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Post by michael128 on Jan 21, 2021 3:30:06 GMT
Why have no Asian women ever been in “legit contention”? Whatever that term I’m hearing for the first time today means Flassus already mentioned it, they've had far less opportunities. But this is a pointless conversation anyway, we're just going around in circles. No, no. Seems fairly rectangular to me. So why have “they” had “far less opportunities”? |
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 21, 2021 3:46:37 GMT
Flassus already mentioned it, they've had far less opportunities. But this is a pointless conversation anyway, we're just going around in circles. No, no. Seems fairly rectangular to me. So why have “they” had “far less opportunities”? I don't know, maybe it's these little known things called 'racism' and 'sexism' within the industry, and our larger society as a whole. Maybe you've heard of them? |
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 21, 2021 3:47:46 GMT
Has there ever even been an Asian female director in legit contention, until now? This goes way beyond her category. Even in actress and supporting actress categories, Asian women almost never get nominated, let alone win. On wikipedia the only Asian best actress nominees are Natalie Portman, because Israel is in Asia, and Merle Oberon who was part Indian. The last time an actual Asian woman was nominated in any acting category was Rinko Kikuchi. This is what I mean when I say we are just going around in circles. As Stephen already said, stats and trends are made to be broken, happens every year. And once again, Zhao is an entirely different case. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 21, 2021 5:40:58 GMT
Zhang Ziyi is kind of the modern face of Asian women being snubbed by the Oscars. She got both Globe and BAFTA noms for Memoirs of a Geisha and the film landed six nods at the Oscars but none were for Ziyi. She was also snubbed for Crouching Tiger after landing a BAFTA nod, and that was another film loaded with Oscar nominations. Also for House of Flying Daggers, another BAFTA darling.
Parasite further complicates the narrative. Adored by voters and propelled to a ceiling-shattering BP win but not a single acting nom for the Asian cast (Song and Cho had more than enough hype), and of course the Farewell snubs for Awkwafina (after she won the Globe) and Shuzhen look bad too, in the exact same year. The Academy has had *several* opportunities over the years to nominate Asian actresses and they've failed every single time to the point that it's an unmistakable trend.
That has nothing to do with Zhao though. She's getting that nomination. Youn I'm less sure about.
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Post by flasuss on Jan 21, 2021 11:38:29 GMT
Has there ever even been an Asian female director in legit contention, until now? This goes way beyond her category. Even in actress and supporting actress categories, Asian women almost never get nominated, let alone win. On wikipedia the only Asian best actress nominees are Natalie Portman, because Israel is in Asia, and Merle Oberon who was part Indian. The last time an actual Asian woman was nominated in any acting category was Rinko Kikuchi. Vivien Leigh was also born in India- hell, if you're going to count actors born in British colonies, then that number will certainly increase a lot.
Anyway, the point is the same- there are much less roles for Asian women in US (or British films), and actors in foreign language movies are rarely nominated anyway, regardless of ethnicity, so to blame Oscar voters for not nominating them for performances that weren't there is non-sense.
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