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Post by Good God on Dec 13, 2020 20:03:53 GMT
Anjelica Huston turned down Roman Polanski's Death and the Maiden (the role that won Glenn Close a Tony on Broadway) back in '94 in order to do TV's Buffalo Girls. I doubt Huston actually turned that down. I think it's more likely Huston was turned away in favor of Weaver for financing reasons.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Dec 13, 2020 20:17:47 GMT
I’m only skeptical that veins the case it’s Robbie replacing her. Robbie pretty much has he pick of any project she wants and also makes pretty good decisions for the most part at this point. Robbie has made some questionable script/project choices recently though. She made Dreamland and Terminal, both in the last two years. Films that went nowhere, got weak/terrible reviews and box office and most of us probably haven't even seen. Her making these disasters (where she is the lead) got covered up or ignored by her being in more successful higher profile ensemble projects ( Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, Bombshell etc). But Robbie has been dropping some duds lately. She may not neccesarily care about the quality of the script for Babylon, and just hopes that it will turn out well because Chazelle is a respected young auteur with a strong track record so far. Robbie's decision making is very much a mixed bag at this point. She seems to have a very "hit and hope" approach to project selection (she also said yes to Barbie, which sight unseen sounds like a pretty questionable project, but we'll see).. She made Terminal 4 1/2 years ago, but yes it was a miss. I’ve heard pretty positive things about Dreamland but haven’t seen it yet. Also disagree that Barbie is a questionable project.
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Post by Good God on Dec 13, 2020 20:52:22 GMT
Margot Robbie filmed both Terminal and Dreamland before she got her first Oscar-nomination for I, Tonya, when she wasn't quite as respected and didn't have the pick of projects that she has now. Also:
1. Babylon is going to be directed by Chazelle; not Stein or Joris-Peyrafitte. 2. Brad Pitt is doing Babylon, and he's one of the best project-pickers in Hollywood. 3. Leonardo DiCaprio said Babylon had a great script on a podcast with Pitt, and he's also one of the best project-pickers in Hollywood.
Not to mention, a bunch of people on AW have read the script for Babylon and they're all positive on it. Terminal and Dreamland are clown comparisons.
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Post by stinkybritches on Dec 14, 2020 19:38:51 GMT
Yeah, same. I think Stone is showing much more ambition in pursuing offbeat fare that could pay off majorly, rather than sticking to known quantities. I mean, it's still a TV series, not a good move for a movie actress career wise. it's 2020, not the '90s, dipshit.
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 2, 2023 22:52:42 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 12, 2023 17:12:03 GMT
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Oct 12, 2023 18:48:37 GMT
Robbie has made some questionable script/project choices recently though. She made Dreamland and Terminal, both in the last two years. Films that went nowhere, got weak/terrible reviews and box office and most of us probably haven't even seen. Her making these disasters (where she is the lead) got covered up or ignored by her being in more successful higher profile ensemble projects ( Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, Bombshell etc). But Robbie has been dropping some duds lately. She may not neccesarily care about the quality of the script for Babylon, and just hopes that it will turn out well because Chazelle is a respected young auteur with a strong track record so far. Robbie's decision making is very much a mixed bag at this point. She seems to have a very "hit and hope" approach to project selection (she also said yes to Barbie, which sight unseen sounds like a pretty questionable project, but we'll see).. She made Terminal 4 1/2 years ago, but yes it was a miss. I’ve heard pretty positive things about Dreamland but haven’t seen it yet. Also disagree that Barbie is a questionable project.This aged well
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 13, 2023 18:39:48 GMT
5 star review from Caryn James - often a great critic in the UK - and there's not a lot of those - looking at you fnckwad Robbie Collin........how old are you anyway? What kind of a grown man calls himself "Robbie"?. - besides Robertson I mean ....GTFO - great word from its NYFF unveiling is out there floating around: www.bbc.com/culture/article/20231013-the-curse-review-emma-stone-comes-up-trumps-again-in-this-brilliantly-unsettling-new-television-comedyFielder and Stone play Asher and Whitney Siegel, who hope their house-flipping series, called Philanthropy, will make them the next Chip and Joanna Gaines but with a do-gooder gloss, becoming famous while bringing jobs and eco-friendly homes to a community beset by unemployment and gentrification. The first three episodes shown at the New York Film Festival go well beyond that to encompass the falseness of television and the duplicity in relationships, as well as white privilege and trust issues, all presented with wry humour. The Curse is the kind of comedy whose funny moments pop up reassuringly, distractions from how deliberately off-kilter it keeps you.
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Post by stephen on Oct 14, 2023 13:17:08 GMT
So it looks like the reviews are very positive for this project, and specifically for Emma Stone. So much for it being a bad choice to bow out of Babylon. But on a serious note, this could bode very well for her in the way it did for McConaughey in 2013.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Oct 19, 2023 14:18:37 GMT
But on a serious note, this could bode very well for her in the way it did for McConaughey in 2013. imagine if she won two Globes for best actress this year. Has that ever happened?? And with Jean Smart out of the race this year she's got a definite path.
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Post by stephen on Oct 19, 2023 14:25:59 GMT
But on a serious note, this could bode very well for her in the way it did for McConaughey in 2013. imagine if she won two Globes for best actress this year. Has that ever happened?? And with Jean Smart out of the race this year she's got a definite path. Helen Mirren did in 2006.
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 2, 2023 21:12:22 GMT
5 star review from Caryn James - often a great critic in the UK - and there's not a lot of those - looking at you fnckwad Robbie Collin........how old are you anyway? What kind of a grown man calls himself "Robbie"?. - besides Robertson I mean ....GTFO - great word from its NYFF unveiling is out there floating around: www.bbc.com/culture/article/20231013-the-curse-review-emma-stone-comes-up-trumps-again-in-this-brilliantly-unsettling-new-television-comedyFielder and Stone play Asher and Whitney Siegel, who hope their house-flipping series, called Philanthropy, will make them the next Chip and Joanna Gaines but with a do-gooder gloss, becoming famous while bringing jobs and eco-friendly homes to a community beset by unemployment and gentrification. The first three episodes shown at the New York Film Festival go well beyond that to encompass the falseness of television and the duplicity in relationships, as well as white privilege and trust issues, all presented with wry humour. The Curse is the kind of comedy whose funny moments pop up reassuringly, distractions from how deliberately off-kilter it keeps you.A litte tease a week before its debut:
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 6, 2023 22:15:29 GMT
5 star review from Caryn James - often a great critic in the UK - and there's not a lot of those - looking at you fnckwad Robbie Collin........how old are you anyway? What kind of a grown man calls himself "Robbie"?. - besides Robertson I mean ....GTFO - great word from its NYFF unveiling is out there floating around: www.bbc.com/culture/article/20231013-the-curse-review-emma-stone-comes-up-trumps-again-in-this-brilliantly-unsettling-new-television-comedyFielder and Stone play Asher and Whitney Siegel, who hope their house-flipping series, called Philanthropy, will make them the next Chip and Joanna Gaines but with a do-gooder gloss, becoming famous while bringing jobs and eco-friendly homes to a community beset by unemployment and gentrification. The first three episodes shown at the New York Film Festival go well beyond that to encompass the falseness of television and the duplicity in relationships, as well as white privilege and trust issues, all presented with wry humour. The Curse is the kind of comedy whose funny moments pop up reassuringly, distractions from how deliberately off-kilter it keeps you.Starts at 86% off 14 reviews RT www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_curse_2023/s01
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 10, 2023 21:25:52 GMT
s1, e1Not funny exactly but more a show about an encroaching uncomfortableness in how it plays on you and the vague unsatisfaction on the 2 leads. The tension is palpable....... What can you say about a show that discusses little dicks, pissing on tomatoes, giving kids money (inappropriate!), exploitation of the sick and ugly (for lack of a better term). If that's not enough Emma Stone uses a vibrator and yeah it's hot......I mean "well acted" ........fascinating aesthetic template of chronic white liberal skewering (they aren't "homeless" they're "unhoused")........very well played though you may wonder for what purpose.....you won't be bored though.......
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Post by stephen on Nov 11, 2023 13:50:40 GMT
This is off to an anxiety-riddled start, and I am loving it. Fielder has sort of a Jason Bateman in The Gift vibe going here, where there is an undercurrent of steely malice churning beneath the surface, and I feel it's only going to get worse from here. Stone is luminous as always (and yes, there is a frisson of delight associated with getting to hear her scream my name in climax multiple times in this episode, haha) and gets to show why she is such a dominant force on the acting field, and Benny Safdie continues to carve out a niche of being a strong director-turned-character actor in the vein of Herzog and Lynch.
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Post by speeders on Nov 14, 2023 17:26:30 GMT
I admit, I was a bit skeptical about this (esp. after hearing atrocious things about the pilot script) and not particularly looking forward to it but I half heartedly decided to give the first episode a shot and from the opening scene I was hooked. It's simple but feels fresh and really biting. Fielder and Safdie are fun (despite not having a lot of range yet... but are well cast) but Emma Stone stole the show, she tapped into something more sinister than what we've seen from her before. The score is stunning too and calls back Uncut Gems in the best possible way.
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 17, 2023 8:10:34 GMT
S1, E2Far more fleshed out episode as opposed to the E1 intro sketch: Stone and Safdie have dynamite individual big scenes (both btw about their bodies and what's happening to them) and the ending is creepy ominous - also there's a funny / not funny Yoko Ono-esque art exhibit that asks the big queston " why would you do that?" This episode is actually better watched if you really observe the distancing devices that give the show its off-balance aesthetic: Cars whzzing by, conversations cut off by music, the eerie, kaleidescope pregnancy test screen , literal glass houses and refracted images, characters not making eye contact, or kept apart by spacing within the frame when they do make contact - characters walking ahead or away from others.........empty chairs .....and empty spaces........etc Really interesting visual design......
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 24, 2023 7:06:27 GMT
s1, e3The best of the 3 episodes so far - and a perfect example of what I said above ^ about the shows fantastic visual design: Watch 2 scenes: @18:57 Stone's body is shown bifurcated by a column and at 22:43 Safdie's is too......as in cut off from their bodies in a jarring way.....which is symbolically related to episode 2 but in a more ominous manner These scenes are the most pronounced by the show but the episode does this idea repeatedly - and then does it narratively too: A fake job is replaced with a worse fake job.....a joke involving Stone's sweater is "restaged" to a rather pathetic effect.... a fight recontextualizes the implicit earlier racism in Stone's character and that Fielder "sees" in Stone too .........unsaid .......until he says it here.....a bifurcated work/ life idea, a bifurcated marriage also...... All the episodes have been good.....but episode 3 was rather brilliant
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 1, 2023 10:31:44 GMT
S1, E4Really peaking now - a tremendously odd episode that starts mysteriously and ends achingly unfunny and grotesquely horrifying and suggests that Fielder may rage kill Stone........or somebody..........some day. Safdie is memorable here dealing with a Curse of his own, a hinted at spending problem and deep self-loathng and his own spin on Fielder's inner rage and suffered indignities ...... Superb episode .......again ........and Episodes 3 & 4 pull off of details in Episodes 1 & 2 in ways that I thought the show had given up on.........
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 8, 2023 12:48:39 GMT
S1, E5An Emma Stone tour de force and an amazingly complex shot near the end where Asher and Whitney walk - concealed by fencing and branches and nature and then "disappear" behind the milky glass of a door .........the visual palette / design is at an all-time GOAT level. Particularly because this is not science fiction or anything genre based where that makes it "easier" - The visual design of The Curse is used not only to comment on the narrative.......but often comments AGAINST it too..... The saddest episode so far .....
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Post by paulgallo on Dec 8, 2023 19:01:34 GMT
So it looks like the reviews are very positive for this project, and specifically for Emma Stone. So much for it being a bad choice to bow out of Babylon. But on a serious note, this could bode very well for her in the way it did for McConaughey in 2013. This comment seems to be tongue in cheek but I'd still like to clarify that she didn't bow out of Babylon because of this project but because of Poor Things. Babylon was initially planned for a 2020 shoot but when covid happened it was delayed to the summer of 2021 which was the same time frame in which Poor Things was scheduled to shoot. With Emma being a producer on the latter it was clear that she would choose that one over Babylon so I wouldn't interpret it as some sort of sentiment against Chazelle's script. I believe she would have liked to make both films if it had been possible.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 9, 2023 19:28:19 GMT
pacinoyes I haven't seen this yet but I know it was billed as a comedy so I was surprised it was submitted in drama for the Globes. What do you think of that categorization? at the very least it'll probably prevent Stone from getting two wins, because comedy actress was wide open.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 9, 2023 20:18:16 GMT
pacinoyes I haven't seen this yet but I know it was billed as a comedy so I was surprised it was submitted in drama for the Globes. What do you think of that categorization?at the very least it'll probably prevent Stone from getting two wins, because comedy actress was wide open. I think it's a problem not just for awards shows but in how it's taken by general audiences who would likely push back on that label. I'd have gone drama because comedy sort of undermines how this material actually plays on a viewer and how stories are set in their arc imo. Some initial comic elements are usually subverted later to something far darker.... The show basically is made for people who are already on its narrow wavelength - and shuts out those who are not - .......since it is basically about uncomfortableness - and like in real life when people maybe wrongly laugh to diffuse that awkward feeling - the show does that for you in a way I guess......but that isn't the same as "comedy" in any traditional sense. It is very much an overtly A24, "relevant" show -a class consciousness show........we had a thread where that subject has come up (Saltburn, Triaingle of Sadness, The Menu) - in so much modern Art post-Parasite - but The Curse is the most subtle, and hardest to read of all I would say - and it asks you to identify with some truly misguided (at best) 3 main characters........ The show is 94% RT Critics and 31% Audience - so I thnk there's a lot of not getting this show or being baffled a bit by it........it's a cult classic in the making with the caveat that I'm not sure how long they can sustain the show......or sustain it without it becoming (far) less subtle about how awful they are......
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Post by stephen on Dec 9, 2023 23:56:37 GMT
Five episodes in and it is certainly one of the most uncomfortable viewing experiences I've had in a long time, and it's only ratcheting the uneasy tension with every passing minute. I feel like I can see the inevitable car crash coming, and I'm powerless to stop it, and full credit to Stone/Fielder/Safdie for being able to just keep on raising the stakes and twisting the knife buried in my gut.
This most recent episode was a powerhouse one for Stone, and I'm frankly glad it's not running Comedy even though it is absolutely a satire. There's no joy in this, no fun that we have at these characters' expense, and that's a compliment. This is watching human disintegration and destruction by inches, and I can only imagine the misery waiting in the finale.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 15, 2023 11:35:37 GMT
s1, e6Another shot of Fielder's (faux?) little cock, nearly 15 minutes (?!?) - before we get to the show intro, a great horrible chiropractic session with Barkhad Abdi........Fielder almost litterally disintegrating before our eyes - visual motif, again - as he's pushed out and mocked At the beginning Safdie tells Stone they have a "frictionless" show and no one wants to watch it or come on to MAR when it is frictionless.........that was a joke........friction is coming though........the blood is already here Dick Joke......Imagine the size of that fire hose huh?:
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