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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 14, 2020 16:37:48 GMT
Next up back to the boys - (after Pitt/Ford and then Laura Linney) .............. Nick Nolte for a time late 80s, early 90s he was regularly raved yet he only got 1 nod in that period. He turned 50 and seemed on the verge of big things and then in 1994 he had a disaster of a year - Blue Chips, I'll Do Anything, I Love Trouble which smacked him right down. Still he's been nodded twice since ....... He never went back to the stage and spends most of his time on TV these days (which made him famous in Rich Man Poor Man). If you look through photos of his career he seemingly was 15 different guys. Overrated, underrated, just right and fave roles or thoughts in general?  |
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Post by stephen on Jul 14, 2020 16:46:21 GMT
Overrated as a sex symbol. Underrated as the best of the 1998 Best Actor lineup. Just right in having the greatest mug shot ever taken in history.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 14, 2020 16:59:58 GMT
Overrated as a sex symbol. Underrated as the best of the 1998 Best Actor lineup. Just right in having the greatest mug shot ever taken in history. Indeed............ although that might only be because he wasn't arrested for this particular crime against fashion   |
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 14, 2020 17:42:21 GMT
Overrated. I never really liked him, actually.
Sure, he's talented but I just can't stand him in so many of his movies.
Late 80s-early 90s he was considered one of the best of his era or oneof the biggest Hollywood stars or something like that, anyway. Not to me...
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Post by finniussnrub on Jul 14, 2020 18:17:48 GMT
Overrated in his prime, though just right for his later recognized work, but I'd still say overrated overall.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 14, 2020 18:43:20 GMT
I don't know that he's underrated. I'll say just right because his excellent Oscar-nommed turns in Prince of Tides (actually a really challenging role that I don't think he gets enough credit for) and Affliction balance out his soppy hamminess in Warrior (not totally his fault, but everything about that film was pure formula). But it's kind of hard to say because I knew he was a big star back in the day but I've probably only seen like 6-7 of his films so I'm coming at this sorta blind. I think he's generally good everywhere I've seen him, and sometimes great.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jul 14, 2020 22:17:08 GMT
I think he's underrated. He's not appreciated enough despite doing great work for 40 years. The Prince of Tides, Cape Fear, Affliction (tho I cooled off on this performance last time I saw it) Clean, and 48 Hours. He's a 4 or 5 time Oscar nominee in my books.
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Post by thomasjerome on Jul 14, 2020 22:40:57 GMT
"Under Fire", "Cape Fear", "Prince of Tides", "New York Stories", "48 Hrs", "Good Thief", "Clean", "Extreme Prejudice".... the man is terrific in all those and many more. "Blue Chips" is not one of Friedkin's best efforts but I still loved watching it only because how impressively he carries the whole thing. And I don't think he gets enough appreciation for all that. So I'm gonna say underrated.
"Affliction" is probably my personal favorite performance by him and it's one of the biggest Oscar crimes that he lost to... Benigni. Have to note that he was also amazing in "Thin Red Line" that year.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 14, 2020 23:45:29 GMT
I think he's underrated. He's not appreciated enough despite doing great work for 40 years. The Prince of Tides, Cape Fear, Affliction (tho I cooled off on this performance last time I saw it) Clean, and 48 Hours. He's a 4 or 5 time Oscar nominee in my books. I gotta admit if he pulled off his "awful" year in 1994 - it would have been amazing - he has one heavy drama role (Blue Chips), one that is the complete opposite (I'll Do Anything for James Brooks!) and one where he's co-starring with the biggest female in a romance (Julia Roberts in I Love Trouble ) - can't really think of another year like it for a guy at his peak. If it had worked it would have really been something.......a drama, a comedy, a light romance.......on paper it must have looked like a jackpot year...... |
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Post by cheesecake on Jul 15, 2020 0:11:02 GMT
Overrated and I find him to be a very limited actor. He gets way to much shit for Lorenzo's Oil though.
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Post by Mattsby on Jul 15, 2020 2:13:46 GMT
I never really liked him but then last year got all caught up in a streak that snowballed to like fifteen movies, and he was very good or interesting in all of them - except for Luck where a lot of his scenes were maudlin and seemed out of a different show. But anyway, now I've flipped, I dig him. Maybe he was overrated for a while, but not anymore - he's mocked all the time now (I mean, out of all the waterlogged scarecrows, he is my favorite). It somewhat blurs what a talent he was (is?) and he's almost always on the outside of conversations on the greats. Question - What actor does he most compare to? or what block of actors does he belong to? Not the Pacino-De Niro - not really Hackman - Bridges? Tommy Lee Jones? Woods broke out around the same time he did... Anyway, though I can see Just Right (three Oscar noms sounds about right), I'm going with Underrated for the amount of underrated perfs/movies he has....... It's interesting that a lot of his best are outside of that peak period '89-'92 where he was playing melodrama, comedy, the average-joe, villains, detectives, artists. Like Q&A suggests, he knew how to use his size, and could (often, really) acutely draw out characters. Lorenzo's Oil suggests he could be kinda lovable and surprise at playing ethnic. Tides a good sport who could cede to his costars (and he's worked with a lot of great actresses in this way). Everybody Wins is one of my favs of his movies, rated f'n 5.1 on IMDb. And Lionel Dobie from Life Lessons is honestly one of my fav characters ever..... Even so, Affliction and North Dallas Forty and maybe Clean too might be or flirt with being his best. Even stuff like Cannery Row that nobody likes I found really charming. Blue Chips I see a whole coherent and earned arc to his perf. And other more recent stuff, well, he doesn't mind playing up his mess and looking foolish which is cool. Still working, a new movie outta nowhere with Charlotte Rampling and Stellan Skarsgard, could be good..... As the man Dobie says "If you give it up you weren't an artist in the first place."  |
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