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Post by stabcaesar on Jan 19, 2021 6:34:22 GMT
Are we supposed to know when they were born?
Anyway, between the 2 it's not even close. DiCraprio is the most overrated actor working today. He's the epitome of a one trick pony who's got like maybe 2 decent performances under his belt. He also has the most annoying speaking voice. Every time he said "dream" in Inception I wanted to slap the fuck out of him.
Joaquin Phoenix on the other hand is the best actor of his generation. Not only is his filmography unfathomably rich and diverse, he rarely hits a false note in any role he plays. Even in films I don't like (Joker, You Were Never Really Here) he was the best part about them.
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Post by franklin on Mar 12, 2021 19:27:16 GMT
Bumping this thread, but, come on, the people who say Phoenix, are not fully aware of DiCap's filmography and his run of terrific performances.
This Boy's Life What's Eating Gilbert Grape? The Basketball Diaries Romeo + Juliet Marvin's Room Titanic Gangs of New York Catch Me If You Can The Aviator The Departed Blood Diamond Revolutionary Road Shutter Island Inception Django Unchained The Great Gatsby The Wolf of Wall Street The Revenant Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
It's not a coincidence that many people consider him as the greatest actor of his generation. Even Phoenix in his SAG speech considers him superior, and his "acting inspiration".
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Post by flasuss on Mar 12, 2021 19:36:29 GMT
Bumping this thread, but, come on, the people who say Phoenix, are not fully aware of DiCap's filmography and his run of terrific performances. Yes, no one heard of Di Caprio before or knows what he's done.
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Post by countjohn on Mar 13, 2021 6:11:19 GMT
Bumping this thread, but, come on, the people who say Phoenix, are not fully aware of DiCap's filmography and his run of terrific performances. I don't think anyone's disputing Leo's filmography here. It's more about finding Phoenix's best performances to be a lot better. Leo gets a lot of mileage out of his filmography and director roster and it leads to people overrating the actual performances.
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Post by Good God on Mar 13, 2021 6:37:58 GMT
I don't think anyone's disputing Leo's filmography here. It's more about finding Phoenix's best performances to be a lot better. Leo gets a lot of mileage out of his filmography and director roster and it leads to people overrating the actual performances. Yeah, not really. DiCaprio has always been rated higher than Phoenix, ever since he broke out in 1993 and much before he paired up with Scorsese. Phoenix couldn't have been plainer on this point in his SAG speech. DiCaprio's better director roster and filmography is a consequence, in part, of his being better regarded and not the other way around. What if someone said that DiCaprio being a mainstream favorite and the most widely respected actor of his generation leads to certain cinephile sections overrating Phoenix because they are pretentious and want to stand out from the crowd? That is not much different to what you are saying here.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Mar 13, 2021 6:55:18 GMT
Huh... close race.
I'll say Leo because Wolf of Wall Street just destroys Joaquin's career. His best could be The Master or Walk the Line. If you take out The Wolf of Wall Street, it's Joaquin tho as Leo's 2nd best is Catch Me If You Can.
I don't understand the popular debate, because both are pretty popular these days. Leo has more name recognition, but there's lots of fans of both around anywhere and on the internet, and both groups possess about an equal amount of overall cinematic knowledge, which is more than most people but still limited compared to the most intelligent cinephiles.
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Post by franklin on Mar 13, 2021 21:37:02 GMT
Huh... close race. I'll say Leo because Wolf of Wall Street just destroys Joaquin's career. His best could be The Master or Walk the Line. If you take out The Wolf of Wall Street, it's Joaquin tho as Leo's 2nd best is Catch Me If You Can. I don't understand the popular debate, because both are pretty popular these days. Leo has more name recognition, but there's lots of fans of both around anywhere and on the internet, and both groups possess about an equal amount of overall cinematic knowledge, which is more than most people but still limited compared to the most intelligent cinephiles. Disagree, his second best is The Aviator.
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Post by Steve17 on Mar 15, 2021 0:36:41 GMT
Both are great, but I pick DiCaprio. Coincidentally, my Best Actor winners of 2005 and 2006. Also, I picked up Joker and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood on blu-ray yesterday.
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Post by Allenism on Mar 16, 2021 12:48:21 GMT
Romeo + Juliet Gangs of New York The Aviator Revolutionary Road Shutter Island Inception The Great Gatsby Real talk, he was middling to bad in these, IMO.
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Post by franklin on Mar 16, 2021 15:35:16 GMT
Romeo + Juliet Gangs of New York The Aviator Revolutionary Road Shutter Island Inception The Great Gatsby Real talk, he was middling to bad in these, IMO. I may concede that he wasn't at this best in Gangs of New York but because of the type of role he had to play, and the fact that he was only 26 at the time and had to go toe to toe against Daniel Day-Lewis in his prime with an extremely meaty role (maybe his greatest performance ever) and in fact he was overshadowed by him. But all the other films and performances?? No way.
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Post by countjohn on Mar 16, 2021 15:47:28 GMT
Real talk, he was middling to bad in these, IMO. I may concede that he wasn't at this best in Gangs of New York but because of the type of role he had to play, and the fact that he was only 26 at the time and had to go toe to toe against Daniel Day-Lewis in his prime with an extremely meaty role (maybe his greatest performance ever) and in fact he was overshadowed by him. But all the other films and performances?? No way. I like him in Aviator, Revolutionary Road, and Gatsby so I'm not 100% on board with that post. But he's okay in all the other ones (or worse, oof@GONY). Just talking about the performances here, not the movies.
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Post by futuretrunks on Nov 9, 2022 3:46:17 GMT
Alot of you know nothing about acting. It's clear to me after Joaquin in The Master is heralded as transcendent, when literally only the processing scene is a feat of astounding acting. His recent glory is just a reaction to Leo, and will look silly in coming years. Buckle up!
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Post by flasuss on Nov 10, 2022 2:36:16 GMT
Alot of you know nothing about acting. It's clear to me after Joaquin in The Master is heralded as transcendent, when literally only the processing scene is a feat of astounding acting. His recent glory is just a reaction to Leo, and will look silly in coming years. Buckle up! Good that you are here to teach us what acting is. I don't know what the universe would do without you.
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Post by stabcaesar on Nov 11, 2022 2:13:57 GMT
DiCaprio has maybe 2 or 3 decent performances, the rest range from mediocre to completely disastrous.
Phoenix on the other hand is good or great almost in every single thing he does. It’s not even a comparison imo.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Nov 11, 2022 8:42:45 GMT
Allenism said incels tongue bathing him after Joker. That's a fact. I've got to go with Joaquin. I've seen the Master.
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Post by Allenism on Dec 16, 2022 23:18:35 GMT
Are we supposed to know when they were born? I know, it's as if set up those options in the context where there isn't a search engine readily available to anyone with working wifi.
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Post by tastytomatoes on Dec 29, 2022 14:31:34 GMT
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Post by futuretrunks on Dec 29, 2022 16:35:46 GMT
Wock mumbles alot.
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Post by futuretrunks on May 28, 2023 3:58:20 GMT
Leo will come out with another Scorsese banger and then follow that up with something interesting, meanwhile Joaquin will release 3-4 flops in a row that his stans and fake stans won't even watch. It's so predictable. Joker 2.0 makes a billion rinse and repeat. Bump. Even flippant me can be pretty accurate!
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