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Post by Pavan on Jun 22, 2020 18:03:51 GMT
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Post by thomasjerome on Jun 22, 2020 18:05:18 GMT
Fuck. People used to give him shit for "Batman" films but man, I love "The Lost Boys", "Falling Down", "8mm", "Phone Booth", "Tigerland", "A Time to Kill",and "The Client" . Also enjoyed "Flatliners", "Phantom of the Opera", "Veronica Guerin", "St. Elmo's Fire", and "Cousins". Kind of versatile filmmaker, always tackled interesting subjects as well.
Helped many young actors to establish careers (Colin Farrell, Matthew McConaughey, Kiefer Sutherland, Julia Roberts etc.), was some kind of mentor to David Fincher.
RIP
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jun 22, 2020 18:05:41 GMT
Lost Boys is my shit. RIP |
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Post by Miles Morales on Jun 22, 2020 18:33:32 GMT
Rest in peace Mr. Schumacher.
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Post by wallsofjericho on Jun 22, 2020 18:35:00 GMT
RIP Sir. Was a big fan of Falling Down.
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Post by Mattsby on Jun 22, 2020 18:40:29 GMT
RIP - fascinating career start, doing the costumes on Sleeper and Interiors and in between writing three black-ensemble scripts. His movies were often unkempt but he got a lot of strong perfs from actors - PSH, Blanchett, etc - and even the messiness was sometimes kinda part of the fun (Phone Booth). Falling Down probably his best directed pic? And shout out to 8MM that I watched way way too young during my initial Cage phase.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jun 22, 2020 18:43:24 GMT
One of the very first directors who made me fall in love with cinema. I was completely obsessed with THE LOST BOYS as a teenager. RIP💔🙏
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Post by The-Havok on Jun 22, 2020 18:48:48 GMT
One of the most underrated genre directors out there. RIP
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 22, 2020 18:53:35 GMT
Damn, I know he had basically retired from the film industry, but I had no idea he was sick. People give him shit for his Batman movies, but he made a lot of other fine films. Cousins is an extremely underappreciated romantic comedy, and I love Falling Down. RIP!!!
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Post by TerryMontana on Jun 22, 2020 18:53:56 GMT
RIP. Batman Forever was always my dirty pleasure.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 22, 2020 19:07:17 GMT
RIP
He was a hit and miss director, but he has some genuine classics on his resume and a few little gems, so I hope he doesn't get remembered for directing some of the worst Batman films (though Batman Forever is better than many give it credit for. But Batman And Robin was as bad as it gets). He was better than his worst work.
Celebrate him for The Lost Boys and Falling Down, which are classic movies, imho.
A Time To Kill and The Client are the kind of classy mid-budget prestige efforts that they did so well in the 90's.
For anyone fascinated by the 80's Brat Pack era, St. Elmos Fire was a key movie.
And he gave Colin Farrell a great breakthrough with Tigerland.
When he was bad, he could be very bad. But when he was good, he left us with movies that we can keep watching for the rest of our lives. And not as guilty pleasures either
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 22, 2020 19:24:50 GMT
RIPHe was a hit and miss director, but he has some genuine classics on his resume and a few little gems, so I hope he doesn't get remembered for directing some of the worst Batman films. He was better than his worst work. Celebrate him for The Lost Boys and Falling Down, which are classic movies, imho. A Time To Kill and The Client are the kind of classy mid-budget prestige efforts that they did so well in the 90's. For anyone fascinated by the 80's Brat Pack era, St. Elmos Fire was a key movie. And he gave Colin Farrell a great breakthrough with Tigerland.When he was bad, he could be very bad. But when he was good, he left us with movies that we can keep watching for the rest of our lives. And not as guilty pleasures either That's actually a good description of his career. He was a director heavily dependent on his scripts. He had a good or interesting visual eye most of the time, but a lot of the material he tended to drift towards or got a hold of could often be on the more "campy or silly side" of things, not just Batman. He also had a fascinating career. He started his career out as a costume designer, doing work for Woody Allen among others, before semi-graduating, and become a screenwriter for Motown related projects (he did work adapting The Wiz movie), and then became a filmmaker. There are actually a few podcasts out there about him that I know of, that go into detail about his work, in case anyone's interested in exploring his filmography in film. |
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Post by Viced on Jun 22, 2020 19:32:38 GMT
He deserves a better headline than that.
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Post by ibbi on Jun 22, 2020 21:29:13 GMT
Batman and Robin was... Something, but certainly from St. Elmo's Fire through Phantom of the Opera was a 20 year stretch where he made a lot very varied and damn fine movies that stand with pretty much anything in their respective genres.
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Post by jimmalone on Jun 22, 2020 21:40:58 GMT
He deserves a better headline than that. Well, maybe some people would really think he directed Batman (1989) and that would be indeed a nice, though fake, memory about him. Cause this was better than any film Schumacher did. I'm honest: I never was a fan of him. But he certainly made his fair share of good films. Most of all Falling Down, which I think is pretty great. Also liked A Time to Kill, Phone Booth and to a certain degree Tigerland. RIP |
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Post by mhynson27 on Jun 23, 2020 2:17:03 GMT
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Post by jakesully on Jun 23, 2020 2:50:23 GMT
Well that certainly sucks but he lived a long life. RIP
Loved The Client and Tigerland.
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Post by Weaver Addict on Jun 23, 2020 3:45:15 GMT
St Elmo's Fire - certainly not on anyone's Best Of but it gave us some pretty great actors and goddamnn it, the lovely and underappreciated Mare Winingham. 1 Oscar nom does this woman no justice. Good Night Joel. Actors loved you all around.
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Post by morton on Jun 23, 2020 14:04:08 GMT
St Elmo's Fire - certainly not on anyone's Best Of but it gave us some pretty great actors and goddamnn it, the lovely and underappreciated Mare Winingham. 1 Oscar nom does this woman no justice. Good Night Joel. Actors loved you all around. I was almost done with a really long post about how many actors careers he helped, but for some reason my tablet ate it.  Hopefully round 2 goes better. Schumacher really had a gift though for discovering new talent or helping boost younger talent. St. Elmo's Fire - The definitive Brat Pack movie. The Lost Boys - I know that Jason Patric, the Coreys, Kiefer Sutherland, and Jami Gertz had all done other things prior, but I think that The Lost Boys was pretty big for them, and helped their careers to various degrees. Flatliners - Not Julia Roberts' breakthrough, but I do think it was a big moment as far as her being a huge celebrity because of all the stories about what was going on behind the scenes with Roberts, her fiance at the time Sutherland, and his best friend Patric. From a career boost standpoint, I guess there was Billy Baldwin. Not his breakthrough either, but he was being pushed as one of the next big stars around this time. Not a fan of him as an actor at all, but out of the Baldwin Brothers, he's my second favorite which I wouldn't have seen coming in the early 90s at all especially after Sliver and Three of Hearts.  Dying Young - I know Campbell Scott also worked in other projects before, but I felt that Dying Young was his first big Hollywood role. I don't think it helped him in the way that A Time to Kill helped someone like McConaughey, but I think he did alright for himself. The Client - Schumacher got such an amazing performance from Brad Renfro here, and while Renfro would go on to give other good/great performances, obviously that's all overshadowed by how tragic his short life was. I wish there were more people looking out for the interests of young people, but certainly in the industry, more should be done, and hopefully enough people are inspired by what happened to Renfro and change things for the better. A Time to Kill - The hype over Matthew McConaughey was nuts. Batman & Robin - I know George Clooney had been working for several years before B & R, but I think that without it being such a critical bomb and being the lowest grossing live-action Batman movie, then Clooney doesn't become the Clooney that he would become later on, or at least it would take him longer to get to that point. Instead after B & R disappointed, he vowed to do better movies, and he stuck to that vow. Flawless - PSH is another actor who worked in many projects before he worked with Schumacher, but I remember that around the time of The Talented Mr. Ripley, he was lamenting in an interview on how he still had to go through the audition process while the other big stars in the film didn't and how he hated that he was still at that stage in his career. While I don't think that Flawless made him a huge star, I do think it helped boost his profile with other actors and somewhat with the general public because was nominated for Best Actor at SAG which was a huge deal at the time. I'm sure he would have went onto the same success although I think it might have taken him slightly longer to get there without the attention he received for Flawless just because there's so many great character actors, and unfortunately a lot of them don't ever have their moment in the sun or if they do, they generally have to wait a long time for it. Tigerland - The hype over Colin Farrell was nuts. Veronica Guerin - Again not Cate Blanchett's big breakthrough, but she did rack up another Globe nomination for it, and this was at the tail end of the time between her first and second Oscar nominations. I remember her predicting her every year; although, I thought The Missing was going to be her big ticket back in, and then she ended up being nominated for VG at the Globes, and then didn't go anywhere after that lol. The Phantom of the Opera - All 3 of the leads got a boost; although, iirc the hype was mostly focused on Rossum and Butler. While I think it's actually Wilson who has the best career right now, I think that Butler got a dedicated fanbase out of the project which even now continues to follow him. It's probably not as large as it once was, but I've still seen them out there. Blood Creek - I don't hear much about this movie at all, but this seems like it might have been one of Henry Cavill's first leading movie roles. |
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Post by thomasjerome on Jun 23, 2020 14:31:52 GMT
St Elmo's Fire - certainly not on anyone's Best Of but it gave us some pretty great actors and goddamnn it, the lovely and underappreciated Mare Winingham. 1 Oscar nom does this woman no justice. Good Night Joel. Actors loved you all around. I was almost done with a really long post about how many actors careers he helped, but for some reason my tablet ate it. Hopefully round 2 goes better. Schumacher really had a gift though for discovering new talent or helping boost younger talent. St. Elmo's Fire - The definitive Brat Pack movie. The Lost Boys - I know that Jason Patric, the Coreys, Kiefer Sutherland, and Jami Gertz had all done other things prior, but I think that The Lost Boys was pretty big for them, and helped their careers to various degrees. Flatliners - Not Julia Roberts' breakthrough, but I do think it was a big moment as far as her being a huge celebrity because of all the stories about what was going on behind the scenes with Roberts, her fiance at the time Sutherland, and his best friend Patric. From a career boost standpoint, I guess there was Billy Baldwin. Not his breakthrough either, but he was being pushed as one of the next big stars around this time. Not a fan of him as an actor at all, but out of the Baldwin Brothers, he's my second favorite which I wouldn't have seen coming in the early 90s at all especially after Sliver and Three of Hearts. Dying Young - I know Campbell Scott also worked in other projects before, but I felt that Dying Young was his first big Hollywood role. I don't think it helped him in the way that A Time to Kill helped someone like McConaughey, but I think he did alright for himself. The Client - Schumacher got such an amazing performance from Brad Renfro here, and while Renfro would go on to give other good/great performances, obviously that's all overshadowed by how tragic his short life was. I wish there were more people looking out for the interests of young people, but certainly in the industry, more should be done, and hopefully enough people are inspired by what happened to Renfro and change things for the better. A Time to Kill - The hype over Matthew McConaughey was nuts. Batman & Robin - I know George Clooney had been working for several years before B & R, but I think that without it being such a critical bomb and being the lowest grossing live-action Batman movie, then Clooney doesn't become the Clooney that he would become later on, or at least it would take him longer to get to that point. Instead after B & R disappointed, he vowed to do better movies, and he stuck to that vow. Flawless - PSH is another actor who worked in many projects before he worked with Schumacher, but I remember that around the time of The Talented Mr. Ripley, he was lamenting in an interview on how he still had to go through the audition process while the other big stars in the film didn't and how he hated that he was still at that stage in his career. While I don't think that Flawless made him a huge star, I do think it helped boost his profile with other actors and somewhat with the general public because was nominated for Best Actor at SAG which was a huge deal at the time. I'm sure he would have went onto the same success although I think it might have taken him slightly longer to get there without the attention he received for Flawless just because there's so many great character actors, and unfortunately a lot of them don't ever have their moment in the sun or if they do, they generally have to wait a long time for it. Tigerland - The hype over Colin Farrell was nuts. Veronica Guerin - Again not Cate Blanchett's big breakthrough, but she did rack up another Globe nomination for it, and this was at the tail end of the time between her first and second Oscar nominations. I remember her predicting her every year; although, I thought The Missing was going to be her big ticket back in, and then she ended up being nominated for VG at the Globes, and then didn't go anywhere after that lol. The Phantom of the Opera - All 3 of the leads got a boost; although, iirc the hype was mostly focused on Rossum and Butler. While I think it's actually Wilson who has the best career right now, I think that Butler got a dedicated fanbase out of the project which even now continues to follow him. It's probably not as large as it once was, but I've still seen them out there. Blood Creek - I don't hear much about this movie at all, but this seems like it might have been one of Henry Cavill's first leading movie roles. Great post. He had a good eye for young talent. He gave Kiefer some of his best-known movie roles, effectively used his voice (Phone Booth), leading man charisma (Flatliners), as well as his menacing (A Time to Kill) and cool (Lost Boys) sides. And he had no idea that he was Donald's son, Kiefer got Joel's attention only by a minor appeareance in "At Close Range". "Tigerland" was Farrell's big breakthrough but "Phone Booth" introduced him to even wider audiences and the last monologue was one of his finest early career moments, which helped more people to take him seriously as an actor at the time. He stated more than once that he won't have a career if it wasn't for Schumacher. McConaughey also told "Variety" today how Joel fought for him to be the sole lead for "A Time to Kill" and Emmy Rossum shared some touching words about him after the news. For a filmmaker that made so many successful/popular or cult films with a lot of style, and as someone who launched many actors' career, it's disappointing that many headlines associate him only with "Batman & Robin". |
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Post by Weaver Addict on Jun 27, 2020 7:04:04 GMT
St Elmo's Fire - certainly not on anyone's Best Of but it gave us some pretty great actors and goddamnn it, the lovely and underappreciated Mare Winingham. 1 Oscar nom does this woman no justice. Good Night Joel. Actors loved you all around. I was almost done with a really long post about how many actors careers he helped, but for some reason my tablet ate it. Hopefully round 2 goes better. Schumacher really had a gift though for discovering new talent or helping boost younger talent. St. Elmo's Fire - The definitive Brat Pack movie. The Lost Boys - I know that Jason Patric, the Coreys, Kiefer Sutherland, and Jami Gertz had all done other things prior, but I think that The Lost Boys was pretty big for them, and helped their careers to various degrees. Flatliners - Not Julia Roberts' breakthrough, but I do think it was a big moment as far as her being a huge celebrity because of all the stories about what was going on behind the scenes with Roberts, her fiance at the time Sutherland, and his best friend Patric. From a career boost standpoint, I guess there was Billy Baldwin. Not his breakthrough either, but he was being pushed as one of the next big stars around this time. Not a fan of him as an actor at all, but out of the Baldwin Brothers, he's my second favorite which I wouldn't have seen coming in the early 90s at all especially after Sliver and Three of Hearts. Dying Young - I know Campbell Scott also worked in other projects before, but I felt that Dying Young was his first big Hollywood role. I don't think it helped him in the way that A Time to Kill helped someone like McConaughey, but I think he did alright for himself. The Client - Schumacher got such an amazing performance from Brad Renfro here, and while Renfro would go on to give other good/great performances, obviously that's all overshadowed by how tragic his short life was. I wish there were more people looking out for the interests of young people, but certainly in the industry, more should be done, and hopefully enough people are inspired by what happened to Renfro and change things for the better. A Time to Kill - The hype over Matthew McConaughey was nuts. Batman & Robin - I know George Clooney had been working for several years before B & R, but I think that without it being such a critical bomb and being the lowest grossing live-action Batman movie, then Clooney doesn't become the Clooney that he would become later on, or at least it would take him longer to get to that point. Instead after B & R disappointed, he vowed to do better movies, and he stuck to that vow. Flawless - PSH is another actor who worked in many projects before he worked with Schumacher, but I remember that around the time of The Talented Mr. Ripley, he was lamenting in an interview on how he still had to go through the audition process while the other big stars in the film didn't and how he hated that he was still at that stage in his career. While I don't think that Flawless made him a huge star, I do think it helped boost his profile with other actors and somewhat with the general public because was nominated for Best Actor at SAG which was a huge deal at the time. I'm sure he would have went onto the same success although I think it might have taken him slightly longer to get there without the attention he received for Flawless just because there's so many great character actors, and unfortunately a lot of them don't ever have their moment in the sun or if they do, they generally have to wait a long time for it. Tigerland - The hype over Colin Farrell was nuts. Veronica Guerin - Again not Cate Blanchett's big breakthrough, but she did rack up another Globe nomination for it, and this was at the tail end of the time between her first and second Oscar nominations. I remember her predicting her every year; although, I thought The Missing was going to be her big ticket back in, and then she ended up being nominated for VG at the Globes, and then didn't go anywhere after that lol. The Phantom of the Opera - All 3 of the leads got a boost; although, iirc the hype was mostly focused on Rossum and Butler. While I think it's actually Wilson who has the best career right now, I think that Butler got a dedicated fanbase out of the project which even now continues to follow him. It's probably not as large as it once was, but I've still seen them out there. Blood Creek - I don't hear much about this movie at all, but this seems like it might have been one of Henry Cavill's first leading movie roles. Thank you for that. |
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