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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 21, 2020 7:12:38 GMT
Hmm... Margaret Qualley looking to end her career early, I see. Wonder how soon it'll be before her mother and agents/publicists warn her that being with Labeouf right now is probably radioactive. It makes her look like a woman who doesn't support other women or care about their pain. This will hurt her (unless she decides to throw Shia under the bus later as well, which is always an option).Bad PR move. Shia's crazy and a huge disappointment to me, but I'm not sure about all that. Look at Chris Brown. He's had some incidents post-Rihanna assault, but nothing nearly as crazy, and he's maintained his career. Shia isn't nearly as popular as Brown, but if he somehow treats Qualley decently, this thing of him treading water in the industry could go on indefinitely. It's so much easier (and cheaper) to make and distribute music than it is to do for film though. Which helps explains Chris Brown's survival (his incident was also Pre #MeToo. Tolerance for sexual or physical abuse of women in the entertainment industry is far lower than it used to be. When is the last time we heard from James Franco after his #MeToo, and that dude used to be everywhere). There are too many moving parts in film. Too many film companies who don't need the headache of a potential boycott or negative publicity of their film because of his involvement (hence Netflix's current scrubbing job). Too many potential collaborators who don't want to take the chance of being associated with an abuser of women as it will hurt their own standing (even Labeouf's Honey Boy director came out against him to support the women he's abused or been accused of absusing. And Netflix took down Labeouf from their FYC awards page for Pieces Of A Woman). Like I said, he can probably tread water on a low level for awhile, that includes funding or self-funding his own projects, but if someone who used to be as booked and busy as James Franco is suddenly not booking much work, Shia, whose case is probably a lot more serious and severe than his, is almost certainly in major trouble career wise.
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Post by jakesully on Dec 21, 2020 14:28:27 GMT
Hmm... Margaret Qualley looking to end her career early, I see. Wonder how soon it'll be before her mother and agents/publicists warn her that being with Labeouf right now is probably radioactive. It makes her look like a woman who doesn't support other women or care about their pain. This will hurt her (unless she decides to throw Shia under the bus later as well, which is always an option).Bad PR move. Come get your daughter Andie MacDowell! But seriously, this is not a good look at all. smh
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Post by jakesully on Dec 21, 2020 14:34:38 GMT
Shia's crazy and a huge disappointment to me, but I'm not sure about all that. Look at Chris Brown. He's had some incidents post-Rihanna assault, but nothing nearly as crazy, and he's maintained his career. Shia isn't nearly as popular as Brown, but if he somehow treats Qualley decently, this thing of him treading water in the industry could go on indefinitely. It's so much easier (and cheaper) to make and distribute music than it is to do for film though. Which helps explains Chris Brown's survival (his incident was also Pre #MeToo. Tolerance for sexual or physical abuse of women in the entertainment industry is far lower than it used to be. When is the last time we heard from James Franco after his #MeToo, and that dude used to be everywhere). There are too many moving parts in film. Too many film companies who don't need the headache of a potential boycott or negative publicity of their film because of his involvement (hence Netflix's current scrubbing job). Too many potential collaborators who don't want to take the chance of being associated with an abuser of women as it will hurt their own standing (even Labeouf's Honey Boy director came out against him to support the women he's abused or been accused of absusing. And Netflix took down Labeouf from their FYC awards page for Pieces Of A Woman). Like I said, he can probably tread water on a low level for awhile, that includes funding or self-funding his own projects, but if someone who used to be as booked and busy as James Franco is suddenly not booking much work, Shia, whose case is probably a lot more serious and severe than his, is almost certainly in major trouble career wise. Also, good point regarding James Franco. He is such a creep. I remember reading about those "sex scene" classes he taught at NYU I think (featuring teenage girls) . Just an absolute scumbag and I'm glad I 've never been a fan of that creepy asshole. Glad his career has come to a stand still.
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Post by LaraQ on Dec 22, 2020 20:30:06 GMT
I loved Margaret in OUATIH.I was really rooting for her and her career,but I just can't with this shit.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 22, 2020 20:36:41 GMT
I loved Margaret in OUATIH.I was really rooting for her and her career,but I just can't with this shit. Dude is wearing a Dokken shirt.......I mean ........seriously..........he should be punched in the face just for that.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Dec 23, 2020 6:00:06 GMT
It's so much easier (and cheaper) to make and distribute music than it is to do for film though. Which helps explains Chris Brown's survival (his incident was also Pre #MeToo. Tolerance for sexual or physical abuse of women in the entertainment industry is far lower than it used to be. When is the last time we heard from James Franco after his #MeToo, and that dude used to be everywhere). There are too many moving parts in film. Too many film companies who don't need the headache of a potential boycott or negative publicity of their film because of his involvement (hence Netflix's current scrubbing job). Too many potential collaborators who don't want to take the chance of being associated with an abuser of women as it will hurt their own standing (even Labeouf's Honey Boy director came out against him to support the women he's abused or been accused of absusing. And Netflix took down Labeouf from their FYC awards page for Pieces Of A Woman). Like I said, he can probably tread water on a low level for awhile, that includes funding or self-funding his own projects, but if someone who used to be as booked and busy as James Franco is suddenly not booking much work, Shia, whose case is probably a lot more serious and severe than his, is almost certainly in major trouble career wise. Also, good point regarding James Franco. He is such a creep. I remember reading about those "sex scene" classes he taught at NYU I think (featuring teenage girls) . Just an absolute scumbag and I'm glad I 've never been a fan of that creepy asshole. Glad his career has come to a stand still. You're such a gullible dumbass! The case against Franco was BULLSHIT!! 100% pure bullshit. Zero evidence, and one of the accusers was a proven liar. Franco's career has NOT come to a stand still. He'll be back any day now. Watch and see. Slandering punks!
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Post by jakesully on Dec 23, 2020 22:06:45 GMT
Also, good point regarding James Franco. He is such a creep. I remember reading about those "sex scene" classes he taught at NYU I think (featuring teenage girls) . Just an absolute scumbag and I'm glad I 've never been a fan of that creepy asshole. Glad his career has come to a stand still. You're such a gullible dumbass! The case against Franco was BULLSHIT!! 100% pure bullshit. Zero evidence, and one of the accusers was a proven liar. Franco's career has NOT come to a stand still. He'll be back any day now. Watch and see. Slandering punks! www.her.ie/celeb/james-franco-accused-of-trying-to-meet-underage-girl-in-hotel-122159
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 24, 2020 19:40:02 GMT
Goes from bad to worse for Labeouf. Turns out he was fired from Olivia Wilde's new directing effort (and replaced with Harry Styles) because of his poor behavior and clashes with the cast. His departure from the project was originally reported as "scheduling conflicts", but I guess the truth is coming out now because he's no longer protected.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Dec 24, 2020 19:50:15 GMT
Hollywood's "scheduling conflicts" is probably more like saying GG after a game despite your teammates being useless pieces of shit.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Dec 30, 2020 23:58:01 GMT
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Post by TerryMontana on Dec 31, 2020 14:44:09 GMT
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 31, 2020 14:48:12 GMT
Called it. Andie and her "people" want to protect her kid's career above all else. Looks like they are already planning an exit strategy for this relationship. It's questionable if Margaret will actually play along with it though, especially if she is as infatuated with Labeouf as their make-out sessions suggest. But they can always paint Labeouf as an abusive individual who manipulated Margaret into staying with him, if she ever decided to put her career first and ditch him. Hollywood is a brutal business.
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Post by stephen on Dec 31, 2020 14:50:58 GMT
Andie's about to pull a Ready or Not on Shia's ass.
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Post by Drish on Dec 31, 2020 15:08:03 GMT
My god, you should never have kids.
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Post by mhynson27 on Dec 31, 2020 16:06:30 GMT
My god, you should never have kids. ...Who??
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Post by Martin Stett on Dec 31, 2020 16:11:28 GMT
My god, you should never have kids. ...Who?? Ice Truck Dexter and Maria Helena
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Post by Drish on Dec 31, 2020 16:22:34 GMT
My god, you should never have kids. ...Who?? All of us, friend! All of us.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 7, 2021 22:35:06 GMT
LOL! In the least shocking news ever, Margaret Qualley, in full on career protection mode, breaks up with Shia Labeouf
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Post by futuretrunks on Jan 7, 2021 23:33:30 GMT
This dude is just frustrating. A knucklehead who prioritizes attempting to have a "raw", "serious" actor image over actually pulling his weight. It's sad to see, as circa 2007 he was one of the few young actors ambidextrous in comedy/drama that had some starpower.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 8, 2021 15:03:00 GMT
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Post by countjohn on Jan 15, 2021 4:46:57 GMT
My god, you should never have kids. This should have way more than 1 like for so many different reasons.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 6, 2021 15:39:08 GMT
Ice Truck Dexter and Maria Helena Not happening , don't worry I can't stand kids (yup , I just said that ).
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 6, 2021 15:40:36 GMT
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Post by countjohn on Feb 7, 2021 5:40:46 GMT
IDK, lots of talented people are assholes. It would be one thing if it was just people with violent or sexually abusive behavior but this sounds like it's excluding anyone who's conventionally unpleasant on a personality level, which is very limiting.
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 7, 2021 5:51:17 GMT
IDK, lots of talented people are assholes. It would be one thing if it was just people with violent or sexually abusive behavior but this sounds like it's excluding anyone who's conventionally unpleasant on a personality level, which is very limiting. I dunno...if you are a director, and it's your set, then I think it's a reasonable choice not to hire people you think will be genuinely unpleasant to work with on a personality level. Movie shoots are long. Ideally you want to spend them with people you get along with. This is an unspoken thing in most jobs. You can be highly qualified, but if the person hiring you believes you are an asshole at the interview stage, you probably are not getting the job. This is why people tend to hide asshole-ish personality traits and be on their best and most charming behavior at interviews, till they believe they are in a secure position and can't be fired. It's a grey area in entertainment, because "stars" are bankable commodities that people are willing to make exception for because they will get things made, seen or financed by their very presence. But there is no policy in the world that says you need to hire with an asshole if you don't want to. There are other qualified people to look at who aren't assholes. Lots of talented people are assholes (especially in the movie industry) because they are indulged and allowed to get away with it. If there were more consequences for being an asshole in work situations, you'd get more people modifying their behavior, and less assholes. There are plenty of directors willing to put up with talented assholes, but that should be their choice as the person doing the hiring.
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