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Post by flasuss on Feb 19, 2021 15:17:41 GMT
Every TV show now should have a villain song at the end of it's episodes, otherwise they're all pointless. Think of how Ozark or Perry Mason would be better Kathryn Hahn appeared singing a villain song at the end.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 19, 2021 17:55:28 GMT
There seems to be a lot of online chatter that Pacino may be playing "Mephisto" on this show or something.......tbh I don't really get it and I haven't watched but if you do a search on Pacino/Mephisto this seems to be a fan theory tied into his having been......... SatanKind of amusing but not really sure I want to see this - I mean, I'm old, I just want King Lear - but it seems to excite people.........I dunno..... Really seems to be more chatter heating up about this I guess as it gets closer to the last episode (still haven't watched it at all)........here's a Vanity Fair article from today that plays a guessing game on the "secret character" and who might play it .............and social media seems to either have some insight or is just repeating the same old thing anyway.........lots of chatter about this stuff. www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/02/wandavision-episode-7-who-is-agatha-harkness-agnes-kathryn-hahn-al-pacino-nightmare-mephisto
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Post by cheesecake on Feb 20, 2021 0:36:47 GMT
The Kathryn Hahn reveal in Episode 7 was fantastic, and she was hilarious in it. Her new theme song is so damn catchy too. Loved that song. It's a bop.
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Post by Sharbs on Feb 20, 2021 2:13:15 GMT
Was literally mentioning today how awesome if Wanda was coincidentally creating a town of mutants and how Kathryn Hahn would become a mainstay, but this is even better
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Feb 20, 2021 3:06:28 GMT
The Kathryn Hahn reveal in Episode 7 was fantastic, and she was hilarious in it. "I actually did bite a kid once."
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Post by CookiesNCream on Feb 20, 2021 6:43:30 GMT
The Kathryn Hahn reveal in Episode 7 was fantastic, and she was hilarious in it. Her new theme song is so damn catchy too. Yep! 🎵 It was Agatha All Along! 🎶
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Feb 21, 2021 21:09:30 GMT
I guess there's more to it than "It's all Wanda.” And it’s brilliant. I love this fucking show
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Post by Pavan on Feb 26, 2021 11:10:30 GMT
8th episode. Totally intense and riveting stuff. Some of the best the MCU has served till date. Lots of background stuff and a couple of revelations. Visuals in this episode were stunning. Elizabeth Olsen deserves an Emmy nom for her performance. Can't wait for the season finale.
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Post by Pavan on Feb 26, 2021 11:20:49 GMT
Something I wrote last week: "Was into it after the first two episodes and thought episode three was mostly solid, the ending of that felt to me like it's headed towards a much more typically big universe MCU-type thing than the relatively contained, weirder path I was hoping (but not expecting)." And yup, episode four went the big universe MCU route and even with this universe's generic government agency shit explaining everything that was either already heavily hinted from the show or a simple Google search so people could get the S.W.O.R.D. necklace Easter egg. This was a secure time for the MCU to take bigger risks with the Endgame victory lap and with the premise tapping into Wanda's potential and they couldn't go a solid month without spoon-feeding us again. Caught up over the past few days... and these are close to my thoughts exactly. I kind of loved the first two episodes... which were probably the most unique thing the MCU has done by far. Strangely authentic sitcom throwbacks that had just enough "something isn't right here" touches to keep me interested. The third episode I don't even remember tbh, but once they went full SWORD and more basic bitch stale MCU territory in episode 4 I was ready to check out. Total zone-out worthy stuff. But I kept watching since I knew the Malcolm in the Middle episode was coming... but outside of the opening credits and kid talking to the camera, there was hardly anything Malcolm-ish about it. Then it won me back over with the really well done Modern Family-esque episode. The way it was shot, Olsen's Julie Bowen impression, the interviews ("you're not supposed to talk" )... and then the amazing Agnes reveal at the end. Would be nice if Pacino showed up before it's over... the great James Spader is also rumored to possibly be playing a human version of Ultron or something too. Your wish might just come true.
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Post by Sharbs on Feb 28, 2021 15:59:00 GMT
How do you squander the previous reveal like that. TERRIBLE episode
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Post by JC/MC on Feb 28, 2021 20:11:28 GMT
Olsen should be a nominee at tonight’s Globes. Such a beautiful performance throughout this series.
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Post by Pavan on Mar 1, 2021 5:45:24 GMT
Olsen should be a nominee at tonight’s Globes. Such a beautiful performance throughout this series. Next year, i guess.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 4, 2021 17:02:12 GMT
Could be a diversionary tactic (ie there may still be a big cameo from a famous actor), but apparently Bettany was trolling when he was talking about doing scenes with this actor he's always wanted to work with. He says he was talking about himself, as he'll be playing another version of Vision in the finale and acting against himself.
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Post by Pavan on Mar 5, 2021 10:30:58 GMT
Marvel took all the fan theories and threw them into the bin lol. Pretty straight forward finale this. I did like the big reveal. Elizabeth Olsen looks bomb in the new costume. I hope we see her more in this costume in the future. She was really good performance wise. Hope gets some love at Globes and Emmys next year.
The last few min were emotional. Putting a witch and synthezoid together and churning this amount of emotional quotient, good job Marvel. There are two post credit scenes. The second one was wow.
Happy book reading Wanda. See you soon.
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Post by thomasjerome on Mar 5, 2021 12:18:49 GMT
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 5, 2021 16:19:35 GMT
So the "big star cameo/maybe Pacino as Mephisto" stuff turned out to be bullshit.
Good finale though.
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Post by jakob on Mar 5, 2021 16:32:35 GMT
Mixed positive feelings about the finale. Most of it was fitting. Don't love how silly Agatha’s look gets in these last few episodes. I found the Evan Peters reveal to be legit awful. White Vision was wasted as I expected him to be. “They’ll never know what you did for them” is BS. But Wanda’s character arc was done well, had emotion, and the big sequences were impressive.
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Post by flasuss on Mar 5, 2021 18:52:54 GMT
I have mixed feelings about the finale. The idea we're supposed to feel sorry for Wanda despite the fact she essentially enslaved an entire town is pure non-sense and even offensive. That said, I liked Wanda's overall arc, as well as Vision using pure logic to "win" the fight against the other one.
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Post by Pavan on Mar 5, 2021 19:39:47 GMT
I have mixed feelings about the finale. The idea we're supposed to feel sorry for Wanda despite the fact she essentially enslaved an entire town is pure non-sense and even offensive. That said, I liked Wanda's overall arc, as well as Vision using pure logic to "win" the fight against the other one. She is powerful but not mentally strong. Lost all the loved ones in her life. She didn't do it on purpose and she is still learning about herself in the path to become a hero. She realized what she did was wrong and released them all.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 5, 2021 20:29:45 GMT
I have mixed feelings about the finale. The idea we're supposed to feel sorry for Wanda despite the fact she essentially enslaved an entire town is pure non-sense and even offensive. That said, I liked Wanda's overall arc, as well as Vision using pure logic to "win" the fight against the other one. I agree. Wanda is a villain. They let her off the hook too easily. The way Monica was like "I'd do the same thing to get my mom back, babe!", I was like....what the hell are you talking about. She mentally enslaved and spiritually raped an entire town of people. I feel like in the real world, Hayward would have gotten a promotion for trying so hard to take out Wanda, not get arrested in the end.
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Post by flasuss on Mar 5, 2021 21:00:55 GMT
I have mixed feelings about the finale. The idea we're supposed to feel sorry for Wanda despite the fact she essentially enslaved an entire town is pure non-sense and even offensive. That said, I liked Wanda's overall arc, as well as Vision using pure logic to "win" the fight against the other one. I agree. Wanda is a villain. They let her off the hook too easily. The way Monica was like "I'd do the same thing to get my mom back, babe!", I was like....what the hell are you talking about. She mentally enslaved and spiritually raped an entire town of people. I feel like in the real world, Hayward would have gotten a promotion for trying so hard to take out Wanda, not get arrested in the end. Ironically, in the story that was a clear inspiration for this in the comics, Wanda did even worse (it affected the entire world, mutants were depowered, and many died), and Marvel pretty much tried to make her a victim as well. Even the heroes that treated her harshly or tried to get her punished were clearly depicted as the bad guys.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Mar 6, 2021 0:08:13 GMT
I have mixed feelings about the finale. The idea we're supposed to feel sorry for Wanda despite the fact she essentially enslaved an entire town is pure non-sense and even offensive. That said, I liked Wanda's overall arc, as well as Vision using pure logic to "win" the fight against the other one. She is powerful but not mentally strong. Lost all the loved ones in her life. She didn't do it on purpose and she is still learning about herself in the path to become a hero. She realized what she did was wrong and released them all. She knew for almost the entire show what she was doing and that it was wrong, but wanted to skirt the entire issue. And grief is not an excuse to terrorize people, nobody would be on the side of someone kidnapping a family because they lost their own.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Mar 6, 2021 4:13:25 GMT
Lmao at people getting all hyped over Pacino possibly making an appearance only for it to be complete BS. Overall, the finale was a bit of a disappointment. It wants to have its cake and eat it too by thematically setting up the story to be about Wanda processing her grief, and learning that she has to move on and accept her loss... but then it basically promises that Vision will return, plus the credits scene seems to tease that her kids aren’t really gone either. So in typical Marvel fashion, it just functions as a puzzle-box set-up for a future “episode” of the Marvel machine instead of committing to any kind of real emotional closure. It probably sounds naïve to expect anything else from Marvel at this point, but I feel like this is a case where it’s bothered me more than usual. Highlight of the episode was the ontological discussion between Vision and White Vision.
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Post by Pavan on Mar 6, 2021 6:52:26 GMT
She is powerful but not mentally strong. Lost all the loved ones in her life. She didn't do it on purpose and she is still learning about herself in the path to become a hero. She realized what she did was wrong and released them all. She knew for almost the entire show what she was doing and that it was wrong, but wanted to skirt the entire issue. And grief is not an excuse to terrorize people, nobody would be on the side of someone kidnapping a family because they lost their own. What she did was wrong but her love for vision and grief overcame the morality factor here. She looked at all townsfolk and the miserable lives they were leading and thought she was giving a better something for them. Someone like Steve Rogers would never do that even if he has that much power.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Mar 6, 2021 13:52:04 GMT
She knew for almost the entire show what she was doing and that it was wrong, but wanted to skirt the entire issue. And grief is not an excuse to terrorize people, nobody would be on the side of someone kidnapping a family because they lost their own. What she did was wrong but her love for vision and grief overcame the morality factor here. She looked at all townsfolk and the miserable lives they were leading and thought she was giving a better something for them. Someone like Steve Rogers would never do that even if he has that much power. Which is why it's a bit off-putting that the show lets her off the hook, even going so far as having Monica essentially go "I'd also hold an entire town hostage if my grief were combined with mind-altering powers, these people should be grateful you didn't work them like a puppet longer."
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