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Post by quetee on Jun 19, 2020 22:49:45 GMT
These type of situations can be ughhh. I was in a similar one where the word NO meant nothing to this guy. I really don't get this and it took me a long time to understand it. I was crying and everything. He only left me alone when I yelled RAPE. It was like when he heard that word then did he think he was doing something wrong. That's really terrible and I'm sorry you went through that. I once asked a guy to keep his hands to himself and when he began shoving his hand down my pants I had to physically leave the room and that's what it took to get it through his fucking skull. Thanks. Yeah, I don't get it. Saying no, stop, please leave me alone, doesn't work. I fear it is looked at as foreplay or something.
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Post by JangoB on Jun 19, 2020 23:20:04 GMT
OK, now the new screenshots (which do seem convincing) clearly indicate a pattern of behavior that suggests that he was deliberately targeting younger girls, like it was some sort of a thing for him. That's obviously fucking wrong and he definitely seems like a creep.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jun 19, 2020 23:23:45 GMT
Assault is just a state of mind, Hazel Grace.
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Post by LaraQ on Jun 19, 2020 23:41:59 GMT
How the hell do they market West Side Story after all this??.He's the leading man,I mean,they're screwed basically.Spielberg must be furious.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 20, 2020 0:17:10 GMT
How the hell do they market West Side Story after all this??.He's the leading man,I mean,they're screwed basically.Spielberg must be furious. Well, Steven Spielberg did run a child sex ring, that's why Ready Player One was canceled.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Jun 20, 2020 0:20:24 GMT
Based on the kinds of things this most-punchable-guy-on-the-planet has said in interviews about his personal life and how he views women, "We need to break you in" is exactly the sort of thing I would expect to come out of his mouth in that sort of situation.
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Post by futuretrunks on Jun 20, 2020 0:23:23 GMT
How the hell do they market West Side Story after all this??.He's the leading man,I mean,they're screwed basically.Spielberg must be furious. Well, Steven Spielberg did run a child sex ring, that's why Ready Player One was canceled.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 20, 2020 0:36:42 GMT
I don't know how reliable his source is, but Jeffrey Wells said their encounter took place in New York where the age of consent is 17.So there is no case for statutory rape. That would have been the thing that could really have nailed him I'm really not sure how you can make anything stick against Elgort if that is the case. It's a he said/she said from 6 years ago, where both parties were of consenting age.
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Post by quetee on Jun 20, 2020 0:40:41 GMT
I don't know how reliable his source is, but Jeffrey Wells said their encounter took place in New York where the age of consent is 17.So there is no case for statutory rape. That would have been the thing that could really have nailed him I'm really not sure how you can make anything stick against Elgort if that is the case. It's a he said/she said from 6 years ago, where both parties were of consenting age. It was pretty obvious it was in NY by the way she worded it.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 21, 2020 5:11:42 GMT
Elgort replies: In an Instagram post Saturday, Elgort said that in 2014, “Gabby and I had a brief, legal and entirely consensual relationship, insisting that “her descriptions of events is simply not what happened” and that “I have never and would never assault anyone.”
In his response, the only thing Elgort apologized for was not handling the breakup well by stopping to respond to Gabby.
“As I look back at my attitude, I am disgusted and deeply ashamed of the way I acted. I am truly sorry,” he wrote. “I know I must continue to reflect, learn, and work to grow in empathy.” deadline.com/2020/06/ansel-elgort-denies-sexual-assault-allegation-2014-1202964183/
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Post by idioticbunny on Jun 23, 2020 23:42:28 GMT
Elgort replies: In an Instagram post Saturday, Elgort said that in 2014, “Gabby and I had a brief, legal and entirely consensual relationship, insisting that “her descriptions of events is simply not what happened” and that “I have never and would never assault anyone.”
In his response, the only thing Elgort apologized for was not handling the breakup well by stopping to respond to Gabby.
“As I look back at my attitude, I am disgusted and deeply ashamed of the way I acted. I am truly sorry,” he wrote. “I know I must continue to reflect, learn, and work to grow in empathy.” deadline.com/2020/06/ansel-elgort-denies-sexual-assault-allegation-2014-1202964183/You, and Deadline of course, excluded the part of his comment that totally deflects the accusations and instead turns the allegations into something else entirely: He essentially deflects the victim's accusations to instead make it out to be she posted this out of spite of his immature handling of their breaking up (kind of gives me creepy Kevin Spacey vibes from when he defended his allegations by coming out as gay). He does not apologize for the assault when he says "I am disgusted and ashamed of the way I acted"; he's instead apologizing for his "handling of their break-up". And the media has picked out those key phrases and made it seem like he apologized for the assault and is growing from it when in actuality he isn't. Almost like he's calculated a perfect PR response (he must have taken notes from Spacey). This is why sexual assault victims have a difficult time coming forward. Instead of taking a deeper look at the perpetrators, people would rather focus their attention on the victim's integrity and then the perpetrators only have to say "it's not true, they're crazy" for people to sweep it all under the rug and they walk away unscathed and the only person who is hurt is the victim - once again.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 24, 2020 0:00:03 GMT
Elgort replies: In an Instagram post Saturday, Elgort said that in 2014, “Gabby and I had a brief, legal and entirely consensual relationship, insisting that “her descriptions of events is simply not what happened” and that “I have never and would never assault anyone.”
In his response, the only thing Elgort apologized for was not handling the breakup well by stopping to respond to Gabby.
“As I look back at my attitude, I am disgusted and deeply ashamed of the way I acted. I am truly sorry,” he wrote. “I know I must continue to reflect, learn, and work to grow in empathy.” deadline.com/2020/06/ansel-elgort-denies-sexual-assault-allegation-2014-1202964183/ You, and Deadline of course, excluded the part of his comment that totally deflects the accusations and instead turns the allegations into something else entirely: I certainly did no such thing, I just copied what was in Deadline and posted the link - I didn't have an interest in protecting him or defending him .......I have no feeling on this one way or the other - he's a 20 year old guy with a 17 year old girl......there's nothing criminal here.......a lot of ugliness and hurt feelings......I'm not sure this necessitates "re-shooting his "West Side Story" scenes or saying "he's over!" (really?) ......actually I kind of think it doesn't necessitate any of that ..........but that's me........ maybe I'm wrong.......not sure what you want me to say here (?)
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Post by idioticbunny on Jun 24, 2020 0:37:42 GMT
You, and Deadline of course, excluded the part of his comment that totally deflects the accusations and instead turns the allegations into something else entirely: I certainly did no such thing, I just copied what was in Deadline and posted the link - I didn't have an interest in protecting him or defending him .......I have no feeling on this one way or the other - he's a 20 year old guy with a 17 year old girl......there's nothing criminal here.......a lot of ugliness and hurt feelings......I'm not sure this necessitates "re-shooting his "West Side Story" scenes or saying "he's over!" (really?) ......actually I kind of think it doesn't necessitate any of that ..........but that's me........ maybe I'm wrong.......not sure what you want me to say here (?) I only pointed out that there was more of the comment, a crucial element that changes the narrative, hence why I also mentioned Deadline who is also responsible for not sharing the full wording.
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Post by akittystang on Jun 25, 2020 6:38:41 GMT
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jun 25, 2020 12:40:59 GMT
I remember this article. Seriously, what a douche.
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