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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 3:55:02 GMT
Somehow I never got around to this during its original run, but I started binging this while in self-isolation early last week, and I'm already finished with Season 4.
Please, share your thoughts - do you love it? Hate it? It kind of seems like there's no in-between.
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Post by cheesecake on Mar 30, 2020 4:37:45 GMT
I watched the entire thing out of morbid curiosity, I guess. What incredibly flawed people.  Ignoring Dunham being a garbage person for a moment, it has great cinematography, a fantastic soundtrack and memorable guest stars, but Driver is the only upside to the whole thing. |
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 30, 2020 15:06:31 GMT
First season was good... and then it takes one of the biggest nosedives of a TV show ever. I kept going with it until it got to the first or second episode of the last season. I just couldn't believe any of it. I was already LONG gone trying to justify Marnie's anything by that point or Hannah's anything... but by that point Shosh and Adam were both getting to those low points. Hannah getting pregnant made me throw my hands up in defeat and ultimately never finish, despite sticking with it for as long as I did. |
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Post by cheesecake on Mar 30, 2020 15:46:53 GMT
First season was good... and then it takes one of the biggest nosedives of a TV show ever. I kept going with it until it got to the first or second episode of the last season. I just couldn't believe any of it. I was already LONG gone trying to justify Marnie's anything by that point or Hannah's anything... but by that point Shosh and Adam were both getting to those low points. Hannah getting pregnant made me throw my hands up in defeat and ultimately never finish, despite sticking with it for as long as I did. She named her baby Grover. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 15:52:23 GMT
theycallmemrfish , cheesecake - I will check the spoilers once I finish and get back to you  , but I did want to say that I basically hate all of the characters but still find the show kind of hilarious?
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 30, 2020 16:13:14 GMT
First season was good... and then it takes one of the biggest nosedives of a TV show ever. I kept going with it until it got to the first or second episode of the last season. I just couldn't believe any of it. I was already LONG gone trying to justify Marnie's anything by that point or Hannah's anything... but by that point Shosh and Adam were both getting to those low points. Hannah getting pregnant made me throw my hands up in defeat and ultimately never finish, despite sticking with it for as long as I did. She named her baby Grover.  |
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Post by Allenism on Mar 31, 2020 12:42:10 GMT
The first two seasons are solid, and there some pretty good episodes sprinkled throughout the remaining three (I sat out the final season), but as a whole the series definitely had more troughs than peaks. Dunham is a talented writer when she wants to be, but she also seems to make the some few points relentlessly. I'd say that even at its worst, the acting (especially from Driver, Kirk, Kaprovsky, and occasionally Williams) is what saved the show from falling off a cliff entirely.
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Post by Zeb31 on Apr 2, 2020 3:43:01 GMT
I remember watching the first season in like a week back in 2013, and liking it a lot. Then I binged season 2 the following weekend, and though it was less consistent it did have higher highs.
Then I let something like two years pass by before finally returning to catch up on season 3, and I quit that halfway through without ever looking back. I'm not sure why I had such an intensely different reaction to it compared to the first two, but I still vividly remember feeling absolutely exhausted at the end of each episode, like spending half an hour in the company of these horrible people felt like four times as much.
Beach House was my last episode; not because it was so bad that I just had to abandon the whole thing, but because I had no idea what else Dunham could possibly have to say about these characters that would be worthy of attention. I just didn't know where else the show could be taken after that (admittedly well-crafted) torture session, because I saw no logical reason for any of these horrendously shallow and manipulative people to keep each other around.
I don't viscerally hate Lena Dunham or anything; I'm mostly just surprised that outside of a thankless cameo in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood she has basically disappeared following Girls' whimper of a finale. For all the hype and accolades she got back in 2012, I imagined she would've been able to get another high profile project off the ground at this point. (I'm getting flashbacks to Hannah Horvath finally publishing her first book and then realizing she'd need another 20-something years of life experience before she had new subjects to write about without repeating herself.) But yeah, Girls was just too tiresome and upsetting to be worthwhile past season 2. Too grueling with no payoff for me.
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Post by bob-coppola on Apr 2, 2020 4:20:29 GMT
I quit it in the last bunch of episodes from season 5. I liked it a lot, I think Dunham is a very good writer. But it got to a point in which that story and those characters just overstayed their welcome. It was still a pleasant watch for me, but you could easily see that Dunham lost sight of who those people originally were and where they were aiming for.
It's not that changing and growing is bad, but I think the case for Girls is that it lasted more than it should to the point she'd have to either repeat herself or just get so far away from where it should be. Marnie became pointless and lost all of her initial charm. Jessa became too redundant, even if a compelling character. Shosh was pretty much rebooted, but that was for the best. Overall, I just think Lena Dunham ran out of things to say about being a newly grown-up millennial, at least with that set of characters - and those commentaries were the best part of the show. When it became basically a soap opera with better costumes and DP, it just kind of lost its glow to me.
After season 2, it kind of became a rollercoaster. I didn't really like most of the character developments, but some specific episodes were just so, so good. Beach House was, as unlikable its quartet was, a very clever bottle episode. One Man's Trash was like a live-action New Yorker short story, and I consider it one of my favorite TV episodes.
I'll eventually get around to see the last season, tho, as I got so far and heard pretty good things about the finale from my friends.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 15:54:00 GMT
Finished the entire thing last night. I hate to hear that a lot of you guys gave up on it - I personally love it. It really isn't consistent tonally and its characterizations don't always make perfect narrative sense, but for me, it is consistently hilarious. It just perfectly aligns with my sense of humor. I hope you guys will give it another try at some point.  |
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Post by ibbi on Apr 2, 2020 18:57:56 GMT
My memory of it is vague from year to year. I remember thinking that the first season was FANTASTIC, and it earned it so much good will that I stuck with it fairly happily even as it became apparent that she didn't really have much else in the tank to continue with. Still, there were some standout episodes now and then that kept you to some degree on side, and the occasional good guest star that helped also. Kirke was great (her fewer appearances the longer it went sucked), so was Driver, Karpovsky too, Rannells when he came along, and both the parents. It was also amazing watching Williams grow across the course of the show from the clearly incompetent member of the ensemble to the most respectable member of her family on television.
I do remember there was one season, I want to say it was the penultimate one... The one that ended with a freeze frame on Hannah, that was really good, and really made me think it should have just ended there, but also made me sort of hopeful that she'd knock the final season out of the park when it came along, which aside from a moment or too she really didn't do. Should have ended it a year earlier.
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Post by LaraQ on Apr 3, 2020 12:13:14 GMT
I bailed after season 3,I started to find it really annoying.Now I've got a bit of time on my hands I might try and finish the last 3 seasons.
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Post by AKenjiB on Apr 8, 2020 9:25:44 GMT
A show with a lot of ups and downs but I watched it to the end without it ever becoming a huge strain to get through. Lena Dunham’s performance/character was never my favorite but the rest of the cast is pretty great and I enjoyed much of the cringe humor.
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Ignoring Dunham being a garbage person for a moment, it has great cinematography, a fantastic soundtrack and memorable guest stars, but Driver is the only upside to the whole thing.
, but I did want to say that I basically hate all of the characters but still find the show kind of hilarious? 
