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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 28, 2020 10:26:59 GMT
Born 46 years ago today October 28th, 1974 Winner of our most recent Best Actor Oscar so arguably at his "peak" right now and the highest ranking "peak" actor in our GOAT poll (see below) which was before his win. But there are plenty of critics of his Joker performance too and people who will tell you he peaked a little earlier in the 2010s (he was our actor of the 2010s also) and that where he is now is less than where he "was" (ie The Master (2012)) So where do you come down on Joaq - is he right now an all-time top 10 American film actor? Is that too high? Is it too low to where he might end up when all is said and done? 01 Al Pacino02 Marlon Brando03 Daniel Day-Lewis04 Robert De Niro05 Jack Nicholson06 Gene Hackman 07 Dustin Hoffman08 James Stewart09 Paul Newman10 Jack Lemmon11 Philip Seymour Hoffman12 Joaquin Phoenix
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Post by stephen on Oct 28, 2020 12:32:53 GMT
He's one of the very best at what he does. The Master is an all-timer (legitimately Top 5 of all time for Best Actor), and his streak afterward is peppered with masterful performance after masterful performance (give or take a Woody Allen flick). His winning turn is kind of a remix/"best-of" compilation of what made his previous performances so special, but I don't hate it by any means.
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Post by wallsofjericho on Oct 28, 2020 12:38:06 GMT
I think it's too early to put him in the top 10 but he's still doing great work and will be interesting to see what further choices he makes. I think he should move away from playing unhinged characters for a while.
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Post by TerryMontana on Oct 28, 2020 13:53:46 GMT
Happy birthday!!!
Not in the top-10 ever imo (noy atm, at least) but certainly one of the best of his era (alongside Leo).
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Post by franklin on Oct 28, 2020 14:05:59 GMT
He should have won for Freddie Quell in The Master, and Day-Lewis should have won before as Bill The Butcher in Gangs of New York.
When it's all said and done, at the end of their careers, him and DiCaprio may end up being in the top 10 of the GOATs list.
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Post by jakesully on Oct 28, 2020 21:03:26 GMT
Happy Bday to this man! He is easily one of my favorite actors ever and I'm so happy he finally won an Oscar (also thought it was cool that he named his son River) My top 5 favorite performances by him are... 1. The Master 2. Gladiator 3. Joker 4. You Were Never Really Here 5. Walk the Line (HM: We Own the Night)
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Post by Mattsby on Oct 28, 2020 22:21:18 GMT
To me he's dabbling right outside the Top 25 along with Leo, and a bit behind them Bale to make the Top 3 under 50y/o. I'd still rank Cage, Bardem, PSH over them... And I think Leo will break those gates before Joaquin who just had a slightly overrated decade and a headscratcher Oscar win imo and probably won't ever perf-surpass The Master. But I love him and his rare, haunted eyes...and I look forward to anything he does - Hbd
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Post by futuretrunks on Oct 28, 2020 23:33:39 GMT
I'll always appreciate his 2000s, but he lost me this past decade and did alot of work that made little to no impression on me for the positive (Her, The Immigrant, everything in The Master outside of the processing scene, YWNRH outside of the scene with the hitman on the floor, etc.). I just don't have any passion for Joaquin anymore. He seems less technically proficient than he used to be (could he actually do the accent and vocal work of Gladiator or Walk the Line anymore?). I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like he's coarsened his acting instincts into this messy smear that had more precision and facets in his youth. What might awake him (IMO) is choosing a few great scripts (if any exist) that elaborate a strong and powerful character arc rather than ask Joaquin to flail around willy-nilly and lean on a few moments of inspiration rather than a fleshed out character and narrative arc. I know Joaquin in The Master is revered by many, but I contrast that performance to Ledger in TDK, where every single moment onscreen is fully expressive and startling. I can rattle off dozens of miraculous things Ledger does there over the course of the movie, whereas I feel honestly like Joaquin has one scene that is among the pinnacle of screen acting and yet spends most of the rest of the movie doing sub-Shia nonsense (the Shia who impressed in New York, I Love You). It'll be interesting to see what happens, and if more people start hewing closer to my opinion in the future.
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