of cringy and exploitative click bait Jeff....
Son of “I Can’t Apologize”
…for being male, cisgender, gender-conforming, heterosexual, a fertile parent, tall and reasonably attractive, able-bodied, healthy, not fat, a product of an upper-middle-class upbringing, urban, qualified in writing, editing and column-writing, literate, English-speaking, a former Episcopalian, descended from Anglo-Europeans and therefore white The best response to this from his readers - not the same old self-impressed jokey, dumbass shit you usually get online which is what he wants - but actually on point and logical .............from somebody named Hanru ............this was my very first thought too almost exactly......... Amen:
When everyone else is digging into a new Coen film, you’re running some 6-month-old woe-is-me, Lidia Soprano-grade bullshit. Really leaning into the "Elsewhere" part of the column these days Well, that reference is on point. He must have been bored or something because nobody asked for that article. People want to discuss the Oscar race and are not trying to figure out which boxes he checks on his tinder profile. |
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Post by jakesully on Oct 3, 2021 10:59:00 GMT
Why are there 2 different threads in the 1st page of this section focusing on this douche bag nobody ?  lol He definitely comes across an internet troll loser that likes to try and get a rise out of people. imo probably best to just ignore him. |
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- I defend this dude a lot because he can write well and he knows some stuff about movies ......but this is either begging to be called a racist or ridiculous OTT self-assessment. 
lol He definitely comes across an internet troll loser that likes to try and get a rise out of people. imo probably best to just ignore him. 