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Post by quetee on Jun 28, 2020 19:52:35 GMT
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Post by quetee on Jun 28, 2020 19:53:27 GMT
Sorry, but I had to play it. LMAO!!!
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Post by JangoB on Jun 28, 2020 20:09:48 GMT
I feel bad for all good women named Karen - as I understand this name has been turned into a description.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 28, 2020 20:14:59 GMT
How the fnck is the whole "Karen" thing not skirting around racism btw .......I mean I've laughed at times at Karen material - there's something funny in all stereotypes (on some level) but it really is vile sh it on some deeper societal level too. Let's mock a personalty type of a specific race and name her......I always mock people for being humorless and I'm clearly not - in fact if anything I'm too jokey when I should be more serious ............but one day people will look back on the use of "Karen" and see that it was pretty fncked up weaponization of it .....I'm not sure it's healthy at all. Faith Salie had a good TV piece on this today actually that went well with my bagel and coffee.......lots and lots of coffee.....
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Post by quetee on Jun 28, 2020 20:19:48 GMT
I feel bad for all good women named Karen - as I understand this name has been turned into a description. Well, yeah but as long as they are not one then it shouldn't bother them.
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Post by cheesecake on Jun 28, 2020 20:47:11 GMT
I feel bad for all good women named Karen - as I understand this name has been turned into a description. I recently learned the male equivalent is Chad. I feel bad for those guys, especially because they were named Chad.
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Post by morton on Jun 28, 2020 20:52:14 GMT
I feel bad for all good women named Karen - as I understand this name has been turned into a description. I recently learned the male equivalent is Chad. I feel bad for those guys, especially because they were named Chad. I guess I could look it up, but I really don't get a lot of those Chad type memes. I don't know if they're mocking the Chad in some of the memes or the virgin or both. I thought they were mocking the virgin at first who I assumed was an incel, but then I thought maybe they're mocking both guys because of toxic masculinity. I don't know. I don't get it a lot of times just like TikTok and other stuff, so sometimes I think it's a generational thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 21:01:39 GMT
I feel bad for all good women named Karen - as I understand this name has been turned into a description. I recently learned the male equivalent is Chad. I feel bad for those guys, especially because they were named Chad. The male equivalent of Karen is Kevin. Chad is the moniker for like an alpha-male frat type.
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Post by cheesecake on Jun 28, 2020 21:04:44 GMT
I recently learned the male equivalent is Chad. I feel bad for those guys, especially because they were named Chad. The male equivalent of Karen is Kevin. Chad is the moniker for like an alpha-male frat type. Huh. Guess my source was mixed up. I don't think "Kevin" fits at all.
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Post by quetee on Jun 28, 2020 21:07:02 GMT
The male equivalent of Karen is Kevin. Chad is the moniker for like an alpha-male frat type. Huh. Guess my source was mixed up. I don't think "Kevin" fits at all. This is twitter we are talking about here. Who knows how they came up with any of this. I'm guessing, they wanted to stick with using a K like a play or his/hers type thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 21:07:12 GMT
The male equivalent of Karen is Kevin. Chad is the moniker for like an alpha-male frat type. Huh. Guess my source was mixed up. I don't think "Kevin" fits at all. Kevin about to lose his business... https://www.instagram.com/p/CB_VBYHh51s
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Post by Film Socialism on Jun 28, 2020 21:13:20 GMT
How the fnck is the whole "Karen" thing not skirting around racism btw .......I mean I've laughed at times at Karen material - there's something funny in all stereotypes (on some level) but it really is vile sh it on some deeper societal level too. Let's mock a personalty type of a specific race and name her......I always mock people for being humorless and I'm clearly not - in fact if anything I'm too jokey when I should be more serious ............but one day people will look back on the use of "Karen" and see that it was pretty fncked up weaponization of it .....I'm not sure it's healthy at all. Faith Salie had a good TV piece on this today actually that went well with my bagel and coffee.......lots and lots of coffee..... racism against who lol, white women?
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Post by quetee on Jun 28, 2020 21:24:34 GMT
Promoting your violence. He's one man with a sign. LMAO. Yep, he will losing business in 3-2-1.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 28, 2020 21:26:29 GMT
How the fnck is the whole "Karen" thing not skirting around racism btw .......I mean I've laughed at times at Karen material - there's something funny in all stereotypes (on some level) but it really is vile sh it on some deeper societal level too. Let's mock a personalty type of a specific race and name her......I always mock people for being humorless and I'm clearly not - in fact if anything I'm too jokey when I should be more serious ............but one day people will look back on the use of "Karen" and see that it was pretty fncked up weaponization of it .....I'm not sure it's healthy at all. Faith Salie had a good TV piece on this today actually that went well with my bagel and coffee.......lots and lots of coffee..... racism against who lol, white women?Yup and that was kind of the point of Faith Salie's video if you watched it comrade (?) although she was arguing more overtly sexism it's obviously implicitly racist too - you're assigning a name to a person of a specific race to mock.......it's gross......and yeah I laughed at it but not so much these days. Vile sh it......
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Post by quetee on Jun 28, 2020 21:29:54 GMT
How the fnck is the whole "Karen" thing not skirting around racism btw .......I mean I've laughed at times at Karen material - there's something funny in all stereotypes (on some level) but it really is vile sh it on some deeper societal level too. Let's mock a personalty type of a specific race and name her......I always mock people for being humorless and I'm clearly not - in fact if anything I'm too jokey when I should be more serious ............but one day people will look back on the use of "Karen" and see that it was pretty fncked up weaponization of it .....I'm not sure it's healthy at all. Faith Salie had a good TV piece on this today actually that went well with my bagel and coffee.......lots and lots of coffee..... racism against who lol, white women? LMAO at the part where she showed video of that one lady taking a hammer to someone's car and then saying, "oh, she's mad cause she didn't want to be film". Ummm that is not what happened.
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Post by quetee on Jun 28, 2020 21:34:21 GMT
racism against who lol, white women? Yup and that was kind of the point of Faith Salie's video if you watched it comrade (?) although she was arguing more overtly sexism it's obviously implicitly racist too - you're assigning a name to a person of a specific race to mock.......it's gross......and yeah I laughed at it but not so much these days. Vile sh it...... Judging by the comments she's getting, she won't be invited back anytime soon.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 28, 2020 21:52:08 GMT
Yup and that was kind of the point of Faith Salie's video if you watched it comrade (?) although she was arguing more overtly sexism it's obviously implicitly racist too - you're assigning a name to a person of a specific race to mock.......it's gross......and yeah I laughed at it but not so much these days. Vile sh it...... Judging by the comments she's getting, she won't be invited back anytime soon. Oh I'm quite sure Faith Salie doesn't give af about the comments which were part of her very point about Twitter nation in the first place and the nature of karma........she's a big deal on NPR and a Rhodes scholar so she'll be fine ......... Now how about this dude who I don't have a name for yet but what's this guy's name - if "Karen" is what we call an entitled white woman, what do we call this POS? This guy won't be back soon .........thankfully.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 22:23:56 GMT
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Post by Film Socialism on Jun 28, 2020 22:52:10 GMT
racism against who lol, white women? Yup and that was kind of the point of Faith Salie's video if you watched it comrade (?) although she was arguing more overtly sexism it's obviously implicitly racist too - you're assigning a name to a person of a specific race to mock.......it's gross......and yeah I laughed at it but not so much these days. Vile sh it...... yes it's the standard "cancel culture bad" bullshit that boomers have been piping for years, any leftist will tell you that it can have sexist implications (similar to how all leftists hate hillary but acknowledge that the media's treatment of her was sexist in nature), not sure what is being state here that isn't new. which is why i asked where the racism argument is coming from as it's not one the person in the video is making. white women doing racist or entitled shit is them being a karen, white men doing it is being a chud, not sure we have enough data on white enbys, idk it seems like a kind of weird thing to get upset about when there's a racial component that is against the race which benefits from racial components more than others. none of these women are getting fired or recorded because they're white, it's usually because they're doing something insane before the video starts
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 28, 2020 23:16:20 GMT
Yup and that was kind of the point of Faith Salie's video if you watched it comrade (?) although she was arguing more overtly sexism it's obviously implicitly racist too - you're assigning a name to a person of a specific race to mock.......it's gross......and yeah I laughed at it but not so much these days. Vile sh it...... white women doing racist or entitled shit is them being a karen, white men doing it is being a chud, not sure we have enough data on white enbys, idk it seems like a kind of weird thing to get upset about when there's a racial component that is against the race which benefits from racial components more than others. none of these women are getting fired or recorded because they're white, it's usually because they're doing something insane before the video startsRacism : prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically (added note: that's not exclusively) one that is a minority or marginalized. Point..........you missing it.......the "Karen" culture is vile because it will eventually/inevitably lead to racist memes in reverse for Black males and Black females ..............and even if it didn't it is still racist (and sexist) in itself - see the above definition of racism. We post Public Enemy songs on this website without knowing the words ........Like Chuck D said because he knew about racism and when Black culture practiced it too ......... and "Karen" is the culture now practicing racism (and sexism) on white females - sorry if that bothers you but truth hurts and like I said I laughed at it the way you do any dumb joke............but not so much lately. Vile sh it. Every brother ain't a brother Cause a Black hand Squeezed on Malcolm X the man
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Post by Film Socialism on Jun 28, 2020 23:25:46 GMT
white women doing racist or entitled shit is them being a karen, white men doing it is being a chud, not sure we have enough data on white enbys, idk it seems like a kind of weird thing to get upset about when there's a racial component that is against the race which benefits from racial components more than others. none of these women are getting fired or recorded because they're white, it's usually because they're doing something insane before the video startsRacism : prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically (added note: that's not exclusively) one that is a minority or marginalized. Point..........you missing it.......the "Karen" culture is vile because it will eventually/inevitably lead to racist memes in reverse for Black males and Black females ..............and even if it didn't it is still racist and sexist in itself - see the above definition. We post Public Enemy songs on this website without knowing the words ........Like Chuck D said because he knew about racism and when Black culture practiced it ......... and "Karen" is practicing the culture practicing racism and sexism on white females - sorry if that bothers you but truth hurts and like I said I laughed at it ............but not so much lately. Vile sh it. Every brother ain't a brother Cause a Black hand Squeezed on Malcolm X the man
you're saying that the fact that the karen meme makes fun of entitled white women that there will someday be terms about entitled black women? i mean it's not like "welfare queen" hasn't been a term for decades lol do you think that these women being white is what is going to doom their actions? the term "karen" is not damaging to white people because they are not going to be legitimately disenfranchised by it - it's not like businesses or law enforcement is going to discriminate against them for being white, they would moreso do it because they're women. the sexist aspect of it IS a fair enough criticism though it wasn't what you brought up in the first sentence. i think the PE song in question speaks more to how race-traitors exist in black communities which can drag down the movement (this is not an uncommon belief), which is comparable to making fun of "i wanna speak to the manager" types... because it involves race or something? idk maybe i don't read enough new york times op-eds to grasp the comparison there
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 28, 2020 23:39:11 GMT
Racism : prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically (added note: that's not exclusively) one that is a minority or marginalized. Point..........you missing it.......the "Karen" culture is vile because it will eventually/inevitably lead to racist memes in reverse for Black males and Black females ..............and even if it didn't it is still racist and sexist in itself - see the above definition. We post Public Enemy songs on this website without knowing the words ........Like Chuck D said because he knew about racism and when Black culture practiced it ......... and "Karen" is practicing the culture practicing racism and sexism on white females - sorry if that bothers you but truth hurts and like I said I laughed at it ............but not so much lately. Vile sh it. Every brother ain't a brother Cause a Black hand Squeezed on Malcolm X the man
you're saying that the fact that the karen meme makes fun of entitled white women that there will someday be terms about entitled black women? i mean it's not like "welfare queen" hasn't been a term for decades lol - That's exactly what I'm saying both are vile but "welfare mothers" wasn't codified into a name was it - nope, but it one day will be so laugh at that "Karen" sh it while you can.....do you think that these women being white is what is going to doom their actions? the term "karen" is not damaging to white people because they are not going to be legitimately disenfranchised by it - it's not like businesses or law enforcement is going to discriminate against them for being white, they would moreso do it because they're women. the sexist aspect of it IS a fair enough criticism though it wasn't what you brought up in the first sentence. Blah blah blah - I don't agree - this is race baiting BS. You sound like Farrakhan.......not a compliment. i think the PE song in question speaks more to how race-traitors exist in black communities which can drag down the movement (this is not an uncommon belief), which is comparable to making fun of "i wanna speak to the manager" types... because it involves race or something? idk maybe i don't read enough new york times op-eds to grasp the comparison there........ ah but it's not identity politics is it - I am not linked to someone because of my race........neither are you FS........and THAT'S what the song says ........"every brother AIN'T a brother" (by his skin color).
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Post by quetee on Jun 28, 2020 23:54:37 GMT
white women doing racist or entitled shit is them being a karen, white men doing it is being a chud, not sure we have enough data on white enbys, idk it seems like a kind of weird thing to get upset about when there's a racial component that is against the race which benefits from racial components more than others. none of these women are getting fired or recorded because they're white, it's usually because they're doing something insane before the video startsRacism : prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically (added note: that's not exclusively) one that is a minority or marginalized. Point..........you missing it.......the "Karen" culture is vile because it will eventually/inevitably lead to racist memes in reverse for Black males and Black females ..............and even if it didn't it is still racist (and sexist) in itself - see the above definition of racism. We post Public Enemy songs on this website without knowing the words ........Like Chuck D said because he knew about racism and when Black culture practiced it too ......... and "Karen" is the culture now practicing racism (and sexism) on white females - sorry if that bothers you but truth hurts and like I said I laughed at it the way you do any dumb joke............but not so much lately. Vile sh it. Every brother ain't a brother Cause a Black hand Squeezed on Malcolm X the man
What the hell are you talking about posting public enemy songs and not knowing the words? What the hell got your pressed? What song are you talking about?
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Post by quetee on Jun 28, 2020 23:56:19 GMT
Racism : prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically (added note: that's not exclusively) one that is a minority or marginalized. Point..........you missing it.......the "Karen" culture is vile because it will eventually/inevitably lead to racist memes in reverse for Black males and Black females ..............and even if it didn't it is still racist and sexist in itself - see the above definition. We post Public Enemy songs on this website without knowing the words ........Like Chuck D said because he knew about racism and when Black culture practiced it ......... and "Karen" is practicing the culture practicing racism and sexism on white females - sorry if that bothers you but truth hurts and like I said I laughed at it ............but not so much lately. Vile sh it. Every brother ain't a brother Cause a Black hand Squeezed on Malcolm X the man
you're saying that the fact that the karen meme makes fun of entitled white women that there will someday be terms about entitled black women? i mean it's not like "welfare queen" hasn't been a term for decades lol do you think that these women being white is what is going to doom their actions? the term "karen" is not damaging to white people because they are not going to be legitimately disenfranchised by it - it's not like businesses or law enforcement is going to discriminate against them for being white, they would moreso do it because they're women. the sexist aspect of it IS a fair enough criticism though it wasn't what you brought up in the first sentence. i think the PE song in question speaks more to how race-traitors exist in black communities which can drag down the movement (this is not an uncommon belief), which is comparable to making fun of "i wanna speak to the manager" types... because it involves race or something? idk maybe i don't read enough new york times op-eds to grasp the comparison there That whole reverse meme bullshit makes no sense.
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Post by Film Socialism on Jun 29, 2020 0:00:10 GMT
you're saying that the fact that the karen meme makes fun of entitled white women that there will someday be terms about entitled black women? i mean it's not like "welfare queen" hasn't been a term for decades lol - That's exactly what I'm saying both are vile but "welfare mothers" wasn't codified into a name was it - nope, but it one day will be so laugh at that "Karen" sh it while you can.....do you think that these women being white is what is going to doom their actions? the term "karen" is not damaging to white people because they are not going to be legitimately disenfranchised by it - it's not like businesses or law enforcement is going to discriminate against them for being white, they would moreso do it because they're women. the sexist aspect of it IS a fair enough criticism though it wasn't what you brought up in the first sentence. Blah blah blah - I don't agree - this is race baiting BS. You sound like Farrakhan.......not a compliment. i think the PE song in question speaks more to how race-traitors exist in black communities which can drag down the movement (this is not an uncommon belief), which is comparable to making fun of "i wanna speak to the manager" types... because it involves race or something? idk maybe i don't read enough new york times op-eds to grasp the comparison there........ ah but it's not identity politics is it - I am not linked to someone because of my race........neither are you FS........and THAT'S what the song says ........"every brother AIN'T a brother" (by his skin color). welfare queen was popularized by reagan and was absolutely vital in disparaging women of color for many years. this has already happened for black women at a time when they were actually at a disadvantage for their race. if that ever starts happening for white women en masse due to the word "karen" then yeah it'll be bad, but i seriously doubt that will happen in our lifetimes. not sure who that is but this is the common reasoning for why things of this nature being disparaging to white people isn't seen as racist, it's hardly exclusive to me or black nationalists people are linked to each other for all sorts of things. race is a social construct but it's something which has been given meaning by the social standards that exist independent of how any one person wants them to be. even still, chuck d, tupac, kendrick, and whatever other black people have meant by these kinds of phrases, from my interpretation, is that there are problems within black communities which can be worked on alongside combating racism, as chuck d was obviously very concerned with that. none of these dudes thought that race wasn't important to their identity lol
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