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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 12, 2020 19:26:56 GMT
I used to symphatize with Rose , but now she truly sounds like a hateful and bitter witch . I thought she was all about women supporting each other ? But all she did thus far is tearing her fellow actresses down. You're a big part of the problem too Rose , so get off your high horse.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 19:30:22 GMT
HELENA MARIA - Don't forget that McGowan also attacked Streep in the midst of the Weinstein scandal. Women attacking other women is NOT feminism.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 12, 2020 19:35:27 GMT
HELENA MARIA - Don't forget that McGowan also attacked Streep in the midst of the Weinstein scandal. Women attacking other women is NOT feminism. Rose Mcgowan worked with a convicted rapist (director Victor Salva) about a decade ago and she didn't give a fuck. So she has some fucking nerve to slam other actresses (including Meryl Streep and Alyssa Milano) for "protecting" (which they absolutely did not!) another sexual predator .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 19:38:42 GMT
HELENA MARIA - Don't forget that McGowan also attacked Streep in the midst of the Weinstein scandal. Women attacking other women is NOT feminism. Rose Mcgowan worked with a convicted rapist (director Victor Salva) about a decade ago and she didn't give a fuck. So she has some fucking nerve to slam other actresses (including Meryl Streep and Alyssa Milano) for "protecting" (which they absolutely did not!) another sexual predator . And also, she has her facts wrong. Portman has worked with five female directors: Marya Cohn, Mira Nair, Sofia Coppola, and Rebecca Zlotowski. She also tried to bring Patty Jenkins into the Marvel universe and hire Lynne Ramsay for Jane Got a Gun.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 12, 2020 19:43:46 GMT
Rose Mcgowan worked with a convicted rapist (director Victor Salva) about a decade ago and she didn't give a fuck. So she has some fucking nerve to slam other actresses (including Meryl Streep and Alyssa Milano) for "protecting" (which they absolutely did not!) another sexual predator . And also, she has her facts wrong. Portman has worked with five female directors: Marya Cohn, Mira Nair, Sofia Coppola, and Rebecca Zlotowski. She also tried to bring Patty Jenkins into the Marvel universe and hire Lynne Ramsay for Jane Got a Gun. Very true !
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Post by stephen on Feb 12, 2020 19:45:17 GMT
There was a protest? Wasn't Portman a presenter?
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 12, 2020 19:48:02 GMT
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Post by Savager on Feb 12, 2020 19:49:23 GMT
I'm not the biggest fan of Portman's off-screen persona, but I find Rose way more annoying.
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Post by stephen on Feb 12, 2020 19:50:04 GMT
Huh. Okay. I mean, that bypassed me completely.
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Post by quetee on Feb 12, 2020 20:08:12 GMT
Rose is annoying but she has a point. I say the same thing about diversity. People preach it but dont practice it and that is what she is saying. If you have the power to make a change rgen make it, dont just talk about it and that's it. It is disturbing that natalie would go out of her way to protest no female directors and her production company hired none.
Look at what Brad has done. Look at how diverse his production company is. Brad doesn't just preach.
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Post by ibbi on Feb 12, 2020 20:14:04 GMT
Rose McGowan is a whack ass motherfucker that used that whole moment and movement to try and make herself look like some god damn crusader and champion of the abused everywhere, when it turned out she just wanted to sell her reality show and her book Her calling anyone else out for being a fucking fraud is the laugh of the week.
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Post by bob-coppola on Feb 12, 2020 21:10:22 GMT
There's a brazilian actress called Paola Oliveira who once painted one of her nails white as a protest for peace and made a social media post about it. When I read a tweet about Natalie's dress last sunday, this came to my mind. She probably meant well, but like painting your nails for peace, it's an empty gesture and trying to make it more than it is looks... kind of stupid. I say this as a fan of Portman, as I truly see her as a very intelligent person. But this dress thing was cringey to me.
That said, even though I agree with McGowan's point and I understand that she certainly has many anger due to what happened to her, the press and media aren't therapy. She really should take some time off, deal with her problems away from the pressure of being a public figure. It's heartbreaking to see her like that.
It's also a poor political strategy to alienate the very same people who are more likely to embrace you and uplift what you have to say. To what audience is McGowan even talking to? The leftist, younger, "woke" crowd already took Portman's/MeToo's side, and anyone who disagrees with Portman's posture isn't likely to agree with McGowan either.
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Post by Lubezki on Feb 12, 2020 21:54:01 GMT
Portman’s response:
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 12, 2020 21:56:55 GMT
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Post by countjohn on Feb 13, 2020 7:39:24 GMT
Just make the movies you want to make. Unless you're specifically not doing parts because you don't want to work with a woman director I don't see what the problem is. This is not a legitimate criticism.
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Post by jimmalone on Feb 13, 2020 8:44:20 GMT
Just make the movies you want to make. Unless you're specifically not doing parts because you don't want to work with a woman director I don't see what the problem is. This is not a legitimate criticism. My thought as well. You can choose the projects you want, that are interesting to you and maybe include working people, who you appreciate. You shouldn't separate or choose between men and women, but between their character. So it's fine if you say you don't want to work with Roman Polanski or Woody Allen, but it doesn't make sense not to work with a respectable director, just because he's a man.
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Post by hugobolso on Feb 13, 2020 14:44:15 GMT
McCowan is crazy as hell, but this time has a point. For example I'm not a Kidman fan, but she worked with several femele directors since 1996.- Jodie Foster who also is a woman right activist work with femele directors since the 80s.-
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 17, 2020 16:35:48 GMT
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Feb 20, 2020 19:06:20 GMT
McGowan's style of career makeover activism has been seeming self-serving to me for awhile. I've seen her try to take credit for things, try to start a movement hashtag including her name, and much more that put me off. It seemed to me she began trying to make it more about herself than the female victims as a whole.
While the Hollywood elite can come across as phony or out of touch with their activism, I also think there is this element to Rose McGowan that is envious because she is not part of that A-list crowd. I've seen her repeatedly bash A-list celebrities for even the most harmless things.
How would she like it if she had people judge the way she handled things behind the screen too? Funny she always ignored tweeters who brought up her defense of that pedophile director, but she'd address tweets about other things. It's because she knows she's a hypocrite since she would bash the shit out of any A-list celebrity who did what she did.
And Natalie Portman has fought to get female directors jobs. I remember. In fact, I believe she even wanted to completely walk away from a film because they dismissed the female director. Do I have that wrong?
If that's true, isn't that using your power for good? Why bash your allies? This is my problem with people like McGowan. They always want you to pass their personal feminist test which is damn near impossible.
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Post by Good God on Feb 21, 2020 16:32:38 GMT
And also, she has her facts wrong. Portman has worked with five female directors: Marya Cohn, Mira Nair, Sofia Coppola, and Rebecca Zlotowski. This reads a little like obfuscation of the truth to me. Natalie Portman was protesting the lack of female directors in the (feature-length) Best Director category. All the names on her dress at the Oscars were of female directors that directed feature-length motion pictures; not shorts or Dior ads. How many female directors has she worked with in feature-length motion pictures? You mentioned that she worked with five female directors (even though you only listed out four). Of the four you mentioned, one of them was on a short, one of them was on a short film segment on an anthology film, and one of them was on a Dior ad, leaving out just Planetarium by Rebecca Zlotowski. Please correct me if I'm wrong in my facts, but that's just one by my count.
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Post by forksforest on Feb 25, 2020 15:58:38 GMT
And also, she has her facts wrong. Portman has worked with five female directors: Marya Cohn, Mira Nair, Sofia Coppola, and Rebecca Zlotowski. This reads a little like obfuscation of the truth to me. Natalie Portman was protesting the lack of female directors in the (feature-length) Best Director category. All the names on her dress at the Oscars were of female directors that directed feature-length motion pictures; not shorts or Dior ads. How many female directors has she worked with in feature-length motion pictures? You mentioned that she worked with five female directors (even though you only listed out four). Of the four you mentioned, one of them was on a short, one of them was on a short film segment on an anthology film, and one of them was on a Dior ad, leaving out just Planetarium by Rebecca Zlotowski. Please correct me if I'm wrong in my facts, but that's just one by my count. I agree -- I dont see how shorts or perfume ads count in an otherwise long filmography. It's reaching.
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