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Post by dadsburgers on Jul 12, 2020 21:35:18 GMT
Tammy Duckworth or Kamala Harris
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Post by hugobolso on Jul 14, 2020 14:51:55 GMT
Thankfully no.......too young to assume office so not eligible this year. 35 minimum age Biden's wife should be the best candidate. At least she could defend him for the lefties.-
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 11, 2020 11:04:51 GMT
Bumping this thread since this should be today or tomorrow....I think he's taking too long and making this a bigger issue than he needs to......and he's starting to look bullied around too now, which is not a good look tbh.....
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Post by cherry68 on Aug 11, 2020 13:37:44 GMT
Bumping this thread since this should be today or tomorrow....I think he's taking too long and making this a bigger issue than he needs to......and he's starting to look bullied around too now, which is not a good look tbh..... He probably forgot he has to choose someone... Maybe he thinks he could run for vice-president too.
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Post by Film Socialism on Aug 11, 2020 19:36:46 GMT
sleepy joe will probably announce someone who isn't even eligible and/or not remember their names properly i'm still holding out for this one from dementia joe but i feel like whatever happens will be funny in some way lol him announcing a male running mate would actually be pretty great, he's been saying he was gonna do a woman for months now
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Aug 11, 2020 20:30:53 GMT
It's Kamala. Not surprised at all.
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Post by Film Socialism on Aug 11, 2020 20:44:36 GMT
lmao i mean yeah unsurprising but choosing a cop in the midst of the biggest nationwide protest against them....u gotta admire it on some level. malarkey!
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Post by JangoB on Aug 11, 2020 20:46:35 GMT
So if he wins (which seems likely), when do we think he steps down and Harris steps in? In six months? Or less?
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Post by dazed on Aug 11, 2020 20:57:47 GMT
Not surprised one bit.
Fuck this pick though.
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Post by Archie on Aug 11, 2020 21:00:39 GMT
10,000 IQ move by Biden because now Pence’s wife has to be on stage with him during the VP debate.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Aug 11, 2020 21:10:42 GMT
Can't wait for the Democratic Party to lose the 2022 midterms and for someone like Larry Hogan to win the Presidency in 2024. This just proves we're still at least 8 years away from an actual progressive party in America.
He chose a fucking cop in the middle of #DefundThePolice. Welcome to The Lincoln Project Party.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Aug 11, 2020 21:18:58 GMT
This is the point where true Dems either jump to voting Trump or not at all. I think the Harris nomination definitely shakes things up more than the Kaine pick would with Clinton.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 11, 2020 21:33:03 GMT
For anybody who doesn't ever read James Woods Twitter if you just give it a quick look you'll see how Trump will likely play this, (Woods isn't a fan of Kamala to say the least)....I would like to see her be a better campaigner than she was - it will be weird since the GOP spin will be "Biden is not going to make it 4 years, do you want her as your President" - that's a very specific and odd argument and nobody votes for VP theoretically but 2020 is so f'd in every other way up your not sure what will stick.....or that will stick to her.....or what she can just brush off.
I would have liked a little helping in a battleground state which are tightening up a bit ......
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Post by flasuss on Aug 12, 2020 1:46:59 GMT
Harris is really the most rational choice Biden could have picked- it will push Trump even more into racist and sexist tactics, while not scaring the more moderate Democrats or even anti-Trump Republicans. The Bernie bros will complain, but they would complain about anything anyway.
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Post by Joaquim on Aug 12, 2020 1:58:25 GMT
Imagine saying you’re for blm or defunding the police (or at least reforming the system) then voting for the guy who picked an actual fucking cop who was more than happy to throw you in jail for having a few grams of weed as vp
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Post by dazed on Aug 12, 2020 2:07:13 GMT
Harris is really the most rational choice Biden could have picked- it will push Trump even more into racist and sexist tactics, while not scaring the more moderate Democrats or even anti-Trump Republicans. The Bernie bros will complain, but they would complain about anything anyway. There’s a lot more people than just the ‘Bernie bros’ (I hate that term) that aren’t fans of Kamala. She laughed about legalizing weed in 2014 (as well as put over 1500 people in jail for marijuana offenses), she backtracked on her medicare for all support, she failed to prosecute Steve Mnuchin, and has hid evidence of innocent people. In any sane country, her record alone as a prosecutor would’ve denied her of even being a thought for the Vice President position.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 2:33:49 GMT
Harris is really the most rational choice Biden could have picked- it will push Trump even more into racist and sexist tactics, while not scaring the more moderate Democrats or even anti-Trump Republicans. The Bernie bros will complain, but they would complain about anything anyway. There’s a lot more people than just the ‘Bernie bros’ (I hate that term) that aren’t fans of Kamala. She laughed about legalizing weed in 2014 (as well as put over 1500 people in jail for marijuana offenses), she backtracked on her medicare for all support, she failed to prosecute Steve Mnuchin, and has hid evidence of innocent people. In any sane country, her record alone as a prosecutor would’ve denied her of even being a thought for the Vice President position. Yeah I’ll take being considered someone who “complains about everything” in this demented country over “doesn’t actually care about anything”. The whole “Bernie bro” argument being that they suck because they won’t settle for the usual obvious bullshit is so bizarre.
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Post by flasuss on Aug 12, 2020 2:58:47 GMT
Look, of course there's lots of arguments that can be made against Harris,many of them reasonable. But there's a lot of arguments that could be made against literally any other choice, and most of them would add less to the ticket or cause more trouble. The kind of people that think Harris is too conservative in her views on crime would never vote for Trump in the first place, and that's why she's the best choice.
When you have the most inept person in history in charge of the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world, to stop all the time complaining that your VP choice isn't perfect is being a complete imbecile, and it's the kind of thing that made Hillary lose in the first place.
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Post by quetee on Aug 12, 2020 3:31:14 GMT
Why not just say, oh, I didn't know that and move on.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 12, 2020 5:37:30 GMT
Pretty smart choice for Biden. Locks down the black vote for sure, but I'm definitely conflicted. There's been lots of buzz over Harris being the first woman of color to be picked as a running mate (and only the third woman overall, which is insane), but I wish he'd have picked Stacey Abrams who might have given him more headway in Texas/Georgia and has done so much boots-on-the-ground work in those states to combat voter suppression. Harris is an ex-prosecutor with a spotty record in a current environment that's very leery of law enforcement.
I guess Abrams was too regional and low-profile but I'd feel better if her name was on the ticket.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 12, 2020 6:02:49 GMT
of interest: Kamala Harris' lifetime ratings & political positionsthe most interesting scores: ACLU - 93% Human Rights Campaign (LGBTQ issues) - 100% League of Conservation Voters (environmental issues) - 91% NAACP - 100% NARAL and Planned Parenthood - 100% (pro-choice) National Association of Police Organizations - 100% (this group just endorsed Trump last month ) NRA - 7% (good low number) re: marijuana: Harris' views on marijuana legalization evolved between 2010 and 2015. She opposed 2010 California Proposition 19 (along with the majority of voters) but called for an end to the federal prohibition on medical marijuana in 2015, and in 2018 petitioned for the removal of cannabis from the Controlled Substance Act. Seems to me the record indicates a decided shift on this issue. re: law enforcement: after looking into her record I'm actually starting to question whether her past will be an issue at all. Her record on nonviolent convictions and sentencing seems to have been slightly spotty in the early 2010s but since 2015 it seems that she's been aggressively working towards more accountability in law enforcement (not to mention the legalization advocacy). The info is all in that wiki page, but for instance her California Department of Justice was " the first statewide agency in the country to require all of its police officers to wear body cameras." Lots more info there, but I won't have an issue voting for a Biden/Harris ticket at all. All candidates would have flaws and I think Harris' good points outweigh her bad by a good stretch. She has positive marks on most of the issues American liberals care about.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 12, 2020 6:07:09 GMT
anyways, at least it wasn't Susan Rice
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Post by tobias on Aug 12, 2020 13:39:40 GMT
I mean Biden being elected is almost inevitable. He could have chosen an old smelly shoe as VP and it wouldn't really impact things down the road. I just wish he would have picked someone who wasn't a shoe-in for 2024 - which included a lot of the potential options. Some of them were worse than Harris but them standing for 2024 would have been way more shaky (like Rice or Duckworth).
So yeah, American politics be like "play stupid games, win stupid prizes", same as always.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Aug 12, 2020 14:23:48 GMT
So if he wins (which seems likely), when do we think he steps down and Harris steps in? In six months? Or less? Do people actually believe this?
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Aug 12, 2020 14:26:50 GMT
This is a great VP pick by Biden,. Sorry for those that don’t like her and want someone super progressive but Harris gives Biden the best shot to defeat Trump which is the only thing that matters right now.
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