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Post by quetee on Feb 9, 2021 16:10:33 GMT
Nobody talks about Spotlight at least The Big Short is relevant. Not sure where you're getting this from given that Spotlight currently has considerably more votes than The Big Short on IMDb and the difference of votes between them on Letterboxd is not huge. Spotlight isn't much discussed about but is well-respected while TBS is considerably more divisive and thus more prone to spark debates. The Big Short is being talked about and watched because of what is going on in the market. It as well as The Wolf of Wall Street hit one/two as the most streamed movies at the Apple Store. That's where I am getting that from. People are watching it again that is why I said it is still relevant. It's popularity has also gone up at IMDB. As for it being divisive, well I think that has to do with the fact that a lot of people don't understand the jargon even though Mckay tried to water it down.
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Post by Miles Morales on Feb 9, 2021 17:09:39 GMT
Not sure where you're getting this from given that Spotlight currently has considerably more votes than The Big Short on IMDb and the difference of votes between them on Letterboxd is not huge. Spotlight isn't much discussed about but is well-respected while TBS is considerably more divisive and thus more prone to spark debates. The Big Short is being talked about and watched because of what is going on in the market. It as well as The Wolf of Wall Street hit one/two as the most streamed movies at the Apple Store. That's where I am getting that from. People are watching it again that is why I said it is still relevant. It's popularity has also gone up at IMDB. As for it being divisive, well I think that has to do with the fact that a lot of people don't understand the jargon even though Mckay tried to water it down. That is true, yeah. Can't argue with that. Also, regarding the second paragraph, a lot of people were rather turned off by its rather aggressive tone and condescension, which is why it's rather divisive on Film Twitter and Letterboxd.
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Post by michael128 on Feb 9, 2021 21:26:55 GMT
I think it’s a little premature to drop BiK, but I understand the choice.
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Post by dadsburgers on Feb 9, 2021 22:00:02 GMT
What's the argument for Judas & the Messiah, since other awards still seem to only be recognizing Kaluuya? Shouldn't its surge have manifested by this point?
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Post by stephen on Feb 9, 2021 22:00:14 GMT
I think it’s a little premature to drop BiK, but I understand the choice. When it gets 15 nominations and sweeps the night, we'll all know you never lost the faith.
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Post by quetee on Feb 9, 2021 22:07:08 GMT
I think it’s a little premature to drop BiK, but I understand the choice. Disney isn't submitting it so it can't get nominated even if the Beehive wills it.
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Post by michael128 on Feb 9, 2021 23:18:32 GMT
I think it’s a little premature to drop BiK, but I understand the choice. Disney isn't submitting it so it can't get nominated even if the Beehive wills it. Source?? This is disturbing and I’m thinking this is somehow racial
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Post by michael128 on Feb 11, 2021 20:00:17 GMT
I have spoken with my sources and I am now locking in Promising Young Woman.
The 4 acting categories and best picture have been decided.
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Post by mhynson27 on Feb 12, 2021 0:19:44 GMT
I have spoken with my sources and I am now locking in Promising Young Woman. The 4 acting categories and best picture have been decided. Yet there's still a vote for The Prom.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Feb 12, 2021 16:18:12 GMT
I don’t think it’s winning but I think Judas and the Black Messiah is going to do better than it’s precursors so far indicate. I think there is going to be a lot of talk about it at the right time.
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Post by mhynson27 on Feb 13, 2021 0:10:53 GMT
I don’t think it’s winning but I think Judas and the Black Messiah is going to do better than it’s precursors so far indicate. I think there is going to be a lot of talk about it at the right time. WB has had multiple successes with late releases in the past. Let's see if they can do it again!
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Post by quetee on Feb 13, 2021 23:42:31 GMT
I have spoken with my sources and I am now locking in Promising Young Woman. The 4 acting categories and best picture have been decided. That one will score at least 3 nods.
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Post by quetee on Feb 19, 2021 22:55:09 GMT
Half-way mark.
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Post by mrimpossible on Feb 19, 2021 23:34:20 GMT
I'm surprised Nomadland is so far ahead in the poll. To me it feels like another Roma. Very respected and all but unable to connect to the entire industry to win Best Picture. I think Trial of the Chicago 7 wins it.
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Post by quetee on Feb 20, 2021 20:40:15 GMT
Now that Nomadland has been released, what do you guys think? I'm going to try to watch it tomorrow.
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Post by stephen on Feb 20, 2021 20:42:44 GMT
Now that Nomadland has been released, what do you guys think? I'm going to try to watch it tomorrow. Nothing has changed.
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Post by morton on Feb 20, 2021 21:12:18 GMT
Now that Nomadland has been released, what do you guys think? I'm going to try to watch it tomorrow. This is just anecdotal, but there’s only been a few “non kids or blockbuster” movies since the lockdown that I’ve seen promoted really heavily, or at least that I’ve seen promoted heavily, and Nomadland has been one of them along with Promising Young Woman, Let Him Go, and a few others. I don’t know if the regular movie goer will still even be aware, but in comparison to promotion by Netflix, I feel like it helps so that people don’t forget about it after the first weekend like I feel happens with Netflix where they promote something until the next weekend when the next big thing premieres. Like I don’t think I saw anything at all for Pieces of a Woman beyond the actors promoting it same with some of Netflix other properties. There was some promotion for their bigger films, but even then I feel they did more in other years. Maybe it’s because of the pandemic and not having traditional film festivals, but I feel like their other fare like their documentaries have got a lot more promotion than their films this past year. Even with Apple TV+, I feel like I saw there’s been a ton of promotion for Palmer. It’s almost the same with HBO Max and Judas and the Black Messiah. Obviously they’re trying to get new viewers since they’re new services, so all of the promotion makes sense in that way, but I still feel Netflix’s release schedule might work against them in BP. It’s great that they’re making The Trial of the Chicago 7 free to watch, but the only place I saw anything about that was online nothing on television or radio about it.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Feb 20, 2021 21:12:44 GMT
Now that Nomadland has been released, what do you guys think? I'm going to try to watch it tomorrow. Nothing has changed. Yep, still doesn’t seem likely to win BP.
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Post by michael128 on Feb 20, 2021 21:16:01 GMT
Promising Young Woman or Minari (though I haven't seen Minari yet so it's just a hunch).
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Post by flasuss on Feb 20, 2021 21:25:24 GMT
I'm surprised Nomadland is so far ahead in the poll. To me it feels like another Roma. Very respected and all but unable to connect to the entire industry to win Best Picture. I think Trial of the Chicago 7 wins it. If Roma was running against Green Book this year, they would have won it. What did Roma in was heavy Netflix backlash led by Spielberg and other old people in the Academy screaming at the clouds (though of course, if Roma wasn't released by Netflix, it probably wouldn't have have been so watched, since a lot of people wouldn't have bothered to go to theaters) which made them run to the more traditional, released in the cinemas normally movie. However, in a year with a global pandemic, that's a moot point.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Feb 20, 2021 21:33:03 GMT
I'm surprised Nomadland is so far ahead in the poll. To me it feels like another Roma. Very respected and all but unable to connect to the entire industry to win Best Picture. I think Trial of the Chicago 7 wins it. If Roma was running against Green Book this year, they would have won it. What did Roma in was heavy Netflix backlash led by Spielberg and other old people in the Academy screaming at the clouds (though of course, if Roma wasn't released by Netflix, it probably wouldn't have have been so watched, since a lot of people wouldn't have bothered to go to theaters) which made them run to the more traditional, released in the cinemas normally movie. However, in a year with a global pandemic, that's a moot point.
Roma would not win this year either and it’s loss had nothing to do with it being a Netflix release.
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Post by stephen on Feb 20, 2021 21:35:11 GMT
If Roma was running against Green Book this year, they would have won it. What did Roma in was heavy Netflix backlash led by Spielberg and other old people in the Academy screaming at the clouds (though of course, if Roma wasn't released by Netflix, it probably wouldn't have have been so watched, since a lot of people wouldn't have bothered to go to theaters) which made them run to the more traditional, released in the cinemas normally movie. However, in a year with a global pandemic, that's a moot point.
Roma would not win this year either and it’s loss had nothing to do with it being a Netflix release. Agreed. Roma was far too austere and clinical for the average Academy voter, and it had the hurdle of being a foreign-language film with unknown actors. Nomadland is untraditional but still far more mainstream than Roma.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Feb 20, 2021 21:36:56 GMT
Roma would not win this year either and it’s loss had nothing to do with it being a Netflix release. Agreed. Roma was far too austere and clinical for the average Academy voter, and it had the hurdle of being a foreign-language film with unknown actors. Nomadland is untraditional but still far more mainstream than Roma. Yeah, while I still don’t currently think Nomadland is going to win it’s definitely far more accessible and certainly has a much closer chance to pull off a victory.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 21, 2021 0:38:21 GMT
everyone's saying Nomadland but that doesn't *feel* like a winner to me. It's so sparse and meandering and McDormand so understated. It has no likeness to any BP winners from the last 40 years that I can come up with at first blush. Now, a lot of people are loving it so clearly I'm just not seeing what others are seeing, but the same thing happened two years ago with Roma and that came up short too, and I was predicting it for the reasons people are predicting Nomadland now.
for the moment, I think it's going to be between Mank (which is being crazy undervalued rn) and Trial of the Chicago 7 but I'm leaning the latter for now for the "relevance". We had our arthouse winne last year, now it's time for a Green Book winner.
We'll have to wait and see how many noms Judas and the Black Messiah gets but I think it'll do very well. Don't think it will build enough momentum to overtake the others but it's going to be in the top 5.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 21, 2021 0:46:02 GMT
don't agree with the takes that Nomadland is more accessible than Roma. To me they're fairly unaccessible for a lot of the same reasons. Both have sparse, meandering narratives and understated performances. They both keep you at an arm's length from the protagonists' inner lives. Visually striking but emotionally and dramatically underwhelming.
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