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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jul 4, 2020 13:46:59 GMT
I thought this was an interesting comparison. Both have some historically laughable bad performances, both have had runs in paycheck gigs, and both have had some truly great performances sprinkled in. While Wahlberg’s lows are just as bad as Affleck’s...I think he’s had higher highs with The Departed and Boogie Nights (aided by the opportunity to work with Scorsese and PTA). I think Affleck has been more consistently good throughout his career though. And while I think they also both excel at comedy, I have to give Wahlberg the edge there. They both seem to be at their best when they stick to their wheelhouse which is a variation of themselves.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 4, 2020 13:56:49 GMT
To me this is a death by fire/death by drowning: Boogie Nights is a performance where the character/actor playing him are used by the director to full effect - PTA gave that performance. I give Wahlberg like 0 credit for it........none ........and I love the film. I don't think he's that good in The Departed he breaks off some snappy cursing lines - didn't get that either tbh. Affleck at least is a writer he knows what he's trying to do anyway - he's better in Hollywoodland than Wahlberg has been in anything. Affleck for me but as people always (weirdly, wrongly) say to me when arguing politics/cultural events "Do you want to DIE on that hill pacinoyes?" I do not.......  |
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 4, 2020 14:39:58 GMT
Uuuh... Neither??
I slightly prefer Marky Mark, who has given 2-3 fine performances in serious films.
Affleck hasn't even done that...
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Post by stephen on Jul 4, 2020 14:44:23 GMT
I think Affleck is a far more underrated actor than people give him credit for. Yeah, he's got an awful lot of duds in his filmography, but no one could salvage those films regardless of who you put in those parts, and I genuinely believe if you swapped Damon into those parts, he'd be equally bad/miscast. Affleck, when he's on, can be very strong.
Wahlberg has more heights than Affleck by virtue of better career options, but I also think he's far more limited, and those limitations seem strangely self-imposed. This is a man who regrets Boogie Nights, which is the best thing he's ever done.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jul 4, 2020 14:58:51 GMT
Marky Mark in Boogie Nights alone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything Affleck has done thus far (and I'm a huge fan of his performance in Hollywoodland)
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Post by countjohn on Jul 4, 2020 16:06:29 GMT
Wahlberg is fine at his action/tough guy stuff. Affleck outright sucks most the time. Voted Wahlberg but I don't really care about either of them.
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Post by morton on Jul 4, 2020 16:29:20 GMT
I thought this was an interesting comparison. Both have some historically laughable bad performances, both have had runs in paycheck gigs, and both have had some truly great performances sprinkled in. While Wahlberg’s lows are just as bad as Affleck’s...I think he’s had higher highs with The Departed and Boogie Nights (aided by the opportunity to work with Scorsese and PTA). I think Affleck has been more consistently good throughout his career though. And while I think they also both excel at comedy, I have to give Wahlberg the edge there. They both seem to be at their best when they stick to their wheelhouse which is a variation of themselves. Basically this. Usually consistency is a big thing for me, but Affleck’s lows are pretty low that I can’t get over them in comparison to Wahlberg’s highs. (Surprised no one brought up I Heart Huckabees yet.) So I went with Wahlberg. |
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Post by mattfincher on Jul 4, 2020 19:24:19 GMT
Nobody can convince me either has any range whatsoever but when they're in their wheelhouse, they can be good. I think Affleck has 3 very good performances (Hollywoodland, Gone Girl, and The Way Back) and Wahlberg has 4 (Boogie Nights, I Heart Huckabees, The Departed and The Fighter) so Wahlberg wins. But I have a lot more hope for the future of Affleck's career than I do Wahlberg's because Affleck, when he's clear headed, does have good taste in material while the fact Wahlberg either regrets (Boogie Nights) or initially passed on (The Departed) the two best films he's ever been a part of tells you all you need to know about his taste for material.
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Post by jimmalone on Jul 4, 2020 19:25:15 GMT
Wahlberg in Departed gives their best performance, but usually he annoys me even more than Affleck, so Ben.
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Post by mattfincher on Jul 4, 2020 19:28:09 GMT
Here's a thing working in Affleck's favor. He could have credibly done Wahlberg's four really good performances I mentioned except maybe Boogie Nights. But Wahlberg in Affleck's peak performances? I can't see him being good in any of them. So maybe it's actually Affleck...
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Post by mattfincher on Jul 4, 2020 19:34:02 GMT
I think Affleck is a far more underrated actor than people give him credit for. Yeah, he's got an awful lot of duds in his filmography, but no one could salvage those films regardless of who you put in those parts, and I genuinely believe if you swapped Damon into those parts, he'd be equally bad/miscast. Affleck, when he's on, can be very strong. Wahlberg has more heights than Affleck by virtue of better career options, but I also think he's far more limited, and those limitations seem strangely self-imposed. This is a man who regrets Boogie Nights, which is the best thing he's ever done. Affleck is a disaster in most of Damon's best roles so while Damon may have been equally bad in Affleck's crap, he wouldn't have hit Damon's highs either. There's no way Affleck could have done The Martian or The Talented Mr. Ripley. |
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Post by stephen on Jul 4, 2020 20:14:32 GMT
I think Affleck is a far more underrated actor than people give him credit for. Yeah, he's got an awful lot of duds in his filmography, but no one could salvage those films regardless of who you put in those parts, and I genuinely believe if you swapped Damon into those parts, he'd be equally bad/miscast. Affleck, when he's on, can be very strong. Wahlberg has more heights than Affleck by virtue of better career options, but I also think he's far more limited, and those limitations seem strangely self-imposed. This is a man who regrets Boogie Nights, which is the best thing he's ever done. Affleck is a disaster in most of Damon's best roles so while Damon may have been equally bad in Affleck's crap, he wouldn't have hit Damon's highs either. There's no way Affleck could have done The Martian or The Talented Mr. Ripley. Considering I think Damon isn't good in The Talented Mr. Ripley, the bar's not exactly that high for me. As for The Martian, I definitely think Affleck could've played that. |
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jul 4, 2020 21:19:13 GMT
Wahlberg deserved an acting nomination for Pain & Gain. (that's right. come at me, suckers)
(Wahlberg, imo. Thought he was good and served the part in The Fighter too, but clearly pwned by Bale, Adams, and Leo. In that order of varying degrees of ownage)
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jul 4, 2020 22:58:48 GMT
I thought this was an interesting comparison. Both have some historically laughable bad performances, both have had runs in paycheck gigs, and both have had some truly great performances sprinkled in. While Wahlberg’s lows are just as bad as Affleck’s...I think he’s had higher highs with The Departed and Boogie Nights (aided by the opportunity to work with Scorsese and PTA). I think Affleck has been more consistently good throughout his career though. And while I think they also both excel at comedy, I have to give Wahlberg the edge there. They both seem to be at their best when they stick to their wheelhouse which is a variation of themselves. Basically this. Usually consistency is a big thing for me, but Affleck’s lows are pretty low that I can’t get over them in comparison to Wahlberg’s highs. (Surprised no one brought up I Heart Huckabees yet.) So I went with Wahlberg. Wahlberg is generally hilarious in I Heart Huckabees, and actually would be a runner-up on my best supporting actor lineup. It's clear that DOR (asshole and all), knows how to Marky Mark to his full advantage as a performer, best of any director he ever worked with. I've been thinking about this, and it's pretty clear that they both share similarities, especially when it comes to limitations as performers. Wahlberg never had his lull period like Affleck did (although he's been in plenty of flops), but Wahlberg also never reached Affleck's greatness in terms of the number of exceptionally good films he was in. I pick Wahlberg just because I tend to enjoy him more, while also also acknowledging that often his performances can lead some to real awkwardness particularly with movies that are already semi-disasters like Planet of The Apes where he's painful, or The Happening, where he's hilarious. |
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Post by cheesecake on Jul 5, 2020 18:48:26 GMT
Affleck by a lot. I find Marky Mark near unwatchable.
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Post by ibbi on Jul 5, 2020 19:00:11 GMT
The answer that comes immediately to mind when I see this question is a simple one: Fuck the Patriots.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jul 6, 2020 11:10:55 GMT
Wahlberg
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Post by iheartamyadams on Jul 13, 2020 0:23:08 GMT
They’re about on par and actually somewhat similar performers, both in terms of operating best within a very narrow range and having few (if any) truly great performances. But Affleck is one of the most beautiful people I’ve ever seen, critics (and the public) have been much harder on him for whatever reason and I genuinely think he’s more engaging and likable on screen usually, so he gets my vote.
I never thought about it, but I actually think Matt May be onto something with the idea that Affleck could probably pull off the majority of his better work whereas I cannot imagine Wahlberg in his.
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Post by iheartamyadams on Jul 13, 2020 0:38:30 GMT
I think Affleck is a far more underrated actor than people give him credit for. Yeah, he's got an awful lot of duds in his filmography, but no one could salvage those films regardless of who you put in those parts, and I genuinely believe if you swapped Damon into those parts, he'd be equally bad/miscast. Affleck, when he's on, can be very strong. Wahlberg has more heights than Affleck by virtue of better career options, but I also think he's far more limited, and those limitations seem strangely self-imposed. This is a man who regrets Boogie Nights, which is the best thing he's ever done. I was on board with this until you brought Damon into it. Nope. Absolutely not. |
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