Years an unnominated performance WILL/HAS ALREADY surpassed
May 26, 2020 6:44:00 GMT
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Post by urbanpatrician on May 26, 2020 6:44:00 GMT
A nominated performance? (Based on reputation, more mentions by fans, more talked about, a stronger collective film buffs' status, etc?)
For instance.... Amy Adams (for Enchanted and Arrival)
For 2007, outside of Cotillard the rest of the nominees are vastly underseen now. Christie is certainly good, but the fact that it's not her best work and the film is not important outside of acting, not many people these days pound the notion that Christie > Cotillard like in 2007 where many people did. Nobody cares about Blanchett for that performance, rarely anyone talks about Page now, Linney is vastly underseen and pretty sure the Cotillard zealots are gonna crucify everyone compared to their queen, and laugh off even Linney. I don't think Enchanted is talked about as much now as in 2007, but generally that year, everyone just defaults to Cotillard without even thinking about it. But Adams I feel like at least are the back of their minds somewhere and if anyone else is gonna be someone's Best Actress the year, it'll be her. Maybe because Enchanted is Disney and still gets shown on TV sometimes. Some people might still remember Page tho, some older people.
For 2016, Emma Stone is gonna be the default choice for 2016 for sure. Huppert is legendary, but she's a cult hit and her film isn't as big as Arrival and La La Land. I think in 2025, we'll see 80% of the people go with either Adams or Stone. Huppert's legendary status will keep even that small fire burning though. I see Portman tapering off a bit from people's memories.
Another example..... Nicole Kidman (for To Die For and Dogville)
1995. Hard to imagine she wasn't nominated for To Die For. But the year is strong and all 5 of the performances have stayed with people's consciousness. But I'm willing to bet that even outside of Kidman fanboys, most prefers Kidman that year to at the very least Thompson and Stone, and if we put this poll to Oscar Buzz, I think Kidman's legendary status slightly brings out more numbers that would bring her over Shue, Streep, and Sarandon as well
2003. A much weaker year compared to 1995. Film buffs are surprised to learn Scar Jo wasn't actually nominated for LIT. Neither was Kidman for Dogville. Most people will go with those over Watts, Castle-Hughes, Keaton, and Morton. I personally thought Morton was the best of the nominees but I don't think most new buffs have bothered to see that movie. I realize Theron is probably gonna overtake everyone, but I think actorphiles will lean Theron, the filmphiles probably won't have bothered to see ANY of the nominees including the winner, and just ScarJo and Kidman.
Any other examples you have? I'm sure there are lots that goes here. Mia Farrow.... is just dripping from your tongues, I can see it.
For instance.... Amy Adams (for Enchanted and Arrival)
For 2007, outside of Cotillard the rest of the nominees are vastly underseen now. Christie is certainly good, but the fact that it's not her best work and the film is not important outside of acting, not many people these days pound the notion that Christie > Cotillard like in 2007 where many people did. Nobody cares about Blanchett for that performance, rarely anyone talks about Page now, Linney is vastly underseen and pretty sure the Cotillard zealots are gonna crucify everyone compared to their queen, and laugh off even Linney. I don't think Enchanted is talked about as much now as in 2007, but generally that year, everyone just defaults to Cotillard without even thinking about it. But Adams I feel like at least are the back of their minds somewhere and if anyone else is gonna be someone's Best Actress the year, it'll be her. Maybe because Enchanted is Disney and still gets shown on TV sometimes. Some people might still remember Page tho, some older people.
For 2016, Emma Stone is gonna be the default choice for 2016 for sure. Huppert is legendary, but she's a cult hit and her film isn't as big as Arrival and La La Land. I think in 2025, we'll see 80% of the people go with either Adams or Stone. Huppert's legendary status will keep even that small fire burning though. I see Portman tapering off a bit from people's memories.
Another example..... Nicole Kidman (for To Die For and Dogville)
1995. Hard to imagine she wasn't nominated for To Die For. But the year is strong and all 5 of the performances have stayed with people's consciousness. But I'm willing to bet that even outside of Kidman fanboys, most prefers Kidman that year to at the very least Thompson and Stone, and if we put this poll to Oscar Buzz, I think Kidman's legendary status slightly brings out more numbers that would bring her over Shue, Streep, and Sarandon as well
2003. A much weaker year compared to 1995. Film buffs are surprised to learn Scar Jo wasn't actually nominated for LIT. Neither was Kidman for Dogville. Most people will go with those over Watts, Castle-Hughes, Keaton, and Morton. I personally thought Morton was the best of the nominees but I don't think most new buffs have bothered to see that movie. I realize Theron is probably gonna overtake everyone, but I think actorphiles will lean Theron, the filmphiles probably won't have bothered to see ANY of the nominees including the winner, and just ScarJo and Kidman.
Any other examples you have? I'm sure there are lots that goes here. Mia Farrow.... is just dripping from your tongues, I can see it.