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Post by franklin on Sept 26, 2020 14:16:56 GMT
Greatest Christian Bale performance ever (until now)??
I even put some of his lesser known films and performances to give a wider range of choice.
Vote and comment.
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Post by TerryMontana on Sept 26, 2020 14:35:17 GMT
1. The Machinist 2. American Psycho 3. The Fighter
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 26, 2020 14:45:08 GMT
I'm not sure about greatest - The Fighter maybe......American Psycho....... but my favorite and the one I voted for was The Machinist and specifically it shows where his critics (and on this board there are a bunch) are wrong or they were wrong here anyway.
Usually people who criticize him it's for being a "stunt actor" ie shape-shifting his body in lieu of characterization acting.......but The Machinist is specifically NOT that in any way at all. He's a human ghost and his shocking weight loss ties into the script......he's nothing, he's disappearing before our eyes. The weight loss is not "the performance" it's merely where the performance starts.
Maybe this boards most underrated major actor imo - how the fnck did we do a poll on "Best Actor of the 2010s" and he was THAT low ?!?!? - .....people carved out a position on him early I think and often refuse to say they maybe misjudged him or what he's capable of .....Ford Vs. Ferrari was another one where he gave a genuine movie star performance - sexy, charismatic, funny, which you maybe wouldn't think he had in him at all.
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Post by futuretrunks on Sept 26, 2020 14:58:42 GMT
The Fighter
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Post by speeders on Sept 26, 2020 14:59:05 GMT
1. American Psycho 2. The Fighter 3. The Machinist
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Post by stephen on Sept 26, 2020 15:41:53 GMT
Out of the Furnace is the only time that I think Bale, divorced of all his bells and whistles of body dysmorphia, gave a truly mesmerizing and legitimately great performance. He's been really good other times (Empire of the Sun, The Fighter, The Machinist, Ford v. Ferrari, some parts of Vice), but his performance as Russell Baze is his crown jewel. Scott Cooper really got something special out of him that time.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Sept 26, 2020 15:42:20 GMT
Like a lot of stuff hes done, but The Fighter is the only thing that needs to be earmarked in history.
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Post by pupdurcs on Sept 26, 2020 15:49:10 GMT
American Psycho.
But The Dark Knight Rises should be on this poll. It's easily his best performance as Batman, and the one that really keeps him in contention with Michael Keaton as the best actor to play the role.
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Post by JangoB on Sept 26, 2020 15:57:17 GMT
Empire of the Sun which is certainly among the grestest child performance I've ever seen, if not the top one.
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Post by doddgerhardt on Sept 26, 2020 16:03:29 GMT
Out of the Furnace is the only time that I think Bale, divorced of all his bells and whistles of body dysmorphia, gave a truly mesmerizing and legitimately great performance. He's been really good other times ( Empire of the Sun, The Fighter, The Machinist, Ford v. Ferrari, some parts of Vice), but his performance as Russell Baze is his crown jewel. Scott Cooper really got something special out of him that time. I wasn’t the biggest fan of that film, but he was great in and I think more naturalistic than usual for him.
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Post by Mattsby on Sept 26, 2020 17:35:05 GMT
Ford v Ferrari, def. Better than all the Lead nominees that year, it's incredible he missed bc it's such a full and exciting perf that covers what usually draws. To me it's not only a resounding perf from Bale, his best, but a surprise too in what we see from Bale that we hadn't really seen prior. Deeply felt fatherhood, buddy chemistry with Damon, he's sort of the comic relief, and I mean he's never been so loose and charismatic, and he doesn't narrow the complex temper of the character to win you over either, yet he does.
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Post by jimmalone on Sept 26, 2020 18:20:21 GMT
Machinist, The Fighter and Ford v. Ferrari are around the same level for me and his ownly works I'd probably call great. I guess I'll go with Ford vs. Ferrari as for now.
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Post by themoviesinner on Sept 26, 2020 18:26:03 GMT
The Flowers Of War is his best performance for me, with The Machinist and Empire Of The Sun closely behind.
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Post by cheesecake on Sept 26, 2020 19:07:00 GMT
Out of the Furnace.
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Post by cheesecake on Sept 26, 2020 19:07:28 GMT
The Flowers Of War is his best performance for me, with The Machinist and Empire Of The Sun closely behind. Nice choice! He's so good in that and it rarely gets discussed.
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Post by franklin on Sept 26, 2020 19:27:57 GMT
Maybe this boards most underrated major actor imo - how the fnck did we do a poll on "Best Actor of the 2010s" and he was THAT low ?!?!? - .....people carved out a position on him early I think and often refuse to say they maybe misjudged him or what he's capable of ..... Ford Vs. Ferrari was another one where he gave a genuine movie star performance - sexy, charismatic, funny, which you maybe wouldn't think he had in him at all. Exactly, even in other "best actor of the 2010s" lists on YouTube or other forums (Watchmojo, Gold Derby, AW etc..), he's always on third position, behind DiCaprio and Phoenix. I don't know how to put it, or if it makes sense, but I think it has to do with the fact that he's consistently great in lesser revered films, but unlike the other two, he doesn't have higher highs in better and more memorable films (The Wolf of Wall Street and The Revenant or The Master and Her). Thus he's weirdly taken for granted compared to these two imho. Could imagine him in Scorsese or a PTA film?? He would easily be considered the greatest.
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Post by futuretrunks on Sept 26, 2020 20:25:12 GMT
Maybe this boards most underrated major actor imo - how the fnck did we do a poll on "Best Actor of the 2010s" and he was THAT low ?!?!? - .....people carved out a position on him early I think and often refuse to say they maybe misjudged him or what he's capable of ..... Ford Vs. Ferrari was another one where he gave a genuine movie star performance - sexy, charismatic, funny, which you maybe wouldn't think he had in him at all. Exactly, even in other "best actor of the 2010s" lists on YouTube or other forums (Watchmojo, Gold Derby, AW etc..), he's always on third position, behind DiCaprio and Phoenix. I don't know how to put it, or if it makes sense, but I think it has to do with the fact that he's consistently great in lesser revered films, but unlike the other two, he doesn't have higher highs in better and more memorable films (The Wolf of Wall Street and The Revenant or The Master and Her). Thus he's weirdly taken for granted compared to these two imho.
Could imagine him in Scorsese or a PTA film?? He would easily be considered the greatest. I think the issue with Bale when compared to those two is his best work is so completely aligned to the process of physical transformation. He's literalized that aspect of acting more than maybe anyone, but often stumbles to me when he takes on roles of a more purely imaginative transformation (where stuff like projecting charisma or being arresting can't work through a novel physical appearance). It's like he can go very deep with what he does, but has trouble approaching acting from another angle (I give him credit for his work in Public Enemies though, where he was good in a way atypical for him, even though the movie was awful).
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Post by tastytomatoes on Oct 7, 2020 2:08:25 GMT
It's between American Psycho and The Fighter. I voted for the latter but this really is a hard choice. Of course there is also The Machinist, The Prestige, American Hustle and Ford vs Fararri. I'll echo someone above that Bale in The Dark Knight Rises is worth mentioning - an emotionally arresting performance that evokes internal dreariness, anger, sadness and pain but still undoubtedly cool; and which wasn't accompanied by specific physical transformation. Bale brought Batman/ Bruce Wayne to life in perfection.
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jan 22, 2021 3:53:26 GMT
I'm not sure about greatest - The Fighter maybe...... American Psycho....... but my favorite and the one I voted for was The Machinist and specifically it shows where his critics (and on this board there are a bunch) are wrong or they were wrong here anyway. Usually people who criticize him it's for being a "stunt actor" ie shape-shifting his body in lieu of characterization acting.......but The Machinist is specifically NOT that in any way at all. He's a human ghost and his shocking weight loss ties into the script......he's nothing, he's disappearing before our eyes. The weight loss is not "the performance" it's merely where the performance starts. Maybe this boards most underrated major actor imo - how the fnck did we do a poll on "Best Actor of the 2010s" and he was THAT low ?!?!? - .....people carved out a position on him early I think and often refuse to say they maybe misjudged him or what he's capable of ..... Ford Vs. Ferrari was another one where he gave a genuine movie star performance - sexy, charismatic, funny, which you maybe wouldn't think he had in him at all. Given nothing else changes, Bale, Leo, and Wock will remain the golden male trifecta of this age of Hollywood. They are incomparable to anyone else and they are incomparable to each other. All three have taken entirely different routes, with different approaches, strategies, methods or whatever, but they have secured their places due to the immenseness of their personal talents. Only Leo has been lucky filmography-wise. But performance-wise, it depends on what you prefer in the actor. And this board has always sided with favorite directors. Not only that all others on that Best of 2010s polls fall short when comparing to these at same ages, it is likely that these three will keep adding to their individual rosters of tour de force performances in their own ways like they always have. Even while the other actors catch up, the distance will remain the same, unless someone else dials up in a major way and then keeps it up with a humungus consistency- not likely to happen. Even up to 5 years ago I fully expected names like Oscar Isaac, Michael Fassbender, Ryan Gosling and Jake Gyllenhaal to grow bigger and bigger, but objectively speaking... they have gone shorter not bigger (at the very least status quo may be...). Honestly, I do not expect any one of them any more to reach these levels. My only hope is with Robert Pattinson who has the best similarities with both Leo and Bale in his career so far, but even then is a big question mark and the generation gap will remain even there. Even Depp has pretty much shot his career into the ground. Whatever biases this board may have against Bale - he is so totally out of the box actor in so many ways, so this response is never surprising to me at all - all those names represent flavors of the decade, and every decade has had a bunch. Only the next decade will tell if any of those can rise above the fray...
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Post by MsMovieStar on Jan 22, 2021 11:13:28 GMT
Oh honey, I just love him in American Psycho. That movie is flawless.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 22, 2021 13:34:44 GMT
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Post by hugobolso on Jan 22, 2021 13:35:45 GMT
neither of my fav there.- Amlet, Metroland, Equinox you should add the other option.-
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Post by franklin on Jan 22, 2021 14:01:17 GMT
He pulled off an all timer performance like Patrick Bateman at only 26 years old. Legend.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Aug 26, 2021 12:07:38 GMT
Resurrecting this as he's probably still my favourite working actor, Top 2 at least. So it has changed over time, his great performance in Empire of the sun, probably went over my head when I would have seen it as a kid, so the first time I really took note of him and became a fan was Metroland, then American Psycho came along and took the prize. I'd already read and adored the book prior to seeing it, and he did not let me down at all. It's is still one of my favourite lead actor performances, and remained my favourite from him for a long time, although he worked up some real magic in The Machinist in that decade.
In the 2010's The Fighter did throw a bit of a spanner in the works, and it was so cool to see him finally get some awards recognition when it probably should have been his 4th nomination, but as close as it comes to American Psycho, I still gave Bateman the win on points once the dust had settled.
Another decade passes with some top notch stuff mixed among it, but the psycho was still on the throne. Then along comes the very last year of the 10's and Ford vs Ferrari! A film I would never have watched but for his and Damon's casting. What a film...what a performance from Bale and it may well be that Ken Miles takes the chequered flag in this race...for now.
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Post by wallsofjericho on Aug 26, 2021 13:54:07 GMT
Out of the Furnace.
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