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Post by dazed on Jul 16, 2020 21:29:25 GMT
Here’s another video from one of my favourite political commentators that lays out my thoughts better than I could:
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 16, 2020 21:43:15 GMT
Here's one I like....from a reporter. Like I said lots of spin out there, I'm sure we could post hundreds of these on all sides.
We should also mention James Bennett leaving a month ago .........something is afoot at the Times obviously this Summer.......and it ain't good.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jul 16, 2020 21:49:57 GMT
Here's one I like....from a reporter. Like I said lots of spin out there, I'm sure we could post hundreds of these on all sides. We should also mention James Bennett leaving a month ago .........something is afoot at the Times obviously this Summer.......and it ain't good. Why did you ignore his comments about the pathetic & shameless hypocrisy of a FRAUD like Weiss, who tried to get professors fired by slandering them as "anti-semitic" for merely rightfully condemning the HORRIFIC war crime actions of the Israeli government, whining about #CancelCulture?? THAT'S the whole point dazed keeps trying to get through your head, bro. She MADE HER BONES engaging in a slanderous witch-hunt that was the EPIDOME of #CancelCulture. I agree with you 90% of the time, and I DESPISE the regressive left & SJW/PC & #CancelCulture as much as anyone here, but I think you're missing the main point here. She's a hypocrite, a bad actor, and a FRAUD.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 16, 2020 22:05:32 GMT
Here's one I like....from a reporter. Like I said lots of spin out there, I'm sure we could post hundreds of these on all sides. We should also mention James Bennett leaving a month ago .........something is afoot at the Times obviously this Summer.......and it ain't good. Why did you ignore his comments about the pathetic & shameless hypocrisy of a FRAUD like Weiss, who tried to get professors fired by slandering them as "anti-semitic" for merely rightfully condemning the HORRIFIC war crime actions of the Israeli government, whining about #CancelCulture?? THAT'S the whole point dazed keeps trying to get through your head, bro. She MADE HER BONES engaging in a slanderous witch-hunt that was the EPIDOME of #CancelCulture. I agree with you 90% of the time, and I DESPISE the regressive left & SJW/PC & #CancelCulture as much as anyone here, but I think you're missing the main point here. She's a hypocrite, a bad actor, and a FRAUD. Actually I ignored his comments because I don't buy his comments .......the point FOR THE FIFTH FNCKING TIME in this thread is not whether Bari Weiss is a whiny brat and Bari Weiss' resignation is independent of her work and behavior where she never had the power to cancel anyone anyway. Her resignation was a great blow to cancel culture and you getting hung up on that topic at this point misses the point imo........see Bari Weiss resignation as a huge win in the cancel culture war.........because it is.........embrace it........and if you want to argue her politics ok, that's cool BUT........that's another thread isn't it.......bro. The problem here is the NYT not Bari Weiss ..........pick your battles more selectively. All I'm saying......
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jul 16, 2020 22:55:05 GMT
Why did you ignore his comments about the pathetic & shameless hypocrisy of a FRAUD like Weiss, who tried to get professors fired by slandering them as "anti-semitic" for merely rightfully condemning the HORRIFIC war crime actions of the Israeli government, whining about #CancelCulture?? THAT'S the whole point dazed keeps trying to get through your head, bro. She MADE HER BONES engaging in a slanderous witch-hunt that was the EPIDOME of #CancelCulture. I agree with you 90% of the time, and I DESPISE the regressive left & SJW/PC & #CancelCulture as much as anyone here, but I think you're missing the main point here. She's a hypocrite, a bad actor, and a FRAUD. Actually I ignored his comments because I don't buy his comments .......the point FOR THE FIFTH FNCKING TIME in this thread is not whether Bari Weiss is a whiny brat and Bari Weiss' resignation is independent of her work and behavior where she never had the power to cancel anyone anyway. Her resignation was a great blow to cancel culture and you getting hung up on that topic at this point misses the point imo........see Bari Weiss resignation as a huge win in the cancel culture war.........because it is.........embrace it........and if you want to argue her politics ok, that's cool BUT........that's another thread isn't it.......bro. The problem here is the NYT not Bari Weiss ..........pick your battles more selectively. All I'm saying...... Yeah, um, NO. You should watch the Kyle Kulinski video dazed linked. I'm not even his biggest fan, but he pretty much NAILS IT. It does NOT help the people like you and me who in good faith are 100% in staunch & passionate opposition to the sickness of #CancelCulture to let hypocritical frauds (with a history of #CancelCulture behavior) like Weiss to disingenuously paint themselves as martyrs to the cause. And she DID have the power to ruin the reputations of the professors she slandered & persecuted. Thank fucking God the administration at Columbia didn't fall for her act.
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Post by countjohn on Jul 18, 2020 21:38:40 GMT
Why did you ignore his comments about the pathetic & shameless hypocrisy of a FRAUD like Weiss, who tried to get professors fired by slandering them as "anti-semitic" for merely rightfully condemning the HORRIFIC war crime actions of the Israeli government, whining about #CancelCulture?? THAT'S the whole point dazed keeps trying to get through your head, bro. She MADE HER BONES engaging in a slanderous witch-hunt that was the EPIDOME of #CancelCulture. I agree with you 90% of the time, and I DESPISE the regressive left & SJW/PC & #CancelCulture as much as anyone here, but I think you're missing the main point here. She's a hypocrite, a bad actor, and a FRAUD. I don't really think that matters. For example a hyper PC left wing professor still wouldn't deserve to lose their job for their political beliefs even if they support other people losing their job for theirs. That's the principle.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Jul 18, 2020 22:19:57 GMT
Yikes ........that was insufferable - he starts out with "yeah whatever" (literally) - then says "he's not going to read the whole thing not going to put you though that" (literally) .........then reads in a whiny "girl" voice.........sexist condescending dick-head. Then he talks about "objective reality" where he proceeds to describe nothing of the kind........then he says how many "pro-Trumpers" are at the Times "probably not many" (implying that's her work when it is not)............then brings up Noam Chomsky as an example of the Left being silenced. That's in the first 4 minutes. Then he brings up Phil Donahue's - 2003 firing - 2003 ........then brings up Jesse Ventura in 2003 /2004.......later mocking her voice again - pronouncing "liar" and "bigot" again like a condescending man with his disgusting penis (um) - Weiss never calls for her colleagues firing and he says she does which is a flat out lie and of course at the end where he actually laughs at her. I think he pretty much summed up my terror with the world today actually ........ Your first paragraph just seems like an excuse to call him a ‘sexist condescending dick-head’ which you really have no basis to other than him using a Karen voice? Lmao. Using a ‘whiny girl voice’ for a girl that’s whiny doesn’t make you sexist. Also, why would he need to read the whole letter for the viewers if he’s already read the whole letter on his own time? The viewers can go read it if they want, he’s just picking out the most important parts of the letter and the biggest issues that he has with it. As most political commentators do when they make videos like these. He literally describes objective reality around the two minute mark of the video. Saying how people that are actually on the left are the ones that are silenced by mainstream media, rather than conservatives. Which is true. Was there anything wrong about him bringing up Chomsky and his absence on mainstream media? Were those Donahue and Ventura firings not true? You bolding the year it happened to make it seem like it was a long time ago doesn’t deconstruct his argument. He even said in the video that the left has been silenced for the past 50 years. Does 2003 not fall within 50 years ago? She says in the letter “still other New York Times employees publicly smear me as a liar and a bigot on Twitter with no fear that harassing me will be met with appropriate action. They never are.” That’s implying that the appropriate action that should be taken is to be fired. There’s no lie with what David said. She tried to get Massad and other people at the Columbia university fired for speaking up for Palestinians, so it wouldn’t be the first time. I’ll link an article of that below, which also points out other dumb shit that Bari has done. theintercept.com/2018/03/08/the-nyts-bari-weiss-falsely-denies-her-years-of-attacks-on-the-academic-freedom-of-arab-scholars-who-criticize-israel/Your comment pretty much summed up my terror with the world today. Jesus you will never admit to any faults of the political left.
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Post by dazed on Jul 19, 2020 0:02:18 GMT
Your first paragraph just seems like an excuse to call him a ‘sexist condescending dick-head’ which you really have no basis to other than him using a Karen voice? Lmao. Using a ‘whiny girl voice’ for a girl that’s whiny doesn’t make you sexist. Also, why would he need to read the whole letter for the viewers if he’s already read the whole letter on his own time? The viewers can go read it if they want, he’s just picking out the most important parts of the letter and the biggest issues that he has with it. As most political commentators do when they make videos like these. He literally describes objective reality around the two minute mark of the video. Saying how people that are actually on the left are the ones that are silenced by mainstream media, rather than conservatives. Which is true. Was there anything wrong about him bringing up Chomsky and his absence on mainstream media? Were those Donahue and Ventura firings not true? You bolding the year it happened to make it seem like it was a long time ago doesn’t deconstruct his argument. He even said in the video that the left has been silenced for the past 50 years. Does 2003 not fall within 50 years ago? She says in the letter “still other New York Times employees publicly smear me as a liar and a bigot on Twitter with no fear that harassing me will be met with appropriate action. They never are.” That’s implying that the appropriate action that should be taken is to be fired. There’s no lie with what David said. She tried to get Massad and other people at the Columbia university fired for speaking up for Palestinians, so it wouldn’t be the first time. I’ll link an article of that below, which also points out other dumb shit that Bari has done. theintercept.com/2018/03/08/the-nyts-bari-weiss-falsely-denies-her-years-of-attacks-on-the-academic-freedom-of-arab-scholars-who-criticize-israel/Your comment pretty much summed up my terror with the world today. Jesus you will never admit to any faults of the political left. Make that the 44th straight reply to me where you say nothing of substance. Now what’s the political left to you? Cause you guys make it seem like the democrats are on the left, so if that’s the case, the democratic party fucking sucks and have continued many of the issues that are going on in America, such as the healthcare system and foreign policy blunders. There’s a couple of faults for you that I’ll admit.
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Post by Film Socialism on Jul 19, 2020 0:07:18 GMT
it sucks that people have to deal with so much antisemitism and she is no doubt a victim of that however she is also a pretty bad person so i'm not too bummed about this
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Jul 19, 2020 2:15:21 GMT
Jesus you will never admit to any faults of the political left. Make that the 44th straight reply to me where you say nothing of substance. Now what’s the political left to you? Cause you guys make it seem like the democrats are on the left, so if that’s the case, the democratic party fucking sucks and have continued many of the issues that are going on in America, such as the healthcare system and foreign policy blunders. There’s a couple of faults for you that I’ll admit. and the 250,000th time you think anyone not as left as you is on the left and I wasn't even talking about the Democrat party.
The whole point of this whole thread was about a woman who is basically center-left working for the most famous newspaper on the planet being bullied out for voicing some contrary opinions to most of the staff but all you can do is 'whataboutism' instead of addressing an increasing phenomena in the media about left wing opinions being the only one allowed.
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Post by dazed on Jul 19, 2020 2:34:46 GMT
Make that the 44th straight reply to me where you say nothing of substance. Now what’s the political left to you? Cause you guys make it seem like the democrats are on the left, so if that’s the case, the democratic party fucking sucks and have continued many of the issues that are going on in America, such as the healthcare system and foreign policy blunders. There’s a couple of faults for you that I’ll admit. and the 250,000th time you think anyone not as left as you is on the left and I wasn't even talking about the Democrat party.
The whole point of this whole thread was about a woman who is basically center-left working for the most famous newspaper on the planet being bullied out for voicing some contrary opinions to most of the staff but all you can do is 'whataboutism' instead of addressing an increasing phenomena in the media about left wing opinions being the only one allowed.
I think anyone not as left as me can still be.. on the left? What? I think you fucked up what you were trying to say. I mean I’m centre left looking at my politics on an international stage. Looking at Americas spectrum though, then yes, I’d be on the left. Someone like Joe Rogan (who isn’t as left as me) would still be on the left too. I pointed out how she’s a hypocrite (literally stating in her letter about how her coworkers should be fired for their bullying comments, even though that goes against what she was trying to say in other parts of her letter). I also pointed out how left wing opinions aren’t the only opinions allowed. Give me a long list of writers then that are social democrats, anarchists, marxists, etc that are on the most famous newspaper.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 19, 2020 8:59:24 GMT
and the 250,000th time you think anyone not as left as you is on the left and I wasn't even talking about the Democrat party.
The whole point of this whole thread was about a woman who is basically center-left working for the most famous newspaper on the planet being bullied out for voicing some contrary opinions to most of the staff but all you can do is 'whataboutism' instead of addressing an increasing phenomena in the media about left wing opinions being the only one allowed.
I also pointed out how left wing opinions aren’t the only opinions allowed. Give me a long list of writers then that are social democrats, anarchists, marxists, etc that are on the most famous newspaper. Not comparable. Do you think social democrats, anarchists, marxists, form the NYT readership or gen pop at all because Bari Weiss is quite mainstream which is why this was a big story to begin with ....stop moving goalposts - the issue here is a writer did a heroic thing.........that you want to negate just because you dislike the writer. It's merely spin on a story not THE story. Hey of those 3 fringe groups what's Nikole Hannah Jones btw .......
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Jul 19, 2020 12:00:49 GMT
and the 250,000th time you think anyone not as left as you is on the left and I wasn't even talking about the Democrat party.
The whole point of this whole thread was about a woman who is basically center-left working for the most famous newspaper on the planet being bullied out for voicing some contrary opinions to most of the staff but all you can do is 'whataboutism' instead of addressing an increasing phenomena in the media about left wing opinions being the only one allowed.
I think anyone not as left as me can still be.. on the left? What? I think you fucked up what you were trying to say. I mean I’m centre left looking at my politics on an international stage. Looking at Americas spectrum though, then yes, I’d be on the left. Someone like Joe Rogan (who isn’t as left as me) would still be on the left too. I pointed out how she’s a hypocrite (literally stating in her letter about how her coworkers should be fired for their bullying comments, even though that goes against what she was trying to say in other parts of her letter). I also pointed out how left wing opinions aren’t the only opinions allowed. Give me a long list of writers then that are social democrats, anarchists, marxists, etc that are on the most famous newspaper. It's not about her personally, it's about a left wing bubble that you won't admit exists. That's effectively pushing woke culture and any pushback gets the cancel culture treatment.
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Post by dazed on Jul 19, 2020 12:09:58 GMT
I also pointed out how left wing opinions aren’t the only opinions allowed. Give me a long list of writers then that are social democrats, anarchists, marxists, etc that are on the most famous newspaper. Not comparable. Do you think social democrats, anarchists, marxists, form the NYT readership or gen pop at all because Bari Weiss is quite mainstream which is why this was a big story to begin with ....stop moving goalposts - the issue here is a writer did a heroic thing.........that you want to negate just because you dislike the writer. It's merely spin on a story not THE story. Hey of those 3 fringe groups what's Nikole Hannah Jones btw ....... Social democrats for sure represent the general population. Look at policies of which majority of the Americans agree with. They’ll align more with social democrats than any other. Bari Weiss also isn’t mainstream wtf? Most people don’t know who she is, especially before this letter came out. I’m not moving goal posts at all? I’d hardly call it a heroic thing. Especially when her letter is riddled with lies and comments that go against her other comments. Where are the voices of all those left writers that she says is there? You want to have a discussion of all ideas, why do social democrats, anarchists, and marxists not fall on your spectrum? Because they’re clearly not for the reasons that you stated above. Those are fringe groups? Yet you call Bari mainstream?
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Post by dazed on Jul 19, 2020 12:15:05 GMT
I think anyone not as left as me can still be.. on the left? What? I think you fucked up what you were trying to say. I mean I’m centre left looking at my politics on an international stage. Looking at Americas spectrum though, then yes, I’d be on the left. Someone like Joe Rogan (who isn’t as left as me) would still be on the left too. I pointed out how she’s a hypocrite (literally stating in her letter about how her coworkers should be fired for their bullying comments, even though that goes against what she was trying to say in other parts of her letter). I also pointed out how left wing opinions aren’t the only opinions allowed. Give me a long list of writers then that are social democrats, anarchists, marxists, etc that are on the most famous newspaper. It's not about her personally, it's about a left wing bubble that you won't admit exists. That's effectively pushing woke culture and any pushback gets the cancel culture treatment. People on all sides get cancelled though. I already put examples of that in my thread. All sides do it. Want another example from just a few years ago? Remember when Sam Seder (a social democrat) was cancelled by Mike Cernovich (a conservative)? Ah yes, Sam was ACTUALLY fired from MSNBC. Also, I don’t even know if we can point towards this as an example of cancel culture if she herself RESIGNED. That’s really not getting cancelled.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 19, 2020 12:28:05 GMT
It's not about her personally, it's about a left wing bubble that you won't admit exists. That's effectively pushing woke culture and any pushback gets the cancel culture treatment. People on all sides get cancelled though. I already put examples of that in my thread. All sides do it. Want another example from just a few years ago? Remember when Sam Seder (a social democrat) was cancelled by Mike Cernovich (a conservative)? Ah yes, Sam was ACTUALLY fired from MSNBC. Also, I don’t even know if we can point towards this as cancel culture if she herself RESIGNED. That’s really not getting cancelled. Also not the point again - the point is HER resigning is the greatest assault ever on cancel culture - because she's the biggest reporter to ever do what she did. You're just not getting why this was such a big deal..........it's because Weiss herself - love her or hate her - IS a big deal and Seder is a big deal to fringe dweller inside baseball wackjobs. Which is why I posted it.......in the NEWS thread ....what you're doing is like if someone posted a thread about LeBron James being an important basketball player and you posting in reply that no he isn't because he takes de facto Communist money through endorsement deals with Nike. It's ...........not wrong .......there's room for your debate but .........it is wildly misplaced in this thread ...........
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Post by dazed on Jul 19, 2020 12:37:17 GMT
People on all sides get cancelled though. I already put examples of that in my thread. All sides do it. Want another example from just a few years ago? Remember when Sam Seder (a social democrat) was cancelled by Mike Cernovich (a conservative)? Ah yes, Sam was ACTUALLY fired from MSNBC. Also, I don’t even know if we can point towards this as cancel culture if she herself RESIGNED. That’s really not getting cancelled. Also not the point again - the point is HER resigning is the greatest assault ever on cancel culture - because she's the biggest reporter to ever do what she did. You're just not getting why this was such a big deal..........it's because Weiss herself - love her or hate her - IS a big deal and Seder is a big deal to fringe dweller inside baseball wackjobs. Which is why I posted it.......in the NEWS thread ....what you're doing is like if someone posted a thread about LeBron James being an important basketball player and you posting in reply that no he isn't because he takes de facto Communist money through endorsement deals with Nike. It's ...........not wrong .......there's room for your debate but .........it is wildly misplaced in this thread ........... The greatest assault ever on cancel culture? Ahahaha. So what you’re saying is that cancel culture didn’t work on her, she wasn’t fired, so she went out of her way to resign to make a point of saying “fuck cancel culture”? Okay. Glad we can agree that she wasn’t cancelled. Weiss isn’t a big deal though? Maybe now after this letter she’ll get lots of attention, but I guess we’ll have to see how long that lasts and if it’ll happen. Sam Seder has 150k followers on twitter and his YouTube channel has 900k subscribes. Bari Weiss for comparison has 220k followers on twitter. That’s after she’s been a headline in news for almost a solid week too. Are you really going to try and make it seem like Bari Weiss is way more popular than Seder? 😂 Would you consider Ken Klippenstein and Brianna Joy Gray as mainstream? Yes, that comparison is totally correct. Because when you make a post about a political opinion writer, there won’t be political comments made.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 19, 2020 12:47:20 GMT
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Probably just because Seder is like in his 50s and praying for the sweet embrace of death and Weiss is 36.........and of course also does things far aside of political thought ........ and has a genuine film masterpiece to his writing credit (sarcasm!).
This actual event has been hotly debated NOW because Weiss is a big deal. That's why no one could have started this thread on this topic on anyone else.
As for LeBron James - thanks for the warning .......and I look forward to your attacks on China good comrade ....
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Post by dazed on Jul 19, 2020 12:58:32 GMT
^ Probably just because Seder is like in his 50s and praying for the sweet embrace of death and Weiss is 36.........and of course also does things far aside of political thought ........ and has a genuine film masterpiece to his writing credit (sarcasm!). This actually event has been hotly debated NOW because Weiss is a big deal. That's why no one could have started this thread on this topic on anyone else. As for LeBron James - thanks for the warning .......and I look forward to your attacks on China good comrade .... What does age or small budget movies have to do with anything? 😂 Weiss isn’t mainstream though? I really don’t understand why you’re trying to push this narrative. The general public doesn’t know her. People who don’t follow politics on even a weekly basis, don’t know her. Another comrade joke. Aha. You really got me this time. You really wish I was a communist, hey?
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 19, 2020 13:18:45 GMT
^ Probably just because Seder is like in his 50s and praying for the sweet embrace of death and Weiss is 36.........and of course also does things far aside of political thought ........ and has a genuine film masterpiece to his writing credit (sarcasm!). This actually event has been hotly debated NOW because Weiss is a big deal. That's why no one could have started this thread on this topic on anyone else. As for LeBron James - thanks for the warning .......and I look forward to your attacks on China good comrade .... Weiss isn’t mainstream though? I really don’t understand why you’re trying to push this narrative. The general public doesn’t know her. People who don’t follow politics on even a weekly basis, don’t know her.Type Bari Weiss Resignation into Google News : 5,570,000 results. So when Sam Seder gets that with his Twitter followers and Youtube channel and anybody equates him with cancel culture in a way even close to Weiss' ............well then I'll post it for him in the MAR "News" thread too I guess.
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Post by dazed on Jul 19, 2020 13:26:30 GMT
Weiss isn’t mainstream though? I really don’t understand why you’re trying to push this narrative. The general public doesn’t know her. People who don’t follow politics on even a weekly basis, don’t know her.Type Bari Weiss Resignation into Google News : 5,570,000 results. So when Sam Seder gets that with his Twitter followers and Youtube channel and anybody equates him with cancel culture in a way even close to Weiss' ............well then I'll post it for him in the MAR "News" thread too I guess. The thing is though, I’m not arguing that Sam Seder is mainstream. He isn’t. Neither is Weiss though. I’m arguing that if you ask the general public if they know either or, especially before her resignation letter, they’re damn near equally popular as each other. You’re trying to make it seem like Weiss is this popular ass writer that is a big deal, even been before her letter, while no one knows Seder, which just isn’t true. Well I mean, one was ACTUALLY fired and cancelled, the other just self cancelled themselves. I think it’s clear which one should‘ve been more of an issue for you.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 19, 2020 13:35:24 GMT
Type Bari Weiss Resignation into Google News : 5,570,000 results. So when Sam Seder gets that with his Twitter followers and Youtube channel and anybody equates him with cancel culture in a way even close to Weiss' ............well then I'll post it for him in the MAR "News" thread too I guess. The thing is though, I’m not arguing that Sam Seder is mainstream. He isn’t. Neither is Weiss though. I’m arguing that if you ask the general public if they know either or, especially before her resignation letter, they’re damn near equally popular as each other. You’re trying to make it seem like Weiss is this popular ass writer that is a big deal, even been before her letter, while no one knows Seder, which just isn’t true. Ah but if you asked them about the writer who resigned from the Times recently they've "heard" about THAT right - and THAT'S why what Weiss did is the biggest attack on cancel culture to date. You're confusing "popularity" of HER - with an awareness of what she did. Because you don't like Bari Weiss which is again not the point - the point is the NYT is a cesspool of toxicity and she raised the issue to the point where it's openly discussed now BECAUSE of her.........and you don't want to admit that .................because you can't give Weiss any credit for anything. Like I said your complaints belong in a thread you think you wrote on "The Evils of Bari Weiss" - this is a NEWS thread.........
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Post by dazed on Jul 19, 2020 13:49:52 GMT
The thing is though, I’m not arguing that Sam Seder is mainstream. He isn’t. Neither is Weiss though. I’m arguing that if you ask the general public if they know either or, especially before her resignation letter, they’re damn near equally popular as each other. You’re trying to make it seem like Weiss is this popular ass writer that is a big deal, even been before her letter, while no one knows Seder, which just isn’t true. Ah but if you asked them about the writer who resigned from the times recently they've "heard" about THAT right - and THAT'S why what Weiss did is the biggest attack on cancel culture to date. You're confusing "popularity" of HER - with an awareness of what she did. Because you don't like Bari Weiss which is again not the point - the point is the NYT is a cesspool of toxicity and she raised the issue to the point where it's openly discussed now BECAUSE of her.........and you don't want to admit that .................because you can't give Weiss any credit for anything. Like I said your complaints belong in a thread you think you wrote on "The Evils of Bari Weiss" - this is a NEWS thread......... I mean for sure some did. Not as many as you think though. A lot of people who don’t follow politics still don’t have a clue who she is. Allowing me to think that it isn’t the biggest attack on cancel culture as it’s not going to have the impact that you think it will. It’s just funny to me how you’re calling someone heroic for doing the “biggest attack” on cancel culture, when that same person has yet to apologize (she went as far as to been deny) for participating in cancel culture by trying to get their professors fired and even promoted it in the same letter that’s the so called “biggest attack on cancel culture“. How can a letter be the biggest attack on cancel culture when that same letter says how fellow colleagues should be fired over their free speech? The issues of media, including NYT, has long been talked about. It’s always been openly discussed. She brought awareness to it, sure, but there’s always been awareness about it. Again, the awareness she brought isn’t as groundbreaking and large as you’re making it out to be. My bad for not wanting to make someone the face of anti cancel culture when they participated in it and still are participating in it. My complaints are justified, are they not? I stated the issues that I have with her resignation letter. What’s wrong with doing that when the thread is about her resignation letter. Again, she’s a POLITICAL opinion writer and we’re talking about cancel culture. No shit this thread will get political.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Jul 19, 2020 19:26:07 GMT
It's not about her personally, it's about a left wing bubble that you won't admit exists. That's effectively pushing woke culture and any pushback gets the cancel culture treatment. People on all sides get cancelled though. I already put examples of that in my thread. All sides do it. Want another example from just a few years ago? Remember when Sam Seder (a social democrat) was cancelled by Mike Cernovich (a conservative)? Ah yes, Sam was ACTUALLY fired from MSNBC. Also, I don’t even know if we can point towards this as an example of cancel culture if she herself RESIGNED. That’s really not getting cancelled. Don't fucking bullshit me you little runt and pretend it's both sides.
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Post by dazed on Jul 19, 2020 20:09:20 GMT
People on all sides get cancelled though. I already put examples of that in my thread. All sides do it. Want another example from just a few years ago? Remember when Sam Seder (a social democrat) was cancelled by Mike Cernovich (a conservative)? Ah yes, Sam was ACTUALLY fired from MSNBC. Also, I don’t even know if we can point towards this as an example of cancel culture if she herself RESIGNED. That’s really not getting cancelled. Don't fucking bullshit me you little runt and pretend it's both sides. There’s people on the left, people in the centre, people on the right that all do it but alright. Wait. Oh wow, would you look at that? It looks like I’m criticizing the left as well. Thought I was unable to do that. Crazy.
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