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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Apr 20, 2020 1:44:04 GMT
Anyone else pumped for this? First two eps premiere tonight. I can’t wait.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 20, 2020 1:50:54 GMT
Of course I'll watch it, though later tonight.
Love Jordan. Possibly my favorite athlete of all-time and definitely the greatest basketball player of all time. That Bulls run in the 90s was magical, and such a highpoint in the NBA. It has not been the same since he's retired - the 00s was the worst decade for the NBA.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Apr 20, 2020 2:11:44 GMT
Of course I'll watch it, though later tonight. Love Jordan. Possibly my favorite athlete of all-time and definitely the greatest basketball player of all time. That Bulls run in the 90s was magical, and such a highpoint in the NBA. It has not been the same since he's retired - the 00s was the worst decade for the NBA. I grew up in Chicago and experience the bulls run from 5th grade thru my Sophomore year in high school so it obviously was a huge part of my youth. I took it for granted back then but now I’m able to realize just how lucky I was to get to experience that, especially at that time I’m my life. I do think that so many years later, younger people just don’t realize how amazing Jordan was. None of the current players in the NBA are close to being as good as he was.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 20, 2020 8:06:54 GMT
Riveting stuff. I feel like it's just getting started.
I liked the part where Obama said he was too broke to pay to see Jordan play in 80s Chicago. And the Scottie Pippen/Jerry Krause war was really engaging. I'm pretty sure the next 2 weeks will really hook me into a possible all-time great sports documentary. It might even already be better than Hoop Dreams.
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 20, 2020 13:25:21 GMT
I'm seriously thinking of watching this. Big fan of the 90s Chicago Bulls.
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Post by getclutch on Apr 20, 2020 13:52:13 GMT
I'm seriously thinking of watching this. Big fan of the 90s Chicago Bulls.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Apr 20, 2020 14:07:58 GMT
I'm seriously thinking of watching this. Big fan of the 90s Chicago Bulls. You absolutely should. The first 2 episodes were just perfection. I could probably watch 100 hours of this.
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Post by Joaquim on Apr 20, 2020 15:58:21 GMT
That shit was good
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Post by getclutch on Apr 20, 2020 17:55:53 GMT
Of course I'll watch it, though later tonight. Love Jordan. Possibly my favorite athlete of all-time and definitely the greatest basketball player of all time. That Bulls run in the 90s was magical, and such a highpoint in the NBA. It has not been the same since he's retired - the 00s was the worst decade for the NBA. I grew up in Chicago and experience the bulls run from 5th grade thru my Sophomore year in high school so it obviously was a huge part of my youth. I took it for granted back then but now I’m able to realize just how lucky I was to get to experience that, especially at that time I’m my life. I do think that so many years later, younger people just don’t realize how amazing Jordan was. None of the current players in the NBA are close to being as good as he was. Same here. “This was our last dance, and it was a wonderful waltz”. Yeah, I remember Phil saying that at the rally celebration & it was no surprise to me or my friends that the dynasty ended. It is very unfortunate Jerry Krause is no longer around, really wanted to hear his side of the story. I do not think it will be discussed though I want to know more about Jordan’s gambling incident in Atlantic City. Did he really retire or was he suspended? I remember that conference, the whole “nothing left to prove” meant nothing when he came back in ’95. Overall, eight more episodes. Let’s see where this goes.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Apr 28, 2020 1:49:23 GMT
Just keeps gettin better. Episodes 3 & 4 were fantastic. Horace Grant with an all-time savage quote about Detroit.
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Post by Joaquim on Apr 28, 2020 2:03:59 GMT
I was really hoping the Kim Jong-un death stuff was just a publicity stunt to hype up a secret interview he did for the Dennis Rodman episodes.
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Post by getclutch on Apr 28, 2020 3:22:38 GMT
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 28, 2020 8:54:29 GMT
Wow.... this part was even better than last week's. It's gonna be kinda hard for this peak to get any higher since it already feels like a plateau of dramatic intensity, but I think next week has a chance at reaching the ultimate peak of this series. If this was ranked along with films, I'd probably put this in my all-time top 40.
Love that "You let him go to Vegas, you ain't gonna see that dude in 48 hours" HA. Rodman was like "I'll take anything you give me, but I need to go to Vegas. 48 hours, 59 hours, whatever." And true to form, he didn't keep his word of coming back in 48 hours. Jordan had to go to Vegas to knock on his door. Carmen Electra had to open in Rodman's stead to see the face of Jordan bringing the bad news that the party was over.
And that "it's only 14 fucking seconds. Let me in the game. We could win that game" was another little bit I liked. LOL
I find it interesting the years I was seriously watching the NBA (1995-2003) were the years where cinema was at an insurmountable peak as well. Heat and Lost in Translation were the numerator and denominator in that equation. That glory period began in '95 and ended in '03.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on May 12, 2020 14:51:48 GMT
Can’t believe there are only 2 episodes left. 7 & 8 were fantastic as expected. Love the deep dive on the minor slights that would drive Jordan and how he was at practice with his teammates. Also, the clip of him laughing at the video of Gary Payton was pure gold.
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Post by urbanpatrician on May 17, 2020 10:51:58 GMT
Just 2 episodes left. Episode 3+4 were definitely the peak for me, but I got a feeling it's about to conclude with another one. The Pacers series in 1998 was one of my favorite series watching on TV at the time. That series went to a nailbiting Game 7, and I remember distinctly in my memory that Michael Jordan promised a win - and delivered, obviously. Amazing him and his team still had enough stamina to take down a far better rested Jazz team just a couple of days later. Anyways... this episode is gonna lead directly into the Pacers, and especially into the epic finale with the Jazz in '98. That was must-see TV at its peak.
Watching Episode 8 with Gary Payton and the Sonics, I have a hard time believing the Warriors could beat the Bulls. The Bulls in '96 was 87-13 for the whole year. They played the Magic for the Eastern Conference Finals, which was the dominant conference at the time. That Magic team was the same as the one that sent the Bulls home a year ago that had Shaq, Hardaway, Nick Anderson, and Horace Grant and Jordan absolutely annihilated them. The Magic were easily good enough to win the championship any other year, with a roster loaded with some of the best young talents.... Shaq was averaging 29.1 points per game and yet they still had no signs of any proclivities of winning against the Bulls.
Shaq was obviously better than Longley, Nick Anderson/Penny Hardaway clearly superior to Ron Harper, so it seemed like a pretty even talent match-up to me, and yet the Bulls still ripped them apart. I gotta give props to the Sonics for winning Game 4 and Game 5 convincingly. That was the weakest the Bulls looked all year, but also because the Sonics had Gary Payton, that nosy little pest - an MVP candidate at the time, but Jordan eventually figured him out after Payton got the better of him for 2 games.
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Post by Lubezki on May 18, 2020 4:12:16 GMT
This is one of the greatest documentaries ever made, period. And it was made even better by that... DiCaprio cameo
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Post by urbanpatrician on May 18, 2020 4:33:33 GMT
Shit. Utah fans or the Jazz organization tried to poison Michael Jordan with that pizza delivery. It all makes sense now. No way he'd suddenly have a random food poisoning attack like that out of nowhere, or what the media called "the flu game."
He got that poisoning while at Salt Lake City btw, and had to play on that day in Salt Lake City, again.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on May 18, 2020 14:04:31 GMT
Sad that it’s over but what a phenomenal treat to have this for the last 5 weeks. A truly bright spot in dire times. Bravo to all involved and awesome of ESPN to move this up fro. Their original June premier date. I will certainly be rewatching this, probably sooner than later.
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Post by ibbi on May 19, 2020 9:54:26 GMT
Was one of the most beautifully watchable things produced in recent times. The fractured structure worked incredibly well, wasn't sure it would at the beginning. I think they also did a great job producing a decently well rounded piece of work considering how by the balls Jordan clearly had them.
Reliving these glory days was a joy, easily one of the greatest sports docs I've ever seen, made all the greater by the focus on these guys lives off the court also, and the heavy inclusion of so many of the other great players of the era too.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Apr 4, 2021 5:37:14 GMT
Finally got around to watching this because I only recently discovered it existed while looking at people’s best of 2020 lists a few months ago. I was a pretty young kid during the Bulls’ dynasty, and while I was aware of who Michael Jordan was at the time (like everyone else), I never watched any of the games. My dad wasn’t really into basketball, so since the only sports I watched were whatever he was watching, it was mostly baseball and football games for me. I was a fan of Space Jam though, which inspired me to get a Bulls sweatshirt at some point even though I had never seen a single Bulls game. So as someone who has only had a passing interest in basketball because of Michael Jordan, I found this to be incredibly engrossing. Going into it, I only knew the “what” of that era, so I loved being able to experience the “how” with this level of depth since it’s always been something I wish I was able to follow more closely as a young kid. It’s crazy just how cinematic this story is - it literally felt like watching 8 hours of real-life Rocky: overcoming the Pistons is Rocky 1 and 2, coming back with a vengeance in ‘96 after losing to Orlando the year before to win the first championship since the death of Jordan’s father is Rocky 3 (I also love that he was busy rebuilding his body after playing baseball WHILE filming Space Jam). And then there’s moments that somehow manage to be suspenseful even when we already know the outcome, like when Jordan insists on playing in spite of his foot injury and the threat that that it could end his career prematurely, and later overcoming being sick with food poisoning during the ’97 championship... it’s like the universe conspired to give Michael Jordan’s life a story that was made for the movies. Never knew about the controversy over MJ’s refusal to publicly support Gnatt and the “Republicans buy Nikes too” comment. Listening to Obama give his take on it, I couldn’t help but think of the similar thematic ideas dealt with in One Night in Miami – the social responsibility of the artist/celebrity, navigating fame and how you choose to implement the power you have. Can definitely see myself watching this again at some point, and that very rarely happens with docs. When are we getting one of these about Gretzky and the Oilers dynasty??
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Post by sirchuck23 on Apr 5, 2021 16:28:49 GMT
Finally got around to watching this because I only recently discovered it existed while looking at people’s best of 2020 lists a few months ago. I was a pretty young kid during the Bulls’ dynasty, and while I was aware of who Michael Jordan was at the time (like everyone else), I never watched any of the games. My dad wasn’t really into basketball, so since the only sports I watched were whatever he was watching, it was mostly baseball and football games for me. I was a fan of Space Jam though, which inspired me to get a Bulls sweatshirt at some point even though I had never seen a single Bulls game. So as someone who has only had a passing interest in basketball because of Michael Jordan, I found this to be incredibly engrossing. Going into it, I only knew the “what” of that era, so I loved being able to experience the “how” with this level of depth since it’s always been something I wish I was able to follow more closely as a young kid. It’s crazy just how cinematic this story is - it literally felt like watching 8 hours of real-life Rocky: overcoming the Pistons is Rocky 1 and 2, coming back with a vengeance in ‘96 after losing to Orlando the year before to win the first championship since the death of Jordan’s father is Rocky 3 (I also love that he was busy rebuilding his body after playing baseball WHILE filming Space Jam). And then there’s moments that somehow manage to be suspenseful even when we already know the outcome, like when Jordan insists on playing in spite of his foot injury and the threat that that it could end his career prematurely, and later overcoming being sick with food poisoning during the ’97 championship... it’s like the universe conspired to give Michael Jordan’s life a story that was made for the movies. Never knew about the controversy over MJ’s refusal to publicly support Gnatt and the “Republicans buy Nikes too” comment. Listening to Obama give his take on it, I couldn’t help but think of the similar thematic ideas dealt with in One Night in Miami – the social responsibility of the artist/celebrity, navigating fame and how you choose to implement the power you have. Can definitely see myself watching this again at some point, and that very rarely happens with docs. When are we getting one of these about Gretzky and the Oilers dynasty?? Never thought of his career like that before, but you're right..it is very cinematic. Even going back to his childhood/high school years where he got cut from the Varsity team.
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