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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 1:28:29 GMT
Which of these decadent literary adaptations starring Michelle Pfeiffer do you prefer?
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Post by bob-coppola on Jan 19, 2021 1:31:23 GMT
The Age of Innocence rules and is top-tier Scorsese, but Dangerous Liaisons is just another level. I love this kind of deliciously wicked movies - and Glenn Close changed the game here.
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Post by futuretrunks on Jan 19, 2021 1:35:29 GMT
I think both are really overrated and pale in comparison to something like Polanski's absurdly masterful Tess (I find Barry Lyndon also vastly inferior), but I'll vote DL. I'll take Marie Antoinette over Scorsese's TAOI and Frears' DL.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jan 19, 2021 1:36:11 GMT
I find The Age of Innocence incredibly dull so Dangerous Liaisons wins by default.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 19, 2021 1:36:57 GMT
Dangerous Liasons, and it's not close. Close and Malkovich are on a different level to all the performances in The Age Of Innocence as well.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 19, 2021 1:39:55 GMT
The Age of Innocence rules and is top-tier Scorsese, but Dangerous Liaisons is just another level. I love this kind of deliciously wicked movies - and Glenn Close changed the game here. This
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 1:50:12 GMT
I think both are really overrated and pale in comparison to something like Polanski's absurdly masterful Tess (I find Barry Lyndon also vastly inferior), but I'll vote DL. I'll take Marie Antoinette over Scorsese's TAOI and Frears' DL. Barry Lyndon, Tess, Dangerous Liaisons, and Marie Antoinette are all 10/10s for me.
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Post by franklin on Jan 19, 2021 2:14:23 GMT
The Age of Innocence. Perfect film.
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Post by bob-coppola on Jan 19, 2021 3:09:29 GMT
I think both are really overrated and pale in comparison to something like Polanski's absurdly masterful Tess (I find Barry Lyndon also vastly inferior), but I'll vote DL. I'll take Marie Antoinette over Scorsese's TAOI and Frears' DL. Barry Lyndon, Tess, Dangerous Liaisons, and Marie Antoinette are all 10/10s for me. Throw The Favourite in the mix and you have a list of the best period pictures ever.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 19, 2021 6:31:27 GMT
The Age of Innocence. I don't much like DL.
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Post by JangoB on Jan 19, 2021 12:22:05 GMT
Dangerous Liaisons is excellent but The Age of Innocence is a masterpiece.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 16:35:37 GMT
Barry Lyndon, Tess, Dangerous Liaisons, and Marie Antoinette are all 10/10s for me. Throw The Favourite in the mix and you have a list of the best period pictures ever. Hm... I would definitely include Amadeus before The Favourite (though I do like it - my favorite film of 2018!). LaraQ sirjeremy Mattsby pacinoyes MsMovieStar ibbi Viced - Definitely curious as to what all of y'all voted for!
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 20, 2021 17:42:34 GMT
Throw The Favourite in the mix and you have a list of the best period pictures ever. Hm... I would definitely include Amadeus before The Favourite (though I do like it - my favorite film of 2018!). LaraQ sirjeremy Mattsby pacinoyes MsMovieStar ibbi Viced - Definitely curious as to what all of y'all voted for! I'm not a big believer in the genteel Scorsese though there's not much of his work that I don't like. I've read many people on MAR saying Age of Innocence is a "masterpiece" but they've never convinced me of that (at all), it's just a good movie with good performances. Not only that, it wasn't even the best movie of its type (in a way) that year ( The Remains of the Day is a better movie, more affecting, better acted, written and directed, the Oscars got that all right which they almost never do ). Dangerous Liasons is a perfect "happy accident" movie - where the director, writer, cast - the projects whole vision - all aide each other even when in theory it even seems wrong in conception. Especially the casting of all Americans among the leads - they all work with AND against the material in some way - but in Malkovich's case especially - where he seems far too modern, rough and out of place and yet that makes him more vivid. I talked once about how Malkovich pulls a great acting move that hints at Close "stumbling" in her last scene in his earlier scene after he walks out on Pfeiffer and has to steady himself linking the two characters and their behavior and the physical loss of balance with a moral lack of balance. I love that stuff - and I've often talked about how Malkovich is one of the few American actors who can play "self-loathing" at all - more than just play it, he's a master of that. It's his forte.
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Post by Mattsby on Jan 20, 2021 18:28:58 GMT
Throw The Favourite in the mix and you have a list of the best period pictures ever. Hm... I would definitely include Amadeus before The Favourite (though I do like it - my favorite film of 2018!). LaraQ sirjeremy Mattsby pacinoyes MsMovieStar ibbi Viced - Definitely curious as to what all of y'all voted for! Tbh I probably rate Liaisons higher, but I prefer Innocence - I love the Pfeiffer/Winona perfs, Ballhaus' lushness, the quiet ending. Critics often, or at least used to, talk about Scorsese as if he hadn't made the movie - very sensual, romantic, feminine. Its 1870s is fascinating in how it is limiting, lives defined by dinner invitations, gossip. Characters afraid of their own thoughts, practically - or hiding their pleasure - like when Winona tells DDL she's pregnant, an aching, sadly, very gently played scene.
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Post by sirjeremy on Jan 20, 2021 19:05:23 GMT
Dangerous Liaisons, mainly because of the superb performance from Close. Nobody in The Age of Innocence reaches her level.
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Post by LaraQ on Jan 20, 2021 21:30:58 GMT
I think both are really overrated and pale in comparison to something like Polanski's absurdly masterful Tess (I find Barry Lyndon also vastly inferior), but I'll vote DL. I'll take Marie Antoinette over Scorsese's TAOI and Frears' DL. Barry Lyndon, Tess, Dangerous Liaisons, and Marie Antoinette are all 10/10s for me. Dangerous Liaisons.I loathe The Age of Innocence.It's beautiful but totally inert.
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Post by hugobolso on Jan 21, 2021 13:37:01 GMT
Two very different movies, one is a farse, the other a sociological study movie, but AOI is totally different to every Hollywood movie I've see DL is wonderful and sexy, Michelle is much better there, Close is superb, but it's a little campy.- So I choose for originality AOI.- Joan Woodard voice is one of the best narrator ever.-
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 18:34:23 GMT
Dangerous Liaisons, mainly because of the superb performance from Close. Nobody in The Age of Innocence reaches her level. Agreed. I rewatched The Age of Innocence maybe a couple of years ago and still found it extremely difficult get emotionally invested in the story and the characters, despite some strong performances (Pfeiffer, Margolyes) and art direction.
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Post by cheesecake on Jan 27, 2021 20:20:35 GMT
Dangerous Liaisons, for sure.
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Post by hugobolso on Jan 28, 2021 17:24:48 GMT
Dangerous Liaisons, mainly because of the superb performance from Close. Nobody in The Age of Innocence reaches her level. Agreed. I rewatched The Age of Innocence maybe a couple of years ago and still found it extremely difficult get emotionally invested in the story and the characters, despite some strong performances (Pfeiffer, Margolyes) and art direction. Itsn't an easy film to watch, maybe you are too young, and need a rewatch in a couple of years.- I was surprised that made lot of money at the box office. A film like TAOI, before covid, should not earn more than 15 millions at US Box Office.-
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