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Post by wattsnew on Feb 19, 2021 18:42:51 GMT
Pretty solid list imo. Thoughts?
35. Chris Evans
34. Anne Hathaway
33. Matt Damon
32. Mahershala Ali
31. Steven Yeun
30. Lupita Nyong'o
29. Amy Adams
28. Oscar Isaac
27. Tessa Thompson
26. Daniel Craig
25. Ryan Reynolds
24. Chris Hemsworth
23. Emily Blunt
22. Joaquin Phoenix
21. Scarlett Johansson
20. Ben Affleck
19. Jamie Foxx
18. Adam Sandler
17. Melissa McCarthy
16. Bradley Cooper
15. Viola Davis
14. Samuel L. Jackson
13. Adam Driver
12. Will Smith
11. Robert Downey Jr.
10. Tom Hanks
9. Cate Blanchett
8. Dwayne Johnson
7. Keanu Reeves
6. Meryl Streep
5. Brad Pitt
4. Tom Cruise
3. Denzel Washington
2. Charlize Theron
1. Leonardo DiCaprio
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Post by sirchuck23 on Feb 19, 2021 18:47:01 GMT
Aw shit...
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 19, 2021 18:51:18 GMT
Pretty solid list imo. Thoughts? 1. Leonardo DiCaprio Ok, I'm with it at 1st............ but when his 2 biggest rivals (to me) (Bale/Phoenix) are missing and Phoenix just won the Oscar for fncksake, I'm going to just call it "weirdly random"  |
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Post by wattsnew on Feb 19, 2021 18:52:31 GMT
Pretty solid list imo. Thoughts? 1. Leonardo DiCaprio Ok, I'm with it at 1st............ but when his 2 biggest rivals (to me) (Bale/Phoenix) are missing and Phoenix just won the Oscar for fncksake, I'm going to just call it "weirdly random" Phoenix is #22 |
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 19, 2021 18:57:37 GMT
Ok, I'm with it at 1st............ but when his 2 biggest rivals (to me) (Bale/Phoenix) are missing and Phoenix just won the Oscar for fncksake, I'm going to just call it "weirdly random" Phoenix is #22 Sorry, missed that, thank you. What's the criteria here because it still seems rather random to me anyway ........ |
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 19, 2021 19:05:31 GMT
Weird fucking list. Several of these people are not what I would call " movie stars". Steven Yuen, Tessa Thompson....  . We are supposed to believe they are "movie stars" and Hugh Jackman is less of a "movie star" than them 
And where the fuck is Clint Eastwood? He can still carry a movie like The Mule to a 174 million dollar worldwide gross at 90 years old. Now that is a Movie Star! Still, it's just some podcast. The list dropped three days ago and no one is talking about it. For good reason, I guess. |
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Feb 19, 2021 19:20:54 GMT
I like this podcast and The Ringer is certainly not nothing, but it's just a list two people made. I haven't listened to the episode, probably won't because the subject just doesn't interest me, so I can't speak to their methodology but it's a big whatever to me.
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Post by countjohn on Feb 19, 2021 19:44:24 GMT
Top movie stars over 35 is a bit redundant (for men anyway) since most movie stars are in that age bracket because you have to establish yourself first and wait for the older generation to age out of taking the top roles from you.
Anyway, as others have said, some pretty "random" choices. Even though no one has commented on it yet to me the biggest headscratcher is Theron at no. 2. Are they honestly suggesting she's a bigger star than Cruise, Denzel, Pitt, Streep, The Rock, or Will Smith?
Driver at 13 is also high and seems to be more on projection than anything. Johansson and Adams should both be higher and are other people I'd consider bigger draws than Theron. Damon also seems a bit low.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Feb 19, 2021 19:47:12 GMT
I'm a fan of The Big Picture Show, but yeah it's a strangely ordered and put together list. I assume of the same names like Yeun are on the list due to recent critical successes they've had, Minari for example, but then there are a like of couples of names that make even less sense somehow. Also DiCaprio being #1 completely breaks with the rules that the list set up in the first place, Sean and Amanda even acknowledge that. Plus this list is incomplete, because it's missing Kevin Hart.  (I'm half serious). Who pre-pandemic was basically one of the last five remaining theatrical draws we had, everything that dude has done from 2013 and on has been nearly box office gold. To make a January dump like The Upside gross over 100m is extremely impressive. Surely they had to have considered him?! |
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 20, 2021 1:08:56 GMT
It's another wonky list, IMO, despite being less ridiculous than the NY Times one. Viola Davis is not a movie star, period. Neither is Adam Driver, who has never led a hit movie, and frankly I suspect may never. I like Foxx, but he's not a movie star right now; he was in the mid-to-late-2000s. Calling Joaquin a movie star seems weird to me, as his career has been very flop-centric, with perhaps only 3 roles in his entire career registering to the general public (Gladiator, Walk the Line, Joker), two of which were 16 and 21 years ago. Him being a very talented actor is not enough. Tessa Thompson? Get the fuck outta here. Steven Yeun is a very good actor and I'm rooting for him, and he has the ability to be a movie star, but I can't give him that just off of Burning, Minari, Mayhem, etc. He's a TV star who has come out of the gate with some excellent film performances; it probably won't be his fault if he never has a film role as "popular" as Glenn, but assessing star status isn't about what "should" happen. Oscar Isaac? On what basis? Again, merely being in a Star Wars movie doesn't make you a "movie star". I can barely remember his character's name. You get credit if you're something as iconic as Han Solo or Luke or Leia or Vader, but not for this fumbled Disney wretchedness. I have other complaints, but I'll stop there.
Gosling belongs on this list more than at least half of these people. The way he was dismissed so casually was infuriating to me.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Feb 20, 2021 1:21:36 GMT
My impression of lots of these guys are extremely vague.
Driver is still that dude that wouldn't touch Lena Dunham in Girls, Tessa Thompson is boobs and ass to me and my impression of her is only when her clothes are off, and Yeun is that guy that got his face knocked in with a club in The Walking Dead.
Ali, Isaac, N'yongo, and Davis.......ehhhh, you can argue Davis has gotten 1st black woman in America status now that it's 2021, but I think she'll go up and down with the quality of her projects, and she'll go away fast once her star fades and her project choices decline. Hathaway had a brief run of 6 years but she's quickly heading down the Renee Zellweger path and will probably need a music biopic on Ann Wilson in 2027 to resurrect her career.
35 people above Lawrence? Yeah no. She's a white people's fixation for sure - but still that segment of white people living in suburbs and below 25 adores her, and her fanboys will come back out in an instant at her next hit. Yeah.... this list is officially closed down.
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Post by franklin on Feb 20, 2021 13:27:25 GMT
Scarlett Johansson with all the MCU movies and Lucy alone (without even mentioning Marriage Story, Her, and Jojo Rabbit) in this decade should be waaaay higher.
She was basically the It girl of the 00s, the sex symbol of a generation (mine specifically) with Match Point, Vicky, Cristina, Barcelona, and others.
She should be easily in the top 10.
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Post by franklin on Feb 20, 2021 13:33:27 GMT
Plus, Christian Bale missing this list when Mahershala Ali and Steven Yeun (who are absolutely not movie stars, it's crazy they are even in the conversation) are here is just ridiculous.
He lead one of the most iconic comic book trilogies ever, he opened American Hustle, The Big Short, and Ford V. Ferrari, come on, people!
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Post by jakesully on Feb 21, 2021 0:31:12 GMT
Have absolutely no problem with Leo at #1. He is the biggest movie star in the world after all (and talented as hell)
He can get ANY project green lit .
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Post by speeders on Feb 21, 2021 15:48:13 GMT
35 people above Lawrence? Yeah no. She's a white people's fixation for sure - but still that segment of white people living in suburbs and below 25 adores her, and her fanboys will come back out in an instant at her next hit. Yeah.... this list is officially closed down. Jennifer Lawrence is only 30 years old, that's obviously why she wasn't included. |
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Feb 21, 2021 16:04:07 GMT
This list overall is terrible
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Feb 21, 2021 16:52:12 GMT
No Gosling? No Gyllenhaal?
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Post by fiosnasiob on Feb 21, 2021 16:53:21 GMT
When you see Cate The great and The Rock side by side at 8 and 9, you really ask yourself about the main criterias. Both deserves to be there for very different reasons. Good to see the Old Sam on the list, despite not being that much often the Lead, he's one of the most reconizable and enduring name/face in modern cinema, a true movie Icon. Leo and Denzel at the first 2 males places seems logic, curious to see where Leo will be at 60+. Theron is too high but she's very talented, very popular and few actors have that Monster/Mad Max combo. Few years ago, a list like this without Clooney would have make a little more noises, Kidman always appeared to be more a movie star type than say, Blanchett so I'm a little surprised that she doesn't appears but like Clooney, I can see why she's missing in a 2021 list. Of course some names doesn't deserves to be here at all but it is what it is... |
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 21, 2021 17:00:58 GMT
When you see Cate The great and The Rock side by side at 8 and 9, you really ask yourself about the main criterias. Both deserves to be there for very different reasons. Good to see the Old Sam on the list, despite not being that much often the Lead, he's one of the most reconizable and enduring name/face in modern cinema, a true movie Icon. Leo and Denzel at the first 2 males places seems logic, curious to see where Leo will be at 60+. Theron is too high but she's very talented, very popular and few actors have that Monster/Mad Max combo. Few years ago, a list like this without Clooney would have make a little more noises, Kidman always appeared to be more a movie star type than say, Blanchett so I'm a little surprised that she doesn't appears but like Clooney, I can see why she's missing in a 2021 list. Of course some names doesn't deserves to be here at all but it is what it is... You're overthinking this list, imho. Steve Yuen isn't even a movie star. First criteria for a "movie star" list should at least being one Just realised Sandra Bullock, one of the most consistent female movie stars out there for decades, isn't on this list. And she is still a big deal today, so it's a pretty bad omission (she was the biggest draw in Oceans 8 and Bird Box made a big impact because of her). There is only so much subjectivity you can apply to being a "movie star". |
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Post by speeders on Feb 21, 2021 17:40:27 GMT
Leonardo DiCaprio is rightfully at #1. The biggest omissions are Sandra Bullock and Ryan Gosling. I would also put Margot Robbie over a lot of the names here. Hell, I'd even call Anna Kendrick and Rebel Wilson a bigger draw than many of these names. As others have pointed out Tessa Thompson (she's hot but barely a draw and to consider her a bigger star than Damon, Adams, Evans, Hathaway, Robbie, Gosling, Bullock! ) |
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 21, 2021 17:54:11 GMT
Leonardo DiCaprio is rightfully at #1. The biggest omissions are Sandra Bullock and Ryan Gosling. I would also put Margot Robbie over a lot of the names here. Hell, I'd even call Anna Kendrick and Rebel Wilson a bigger draw than many of these names. As others have pointed out Tessa Thompson (she's hot but barely a draw and to consider her a bigger star than Damon, Adams, Evans, Hathaway, Robbie, Gosling, Bullock! ) I know people rate Gosling more as an actor here, but Hugh Jackman is a much bigger and more beloved movie star than him (Gosling is more a guy that keeps getting opportunities because he is an awards favorite, but has relatively limited audience appeal). Jackman pretty much made The Greatest Showman the most beloved and popular movie musical of the last 5 years, if the not the last decade. |
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Post by speeders on Feb 21, 2021 18:38:05 GMT
Leonardo DiCaprio is rightfully at #1. The biggest omissions are Sandra Bullock and Ryan Gosling. I would also put Margot Robbie over a lot of the names here. Hell, I'd even call Anna Kendrick and Rebel Wilson a bigger draw than many of these names. As others have pointed out Tessa Thompson (she's hot but barely a draw and to consider her a bigger star than Damon, Adams, Evans, Hathaway, Robbie, Gosling, Bullock! ) I know people rate Gosling more as an actor here, but Hugh Jackman is a much bigger and more beloved movie star than him (Gosling is more a guy that keeps getting opportunities because he is an awards favorite, but has relatively limited audience appeal). Jackman pretty much made The Greatest Showman the most beloved and popular movie musical of the last 5 years, if the not the last decade. I admit I totally forgot Hugh Jackman! I agree that Jackman has more appeal, but both should've made this list. |
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Post by countjohn on Feb 27, 2021 18:34:34 GMT
Gosling has two big hits in The Notebook and La La Land which were because audiences really responded to the movies. He's gotten a million chances for star vehicles built around his name before and after, nearly all of which have flopped.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Feb 28, 2021 2:57:10 GMT
Gosling has two big hits in The Notebook and La La Land which were because audiences really responded to the movies. He's gotten a million chances for star vehicles built around his name before and after, nearly all of which have flopped. BR2049 and First Man weren’t “flops”. Crazy, Stupid, Love was also a huge success, and while it’s an ensemble film he was a very big part of the marketing. He mostly has don’t indie stuff outside of that. Ides of March and unfortunately The Nice Guys were commercial flops for him. |
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. We are supposed to believe they are "movie stars" and Hugh Jackman is less of a "movie star" than them 
(I'm half serious). Who pre-pandemic was basically one of the last five remaining theatrical draws we had, everything that dude has done from 2013 and on has been nearly box office gold. To make a January dump like The Upside gross over 100m is extremely impressive. Surely they had to have considered him?!
