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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 1, 2020 0:29:33 GMT
Denzel Washington just revealed to the New York Times that his next August Wilson play that he is producing is The Piano Lesson. He intends Barry Jenkins to direct and Samuel L Jackson and John David Washington to star. This news is probably a much needed palette cleanser for Jenkins fans after The Lion King news  August Wilson really about to become the Oscarbaitiest franchise in Hollywood. Who knew!
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Post by stephen on Oct 1, 2020 0:36:07 GMT
This has been a whirlwind of a week. First Barry Jenkins is attached to direct episodes of The Knick (a genius idea if ever I heard one), then we get The Lion King nonsense, and then this, which is promising material indeed . . . but if I had to choose between this and Jenkins directing the entirety of The Knick's new run, I'm taking the latter every time. So hopefully this won't create scheduling conflicts with HBO Max.
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Post by speeders on Oct 1, 2020 0:39:46 GMT
Barry Jenkins trying to dethrone Guillermo Del Toro and Luca Guadagnino as the king of attaching himself to projects. Three big projects in one week?! For the love of god, just drop Lion King 2, Barry.
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 1, 2020 0:48:41 GMT
This has been a whirlwind of a week. First Barry Jenkins is attached to direct episodes of The Knick (a genius idea if ever I heard one), then we get The Lion King nonsense, and then this, which is promising material indeed . . . but if I had to choose between this and Jenkins directing the entirety of The Knick's new run, I'm taking the latter every time. So hopefully this won't create scheduling conflicts with HBO Max. To be honest, I can't get all that excited about Jenkins producing/directing the third season of a cancelled show I never watched, so I'm much more interested to see if Barry can land Samuel L Jackson his long overdue Oscar. Jackson doesn't get much baity material in recent years outside of his work with Quentin Tarantino (for which he gets overlooked anyway), so this may be just what the doctor (and Academy) ordered for Sam. |
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Post by franklin on Oct 1, 2020 0:54:26 GMT
Calm down, this is not even something confirmed that came out from Variety, THR, Deadline, etc..
It's not even in the screenwriting phase or the pre-production stage it's just him still talking about hoping to do it.
Wouldn't be surprised if it never happens, especially now that Jenkins will be busy for the next couple of years directing The Lion King sequel.
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Post by stephen on Oct 1, 2020 1:02:34 GMT
This has been a whirlwind of a week. First Barry Jenkins is attached to direct episodes of The Knick (a genius idea if ever I heard one), then we get The Lion King nonsense, and then this, which is promising material indeed . . . but if I had to choose between this and Jenkins directing the entirety of The Knick's new run, I'm taking the latter every time. So hopefully this won't create scheduling conflicts with HBO Max. To be honest, I can't get all that excited about Jenkins producing/directing the third season of a cancelled show I never watched, so I'm much more interested to see if Barry can land Samuel L Jackson his long overdue Oscar. Jackson doesn't get much baity material in recent years outside of his work with Quentin Tarantino (for which he gets overlooked anyway), so this may be just what the doctor (and Academy) ordered for Sam. Dude, take this opportunity and watch The Knick. First off, it was never cancelled -- Soderbergh had always intended to do two seasons and pass the baton, and so the property went dormant for a few years. But it's legitimately a top-ten show of all time, and the perfect argument (along with Fukunaga's run on True Detective) for why auteurs should direct full-arc television series. Then you'll see why I'm more stoked for that than I would be for this, even if it's promising for SLJ. |
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Post by sirchuck23 on Oct 1, 2020 1:06:03 GMT
Denzel Washington just revealed to the New York Times that his next August Wilson play that he is producing is The Piano Lesson. He intends Barry Jenkins to direct and Samuel L Jackson and John David Washington to star. This news is probably a much needed palette cleanser for Jenkins fans after The Lion King news August Wilson really about to become the Oscarbaitiest franchise in Hollywood. Who knew! Nice! Hopefully Denzel makes this happen. If this leads to muthafuckin Samuel L. Jackson winning a muthafuckin Oscar than I’m all for it. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 1, 2020 1:07:07 GMT
To be honest, I can't get all that excited about Jenkins producing/directing the third season of a cancelled show I never watched, so I'm much more interested to see if Barry can land Samuel L Jackson his long overdue Oscar. Jackson doesn't get much baity material in recent years outside of his work with Quentin Tarantino (for which he gets overlooked anyway), so this may be just what the doctor (and Academy) ordered for Sam. Dude, take this opportunity and watch The Knick. First off, it was never cancelled -- Soderbergh had always intended to do two seasons and pass the baton, and so the property went dormant for a few years. But it's legitimately a top-ten show of all time, and the perfect argument (along with Fukunaga's run on True Detective) for why auteurs should direct full-arc television series. Then you'll see why I'm more stoked for that than I would be for this, even if it's promising for SLJ. Strong recommendation. Never heard anyone talk up The Knick like that, though I know it had it's dedicated supporters. I'll try and check it out. |
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Post by JangoB on Oct 1, 2020 1:12:46 GMT
While it's a bit premature to celebrate because it's not really anything beyond Denzel's hopes at the moment, on paper this sounds quite terrific. I'm kinda loving John David and to see him pair up with SLJ would be awesome.
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Post by stephen on Oct 1, 2020 1:14:58 GMT
Dude, take this opportunity and watch The Knick. First off, it was never cancelled -- Soderbergh had always intended to do two seasons and pass the baton, and so the property went dormant for a few years. But it's legitimately a top-ten show of all time, and the perfect argument (along with Fukunaga's run on True Detective) for why auteurs should direct full-arc television series. Then you'll see why I'm more stoked for that than I would be for this, even if it's promising for SLJ. Strong recommendation. Never heard anyone talk up The Knick like that, though I know it had it's dedicated supporters. I'll try and check it out. I've never cared much for Soderbergh in general, and then he showed up with those two seasons and knocked me on my ass. Not only that, it's the first time where I feel his visual stylings worked. And I think Jenkins (who is a consummate visualist on par with Wong Kar-wai) would be utterly amazing in that milieu. Couple that with the level of talent he would be working with, and I can't see how anyone wouldn't be bowled over with that premise. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 1, 2020 1:23:55 GMT
While it's a bit premature to celebrate because it's not really anything beyond Denzel's hopes at the moment, on paper this sounds quite terrific. I'm kinda loving John David and to see him pair up with SLJ would be awesome. Well, at this point we know Denzel has these greenlight to make all these August Wilson films with his deal with Netflix. It's really just a matter of having a script ready and making sure the schedules of all the principles involved align. The "money" as it were, is there. Which is an incredible luxury to have. Shortens the development process by a lot. Denzel talked about trying to produce Wilson's cycle of 10 plays as films within a decade (he's already got two out of the way), so I don't think he's going to be spending too long between each film. He wants it completed in a timely manner as a legacy project. |
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Post by sirchuck23 on Oct 1, 2020 2:38:35 GMT
While it's a bit premature to celebrate because it's not really anything beyond Denzel's hopes at the moment, on paper this sounds quite terrific. I'm kinda loving John David and to see him pair up with SLJ would be awesome. Well, at this point we know Denzel has these greenlight to make all these August Wilson films with his deal with Netflix. It's really just a matter of having a script ready and making sure the schedules of all the principles involved align. The "money" as it were, is there. Which is an incredible luxury to have. Shortens the development process by a lot. Denzel talked about trying to produce Wilson's cycle of 10 plays as films within a decade (he's already got two out of the way), so I don't think he's going to be spending too long between each film. He wants it completed in a timely manner as a legacy project. I believe he’s also talked to Spike Lee about directing one of August Wilson’s plays so I wouldn’t be surprised to see that down the line. Lee tackling August Wilson would be dope. |
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Post by TerryMontana on Oct 1, 2020 6:15:00 GMT
Denzel only producing?
I'd love to see him in the same movie with SLJ...
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 1, 2020 11:03:10 GMT
Um....... There is not a major role in The Piano Lesson that I can recall for SLJ at his age (it's been a while since I saw it)....I guess he could play the very oldest character - not a lead - and I'm guessing that's who he'd play ........but even that one isn't 70! Jeffrey Wright would be the right age for the 2nd lead part or Mahershala Ali.....I can't imagine Jackson would play that one, he's wayyyyyyyyy too old for that one especially. |
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Post by mhynson27 on Oct 1, 2020 12:45:46 GMT
Um....... There is not a major role in The Piano Lesson that I can recall for SLJ at his age (it's been a while since I saw it)....I guess he could play the very oldest character - not a lead - and I'm guessing that's who he'd play ........but even that one isn't 70! Jeffrey Wright would be the right age for the 2nd lead part or Mahershala Ali.....I can't imagine Jackson would play that one, he's wayyyyyyyyy too old for that one especially. He doesn't look 70 though. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 1, 2020 13:20:33 GMT
Um....... There is not a major role in The Piano Lesson that I can recall for SLJ at his age (it's been a while since I saw it)....I guess he could play the very oldest character - not a lead - and I'm guessing that's who he'd play ........but even that one isn't 70! Jeffrey Wright would be the right age for the 2nd lead part or Mahershala Ali.....I can't imagine Jackson would play that one, he's wayyyyyyyyy too old for that one especially. He doesn't look 70 though. Well that is somewhat true ..........but usually the problem is how old an actor looks relative to the other casting......it's just like the upcoming Macbeth where the issue isn't that Denzel Washington is an "old" Macbeth (at 65) or that Frances McDormand is an "old" Lady Macbeth (at 63) - it's that they're an old couple .........now can they get around that.......sure.......but it's an obstacle to get around. Here if Jackson was to play the 2nd lead you would mess up the even older brother casting too.......there's a version of this done for TV that people can check out if they want to see what I mean......SLJ damn sure doesn't look like he's say .......50 relative to JDW - in the play he didn't have a kid at 40 after all and that would change a lot of stuff that's in the text.......not saying you can't pull this off but......it's an obstacle and an unnecessary one too ......and like I said ......maybe as the oldest character - maybe ........but not as the 2nd lead that I can see. I guess we'll see when more details come out though........but if this is a real thing I would expect someone else for that 2nd lead like Ali etc. |
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Post by franklin on Oct 1, 2020 13:27:33 GMT
I don't remember the Scottish Lord Macbeth being an almost 66 years old Afro-American dude.
This is awful miscasting, i don't think the upcoming movie will be any good.
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 1, 2020 13:33:39 GMT
I don't remember the Scottish Lord Macbeth being an almost 66 years old Afro-American dude. This is awful miscasting, i don't think the upcoming movie will be any good. It's Shakespeare dude. It's open to a million interepetations and re-interpretarions. That's how these same plays can be done over and over in different settings and cultures. It's nearly impossible to "miscast" most Shakespeare at this point, as long as you are clear in the intent of your interpretation. Macbeth could be a woman. He can be young or old. He can be a African Warlord or an Iraqi Dictator or a thinly disguised version of Elon Musk. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 1, 2020 13:56:22 GMT
I don't remember the Scottish Lord Macbeth being an almost 66 years old Afro-American dude. This is awful miscasting, i don't think the upcoming movie will be any good. Here's the Macbeth thread franklin if you want to read through it ........sometimes in films (and plays) age can be swerved (and race maybe sometimes) and sometimes it's absolutely miscasting. You can not "do anything" with casting Shakespeare that's silly - you can do a lot with some other creativity though, but don't believe that "do anything" thing. That's particularly hard to do with an in-period setting like the Coen Macbeth film will be - they will have to be creative in other ways or clever in their edits and conception which is possible since Joel Coen (or the "Coens") are the best filmmakers of his generation but not necessarily in this mileau either. Now, in this movie/play The Piano Lesson - there is no reason to force SLJ into this piece that I see - at least in Macbeth you can say well, these are two special actors.......these are starry stars with Oscars......... who both like the theater so it will be a great face off maybe..........but in The Piano Lesson I don't see that kind of urgency.......just to team up JDW & SLJ that's not an acting face-off to me at least..........unless as I said, there's a missing "2nd lead" that's more suited to it which would push SLJ to a lesser part that he's more age appropriate for these days. movie-awards-redux.freeforums.net/thread/11392/denzel-fran-star-coens-macbethlink |
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Post by mhynson27 on Oct 1, 2020 14:15:50 GMT
I don't remember the Scottish Lord Macbeth being an almost 66 years old Afro-American dude. This is awful miscasting, i don't think the upcoming movie will be any good. This might be the most 'franklin' post yet. |
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Post by quetee on Oct 1, 2020 16:31:01 GMT
Um....... There is not a major role in The Piano Lesson that I can recall for SLJ at his age (it's been a while since I saw it)....I guess he could play the very oldest character - not a lead - and I'm guessing that's who he'd play ........but even that one isn't 70! Jeffrey Wright would be the right age for the 2nd lead part or Mahershala Ali.....I can't imagine Jackson would play that one, he's wayyyyyyyyy too old for that one especially. He doesn't look 70 though. Sam can put on the Jules wig and still pull it. He has barely aged |
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Post by quetee on Oct 1, 2020 16:33:56 GMT
I don't remember the Scottish Lord Macbeth being an almost 66 years old Afro-American dude. This is awful miscasting, i don't think the upcoming movie will be any good. First of all, what pictures are you looking at cause Denzel does not look damn near 70 and what does that have to do with anything. Last time I checked, Morgan wasn't Irish either but that didn't hurt Shawshank. Second of all, what is an afro-american? Third of all, why so pressed? don't watch it. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 3, 2020 16:56:09 GMT
New York Times profile on August Wilson's legacy, seems to confirm Barry Jenkins being attached to direct The Piano Lesson, with Samuel L Jackson and John David Washington starring.
Also mentions that other filmmakers and actors being circled for future Wilson adaptations include Ryan Coogler, Ava DuVernay and Laurence Fishburne.
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Post by stephen on Dec 3, 2020 17:00:57 GMT
All these people circling August Wilson adaptations better be keeping my main man Charles S. Dutton in their minds when casting. He played the main role in a TV adaptation of The Piano Lesson back in the '90s and got a Globe nod for it, so we know he's got the chops for it.
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Post by Mattsby on Dec 3, 2020 17:10:19 GMT
ok.ru/video/2340221618715It's on Youtube but in bad quality, here's a better link for anyone interested, the 1995 TV Movie - with Dutton, Alfre Woodard, Courtney B Vance - nominated for nine Emmys. I watched it last week and loved it.
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