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Post by franklin on Aug 9, 2020 15:18:41 GMT
Which of these male actors will be the first who wins a second Oscar?
It's fun to speculate, vote in the poll and leave a comment.
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Post by TerryMontana on Aug 9, 2020 15:28:35 GMT
Well, I don't see Oldman making it for Mank so... Same with Joaquin in the Mike Mills film.
Di Caprio has this Scorsese movie which will probably be an awards player.
Bale has this DoR project but I have no confidence to the guy anymore...
Guess I'll go with Leo once again.
After all, he IS gonna get his second eventually.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 9, 2020 15:35:11 GMT
From this list ......... Bale - People who hate him need to realize how little the Oscar matters nowadays when Hanks/Washington/De Niro are going to win their 3rd in the next ~5 years........... and Bale wins his 2nd and if so becomes the first UK person aside from DDL to have 2 Oscars where 1 is BA ( Anthony Hopkins may beat him to it this year). I would love Pacino to get a 10th nod but I don't think he can win a 2nd .........but if he could get to 10 nods (stay alive, wear your mask dammit!) and 1 win I'd love that because he is our Olivier in a lot of ways. Interesting fact: If he could win a 2nd Oscar - he'd have the Triple Crown twice over which sounds about right to me relative to the American challengers/pretenders to his crown ammirite?  |
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Post by stephen on Aug 9, 2020 15:50:27 GMT
I think Hopkins is Delroy's biggest threat for the Best Actor Oscar, as I really don't see Oldman winning unless he is truly undeniable (and I just don't get that vibe from Mank), so I'd say Hopkins is probably the next to score a second prize just because I think Hopkins might have bigger upside on his end (strong studio, fresher release, critical raves out the ass, powerful role, no category confusion). I think if Lindo goes lead he'll run him a very tight race, but as of now, I'd favor Hopkins by a hair between the two.
Of the men listed, I feel like DiCaprio and Bale work so consistently and get nominated so frequently that it's almost a given they'll win again at their current trajectories. I feel Bale might win his second before DiCaprio if only because there's not really that overdue factor for DiCaprio anymore, so if he were to win his second, it would have to be a perfect storm for him. But it's been a decade since Bale won and I think his win is largely forgotten (not in a negative context, but I feel like the win itself is seen as kind of an afterthought for him), so they might decide to anoint him again.
Redmayne and Rylance have the Sorkin film this year and either of them could be major contenders depending on who the script focuses on. I think Bridges has had such a terrific late-career surge starting with his overdue Best Actor win that I could see him sneaking Best Supporting Actor somewhere down the line. Pitt, probably the same. Bardem is a world-class talent who just needs the right role to get back on top, and Phoenix might win a second later on down the line when he's aged into an elder statesman actor. The others don't feel like they've got another win in them, but it's all about the role and the timing, so who knows. Who could've thought Mahershala Ali would be a two-time winner back in 2015?
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Post by franklin on Aug 9, 2020 15:51:09 GMT
From this list ......... Bale - People who hate him need to realize how little the Oscar matters nowadays when Hanks/Washington/De Niro are going to win their 3rd in the next ~5 years........... and Bale wins his 2nd and if so becomes the first UK person aside from DDL to have 2 Oscars where 1 is BA ( Anthony Hopkins may beat him to it this year). I would love Pacino to get a 10th nod but I don't think he can win a 2nd .........but if he could get to 10 nods (stay alive, wear your mask dammit!) and 1 win I'd love that because he is our Olivier in a lot of ways. Interesting fact: If he could win a 2nd Oscar - he'd have the Triple Crown twice over which sounds about right to me relative to the American challengers/pretenders to his crown ammirite? I read somewhere that Al Pacino is slated to play King Lear in an upcoming theatrical feature film directed by Michael Radford (who already directed him in the very good and underrated The Merchant of Venice). It's considered to be one of the greatest and most challenging roles ever in Theatre. It's an extraordinary part for an overdue legend. I think that if it gets made before he dies and if he nails the role, it could be his best and most concrete possibility at a Tenth nomination and Second win. |
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Post by TerryMontana on Aug 9, 2020 16:24:46 GMT
From this list ......... Bale - People who hate him need to realize how little the Oscar matters nowadays when Hanks/Washington/De Niro are going to win their 3rd in the next ~5 years........... and Bale wins his 2nd and if so becomes the first UK person aside from DDL to have 2 Oscars where 1 is BA ( Anthony Hopkins may beat him to it this year). I would love Pacino to get a 10th nod but I don't think he can win a 2nd .........but if he could get to 10 nods (stay alive, wear your mask dammit!) and 1 win I'd love that because he is our Olivier in a lot of ways. Interesting fact: If he could win a 2nd Oscar - he'd have the Triple Crown twice over which sounds about right to me relative to the American challengers/pretenders to his crown ammirite? I read somewhere that Al Pacino is slated to play King Lear in an upcoming theatrical feature film directed by Michael Radford (who already directed him in the very good and underrated The Merchant of Venice). It's considered to be one of the greatest and most challenging roles ever in Theatre. It's an extraordinary part for an overdue legend. I think that if it gets made before he dies and if he nails the role, it could be his best and most concrete possibility at a Tenth nomination and Second win. Hold your horses.... They plan to make that Lear movie ever since they did Merchant of Venice... |
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Post by countjohn on Aug 9, 2020 16:30:27 GMT
It's harder to project with wins than with hitting a certain nom threshold. All it takes is one part so it has less to do with the overall state of their careers. Leo, Phoenix, Oldman, and Pacino all have things on the docket right now that have win potential so they seem like the choices to me.
It makes sense that Leo is winning the poll since his getting a second at some point feels like an inevitability, but with his gaps between movies these days it's possible one of the other guys on the list could beat him to it.
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Post by fiosnasiob on Aug 9, 2020 17:12:27 GMT
Based on the fact that Zellweger, Ali, Waltz and McDormand are 4 of the last 5 people who joined the 2 times winner club, I should vote for J. K. Simmons, right ?  We never know with the oscars, especially the "who first". I would vote for Hopkins as he has a huge chance to win soon but he's not listed...so, J. K. Simmons then.  |
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 9, 2020 18:19:50 GMT
Of this bunch, Bale. stephen 's logic that enough time has passed between his first win (and it's almost an afterthought now) and he get's nomimated consistently works for me. He just makes sense as a guy to win a lead actor Oscar one day to go with his supporting Oscar. He's got the respect and his first win isn't too conspicuous. DiCaprio possibly strikes me as something of a Paul Newman scenario, where he could end his career with a lot of nods, but maybe only one win. His first win came from an overdue/pressure scenario, so I think he'd have to be undeniable and have very beatable competition to win again. He can win again, but I'm more confident in Bale winning again for some reason. But as has been pointed out, 2 time winners in recent years have often been unexpected and random as hell (did anyone see Zellweger winning again?) so it could be just as easily someone we are giving little chance. |
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Post by morton on Aug 9, 2020 19:00:46 GMT
I think Hopkins is Delroy's biggest threat for the Best Actor Oscar, as I really don't see Oldman winning unless he is truly undeniable (and I just don't get that vibe from Mank), so I'd say Hopkins is probably the next to score a second prize just because I think Hopkins might have bigger upside on his end (strong studio, fresher release, critical raves out the ass, powerful role, no category confusion). I think if Lindo goes lead he'll run him a very tight race, but as of now, I'd favor Hopkins by a hair between the two. Of the men listed, I feel like DiCaprio and Bale work so consistently and get nominated so frequently that it's almost a given they'll win again at their current trajectories. I feel Bale might win his second before DiCaprio if only because there's not really that overdue factor for DiCaprio anymore, so if he were to win his second, it would have to be a perfect storm for him. But it's been a decade since Bale won and I think his win is largely forgotten (not in a negative context, but I feel like the win itself is seen as kind of an afterthought for him), so they might decide to anoint him again. Redmayne and Rylance have the Sorkin film this year and either of them could be major contenders depending on who the script focuses on. I think Bridges has had such a terrific late-career surge starting with his overdue Best Actor win that I could see him sneaking Best Supporting Actor somewhere down the line. Pitt, probably the same. Bardem is a world-class talent who just needs the right role to get back on top, and Phoenix might win a second later on down the line when he's aged into an elder statesman actor. The others don't feel like they've got another win in them, but it's all about the role and the timing, so who knows. Who could've thought Mahershala Ali would be a two-time winner back in 2015? I think that both DiCaprio and Bale will win a second too, but went with Bale for mostly the same reasons. It’s been 10 years since his Supporting win, and I think that his momentum for Vice over Cooper and Mortensen who was in the BP winner for second place showed that they want to award him in leading soon. Plus he did get some traction for Ford v. Ferrari, just not enough to be nominated, but in such a competitive year I think it shows how much he’s on the radar with voters and awards groups. With DiCaprio now that he’s finally won, I agree that either it’s going to have to be an undeniable role, or more likely given how much he works now, he’ll have to wait until he’s seen as due again. I’m thinking it could be as long as it took Streep between her second and third wins because he just doesn’t work that much, and it took so long for him to finally be seen as overdue for his first win. |
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Post by futuretrunks on Aug 9, 2020 21:59:48 GMT
My boy Eddie Redz.
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Post by flasuss on Aug 11, 2020 1:21:23 GMT
Bale is the most likely because while Di Caprio winning a second seems very likely, he doesn't work much these days, so it can take many years for him to win, while Bale is getting noms or getting close nearly every year now.
Then again, no one predicted Waltz and Ali winning their seconds so quickly, or Zellwegger and McDormand getting a second (for the latter, as lead, at least), so what do I know? Might as well have Rami Malek or Olivia Colman winning again next year for all I know.
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Post by quetee on Aug 11, 2020 1:33:25 GMT
Yikes. Damn shame. Al should not be on this list.  |
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Post by morton on Aug 11, 2020 1:41:26 GMT
Bale is the most likely because while Di Caprio winning a second seems very likely, he doesn't work much these days, so it can take many years for him to win, while Bale is getting noms or getting close nearly every year now. Then again, no one predicted Waltz and Ali winning their seconds so quickly, or Zellwegger and McDormand getting a second (for the latter, as lead, at least), so what do I know? Might as well have Rami Malek or Olivia Colman winning again next year for all I know. I guess Colman could for The Father. Hopkins seems like a better bet to win his second, imo, but who knows what the competition will be like for Colman. |
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Post by stephen on Aug 11, 2020 1:42:31 GMT
Bale is the most likely because while Di Caprio winning a second seems very likely, he doesn't work much these days, so it can take many years for him to win, while Bale is getting noms or getting close nearly every year now. Then again, no one predicted Waltz and Ali winning their seconds so quickly, or Zellwegger and McDormand getting a second (for the latter, as lead, at least), so what do I know? Might as well have Rami Malek or Olivia Colman winning again next year for all I know. I guess Colman could for The Father. Hopkins seems like a better bet to win his second, imo, but who knows what the competition will be like for Colman. Depends on how Hillbilly Elegy goes over, but Colman has an incredibly strong part and she's got afterglow nomination written all over her. |
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We never know with the oscars, especially the "who first".
