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Post by Sullivan on Mar 25, 2017 14:06:28 GMT
I feel like I'm getting waterboarded. The performances are fine, but the movies are so incredibly DULL. Blue Sky, Children of a Lesser God, The Trip to Bountiful, Places in the Heart, Coal Miner's Daughter, Norma Rae, A Touch of Class, Darling, BUtterfield, Anastasia, etc, just to name a few. Pretty much all of these haven't stood the test of time and dated horribly, and only got rewarded for best actress. That category is by far the most tedious one to go through. All the other categories (Sup Actor/Actress and Leading Actor) are way more accessible with actual decent movies.
Meryl Streep was the last one to win an Oscar for a movie that's equally boring/bad/dated as the ones like Jessica Lange in Blue Sky and pretty much all of the ones before that, and that is The Iron Lady. Bullock for the The Blind Side is also debatable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 15:04:18 GMT
I haven't seen a lot of them for this very reason. Oscar winners in general, actually. Those guys could really do a better job picking the best stuff of the year
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Post by eyebrowmorroco on Mar 27, 2017 3:38:37 GMT
William Hurt is absolutely amazing in Children of a Lesser God. Back when he could do no wrong. It's one of the greatest performances I've seen.
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Post by DingoMatty on Apr 3, 2017 3:03:02 GMT
The criticism for some of these films is totally deserved, but I thought Norma Rae was pretty great myself...
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Post by scorpio68 on Apr 4, 2017 5:21:57 GMT
Coal Miner's Daughter is an outstanding movie and doesn't feel dated whatsoever
Norma Rae is also a wonderful film, doesn't seem dated at all
Darling is very much a product of the swinging British 60's, but Julie Christie gives a compelling, fascinating performance in it
Places in the Heart has an excellent ensemble, I find it very watchable
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 4, 2017 5:45:38 GMT
I'll agree Trip to Bountiful was dull as hell, but I really enjoyed Coal Miner's Daughter and Places in the Heart (the closing image was especially powerful).
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Post by avnermoriarti on Apr 6, 2017 16:24:22 GMT
There are many worthless films to go through, that's why I gave up a long time ago, but once in a while when I'm in the mood of some chessy movie I'll watch it.
However, there's a difference of a film being dated ( I believe The Trip to Bountiful and Places in the Heart were dated even before they were released and have no real reason to exist other than give their lead actresses an oscar ) and being a part of an especific era that speak for its time, I'm talking about Darling, this film is not dated at all, the film is as entertaining, sharp and subversive as you can get, it has a particular estructure to expose different themes and undertones, the characters and their actions adress some scathing observations about the nature of class systems, in this case, british, and the target are the different stereotypes. I can't conceive a film with so much substance can be classified as dated. And then you have the look of the film which very much follows the style of the swinging sixties, the light and shadows and jazz score. Overall, very elegant visuals. So yeah, not dated at all.
Coal Miner's Daughter is another one, that, while trapped into the tv-ish aspect, does better in its content.
And a movie like Children of a Lesser God, are more like time capsules, a product of its time, showing what an average film of that era could do, put pause in a random scene and you go and say , yeap, chessy 80s movie. And I don't see a lot of problem with that ( the look/aspect of those films ) it has to do more with the story itself, I mean, if we were alive at the time, we could guess right away that Marlee Matlin was going to win the oscar because she's playing a sexually curious, mute, theaf, pretty, young girl.
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