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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 12, 2020 2:48:24 GMT
Been thinking about this recently. I was thinking specifically about BlackKklansman and how it wasn't angry enough, instead opting for easy targets that spout MAGA slogans and show the most obvious, visible racism, thus undercutting its own message.
For me, the best angry movie isn't a movie at all, but a TV show: Satoshi Kon's Paranoia Agent. Although it has an anthology feel to it (the show has a different protagonist for each episode, and the tone varies from slapstick comedy to slasher horror to police procedural), never have I seen a director more laser-focused. This man is pissed off at how we consume our entertainment media and how we allow it to morph us, he is pissed at the excuses we make to escape responsibility for our actions. It's like his parade scene from Paprika, but it is spread out across thirteen episodes of fury and it is wonderful.
Any that work for you?
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 12, 2020 3:09:09 GMT
Without Anesthesia (1978) by Andrzej Wajda is a meticulous dissection of what the police state does to you and eats you up - it's a very deceptive and quietly seething film that swings back and forth between personal and political and it takes 2 viewings to really get. I'm convinced every great Polish director saw it and it then somehow made its way into all their work - even though it's not one of his acclaimed films (Polanski, Kieslowski, Holland - who co-wrote it). 
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Post by futuretrunks on Jun 12, 2020 3:34:53 GMT
Crash by Haggis. It's an amazing film in many ways. It actually calls out people like Spike Lee. Way too advanced for the social media era.
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Post by dadsburgers on Jun 12, 2020 3:38:51 GMT
Spike Lee came to mind first with Do the Right Thing-- definitely the best example. Maybe Oliver Stone and Platoon? He has angrier films, but they aren't as good.
Most others I can think of are a little undercut by their anger. I think Adam McKay's The Big Short is a good example, Vice is where he really got too swept up in it.
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Post by futuretrunks on Jun 12, 2020 4:25:49 GMT
Crash by Haggis. It's an amazing film in many ways. It actually calls out people like Spike Lee. Way too advanced for the social media era. You're a dumbass in many ways. Nope. But you're a coward loser. Step up, breh. I'll dispatch your moronic ass in any arena. |
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Post by mhynson27 on Jun 12, 2020 4:57:18 GMT
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Post by mhynson27 on Jun 12, 2020 8:04:38 GMT
Nope. But you're a coward loser. Step up, breh. I'll dispatch your moronic ass in any arena. I won't derail more threads. Once Contenti...er I mean futuretrunks thinks up a response, he can PM me. We been knew that he's 'Contention' but who are you over on AW? |
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Post by Film Socialism on Jun 12, 2020 13:33:53 GMT
Hour of the Furnace
La commune
most silent eisenstein falls here
J'accuse!
Welcome to New York
edit: forgot Redacted by bdp
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Post by themoviesinner on Jun 12, 2020 14:37:15 GMT
Tsui Hark's Dangerous Encounters Of The First Kind (1980) is, in opinion, the definition of aggressive punk filmmaking. It's violent and chaotic and depicts Hong Kong as a incredibly foul and decadent city, full of crime and corruption.
Also, Herman Yau must have really been pissed off at taxi drivers, because in his film Taxi Hunter (1993) almost all taxi drivers are depicted as total dickheads. Not to mention that the film is about a guy that is fucked over multiple times by taxi drivers, totally snaps and starts killing any taxi driver he can find. It's a bizarre film, but incredibly entertaining.
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Post by jakesully on Jun 12, 2020 19:43:09 GMT
Vincent Gallo's Buffalo '66 comes to mind.
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Post by dadsburgers on Jun 12, 2020 20:01:21 GMT
How could I forget La Haine?!
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Post by countjohn on Jun 12, 2020 20:08:38 GMT
Spike Lee came to mind first with Do the Right Thing-- definitely the best example. Maybe Oliver Stone and Platoon? He has angrier films, but they aren't as good. Most others I can think of are a little undercut by their anger. I think Adam McKay's The Big Short is a good example, Vice is where he really got too swept up in it. I had a hard time thinking of anything here, because I think angry films just generally don't work. Angry music or angry novels are often great, but film is such a powerful medium that angry movies end up overplaying their hand. A lot of the reason I generally don't like Lee or Stone as much as some people is that they talk at the audience. This applies to Adam McKay's recent political films too, but he does it even more and simply isn't as talented so his movies are downright bad. But Stone's Platoon is an exception for me. Vietnam fucked Stone up and it feels like it's informed everything he's done since, like he's John Goodman in The Big Lebowski. But here that's actually an asset and makes for something very powerful since the movie is about Vietnam, rather than him always trying to pull other subjects back to the "military industrial complex" or whatever like he always does. I would still say Full Metal Jacket and Apocalypse Now are better because they look at the war with more detachment, but Platoon is a great film as well. |
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Post by Film Socialism on Jun 12, 2020 20:30:31 GMT
Tsui Hark's Dangerous Encounters Of The First Kind (1980) is, in opinion, the definition of aggressive punk filmmaking. It's violent and chaotic and depicts Hong Kong as a incredibly foul and decadent city, full of crime and corruption. Also, Herman Yau must have really been pissed off at taxi drivers, because in his film Taxi Hunter (1993) almost all taxi drivers are depicted as total dickheads. Not to mention that the film is about a guy that is fucked over multiple times by taxi drivers, totally snaps and starts killing any taxi driver he can find. It's a bizarre film, but incredibly entertaining. have you seen Kamikaze Taxi |
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Post by themoviesinner on Jun 12, 2020 20:40:45 GMT
have you seen Kamikaze Taxi I haven't seen it, but I Google searched it just now and it looks very interesting. I'll definitely seek it out. |
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Post by Film Socialism on Jun 12, 2020 20:44:32 GMT
have you seen Kamikaze Taxi I haven't seen it, but I Google searched it just now and it looks very interesting. I'll definitely seek it out. i saw it last year and really loved it and it gave me some hark vibes at times so i think it might be your deal too |
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