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Post by morton on Jun 24, 2020 23:23:49 GMT
I voted for Dafoe because out of the actors with 4 nominations, I think he’s most deserving.
Who will win?
Dafoe - Not really confident, but he’s on such a hot streak right now that it could happen soon. If he doesn’t win within 5 years, then I don’t know if it will ever happen.
Bradley Cooper - I agree with stephen that it’s pretty obvious Cooper is hungry to win, and I agree that he’ll likely win first from this group.
Mark Ruffalo - I agree with thomasjerome that Ruffalo is still very well liked that I think he’ll win one day as he’s still very much in demand.
Viggo Mortensen - I think he’s very well liked that I could see him winning, but somewhat like thomasjerome I agree that Mortensen’s filmography so inconsistent that I'm not sure he’ll ever win because of it.
Matt Damon - I think he still has time to win an acting Oscar. Just needs the right timing.
Woody Harrelson - He’s getting up there in age, but I think him being nominated along with Sam Rockwell despite double nominations not happening in Supporting Actor since Bugsy shows that he still has a lot of fans. Just needs the right role which I admit is easier said than done.
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Post by JangoB on Jun 24, 2020 23:29:45 GMT
Can't go against the consensus here either - it's Dafoe. It seems like he's been building momentum quite nicely for the last several years so hopefully a win awaits him soon.
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Post by JangoB on Jun 24, 2020 23:32:05 GMT
As to who will win - Cooper is working HARD to make it happen and I think it's bound to work.
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Post by futuretrunks on Jun 24, 2020 23:49:17 GMT
I'm going with Damon, who is the most underrated actor among movie stars. I still feel annoyed that Steinfeld and a grotesquely mumbling Bridges got Oscar nommed over him in True Grit (Barry Pepper also being better the nominated duo). I won't go so far as to say he was better than Leo in The Departed, but I've consistently said I thought they were equal and the best parts of the movie.
Dafoe is too frequently deployed for ends I just don't care about. Movies I don't want to watch, I get bored with, etc. That is a demerit.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 25, 2020 0:05:51 GMT
I'm going with Damon, who is the most underrated actor among movie stars. I still feel annoyed that Steinfeld and a grotesquely mumbling Bridges got Oscar nommed over him in True Grit (Barry Pepper also being better the nominated duo). I won't go so far as to say he was better than Leo in The Departed, but I've consistently said I thought they were equal and the best parts of the movie. Dafoe is too frequently deployed for ends I just don't care about. Movies I don't want to watch, I get bored with, etc. That is a demerit. Damn, I forgot about True Grit. Yeah, he was probably the best thing in that as well. Nice to see someone else going to bat for Damon as well. He is the most underrated movie star actor going, as you said.
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Post by countjohn on Jun 25, 2020 2:20:33 GMT
To me, Damon is no less skilled a leading man than Leonardo DiCaprio. I actually thought Damon gave a far better performance than DiCaprio in The Departed.The main difference betwen them is Leo rarely misses with his film selections, and that puts him in contention all the time. And it gives him a more elevated reputation than Damon. Damon will drop one great film, then end up in two consecutive failed Oscarbaits that nobody remembers. His own performance though is rarely the issue why those films of his don't work. I would agree with this, though. Their standard performances are about the same and I'd take Damon's best couple performances over Leo's. People give Leo credit for "choices" but the issue isn't that other people don't want to work with his roster of A-list directors so he "chooses" those parts. He's the biggest star and can get any movie made so he's everybody's first choice and has his pick of the best parts. Pretty much anyone in Hollywood would have loved to get his role in OUATIH, play Jay Gatsby, be Scorsese's muse, or get the lead in Nolan's first movie after TDK.
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Post by futuretrunks on Jun 25, 2020 3:40:05 GMT
To me, Damon is no less skilled a leading man than Leonardo DiCaprio. I actually thought Damon gave a far better performance than DiCaprio in The Departed.The main difference betwen them is Leo rarely misses with his film selections, and that puts him in contention all the time. And it gives him a more elevated reputation than Damon. Damon will drop one great film, then end up in two consecutive failed Oscarbaits that nobody remembers. His own performance though is rarely the issue why those films of his don't work. I would agree with this, though. Their standard performances are about the same and I'd take Damon's best couple performances over Leo's. People give Leo credit for "choices" but the issue isn't that other people don't want to work with his roster of A-list directors so he "chooses" those parts. He's the biggest star and can get any movie made so he's everybody's first choice and has his pick of the best parts. Pretty much anyone in Hollywood would have loved to get his role in OUATIH, play Jay Gatsby, be Scorsese's muse, or get the lead in Nolan's first movie after TDK. No, the issue is they won't sack up and make shit happen. DiCaprio is in the privileged position that he's in simply because he actually makes constant efforts to express his interest in working with people he deems have done good work. Once actors have made their bones and become famous, that hustling mentality is rarely still evident. Streep and Denzel wait for phone calls, and I don't really blame them for it. But Leo blows up your phone and interrogates you, and thereby evolved into a new animal.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jun 25, 2020 4:38:22 GMT
This one was tough... the poll you did for the female actors was an easy Close for me...
I voted Harris because I think he's been closer to actually win more times than any of the other guys. Dafoe may very well continue his hot streak and win one in the near future. Beatty and Nolte are basically done but they may very well have some juicy swan song performance to win.
The other guys on the list have more than enough time to have LEAD and supporting roles come their way to get theirs. Obviously not spring chickens, but definitely not as old as the other guys... except maybe Cruise, but he obviously has some of that magical Scientology juice that makes him able to leap tall buildings, but at the same time he obviously doesn't care to do any Oscar movies. Who knows with that man?
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Post by TerryMontana on Jun 25, 2020 5:27:59 GMT
Dafoe and Harris. The others are far behind.
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Post by jimmalone on Jun 25, 2020 8:40:25 GMT
Good question. I'm not sure if I ever give any of them a win, might be Ed Harris for Enemy at the Gates and Norton is close for Primal Fear. I'd really like Harris to win though. He has so many strong performances and I might call him the best actor of this very good bunch.
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Post by iheartamyadams on Jul 13, 2020 1:18:05 GMT
Wow. Stunned to see people going to bat for Damon here. I don’t agree with everything, but yes, he’s a VERY underrated actor and I think that’s because he’s leaned more towards a subtle style and has become a very unflashy performer lately. I also think he shines brighter than DiCaprio in his best roles.
I don’t agree that he’s overdue or considered as such in the industry, but I do think he’s pretty well respected. I’m very skeptical of how many actors would’ve actually gotten in for his The Martian perf (esp after that SAG snub). He was also first choice for Manchester by the Sea and Ruffalo’s Spotlight role, so auteurs are still interested in working him. I happen to think he would’ve won if he took the Spotlight role.
I think he’s too talented not to win at some point, and I think he’s had some bad luck in the way the few things he’s turned down ended up being big and the way he ended up with quite a few flops, but I’m sure something will buck the trend soon.
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