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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 14:50:15 GMT
Wow...
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 30, 2020 15:04:13 GMT
Brad Pitt totally seems like the kind of guy who would apologize for shit he had nothing to do with.
But yeah, Ed Norton is a dickhead. Nothing new in that arena. There's a reason he had a huge career lull and it was all because of him.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 30, 2020 15:35:53 GMT
I dunno, to me that's kind of strange tbh.........I mean stars/actors do that all the time and he's one of the stars, tough break, way it goes right?
Fight Club, 20 years later, is still not that good (8.8, #11 on IMDB - GTFO), all 3 of those ladies aren't really necessarily "more" right for the role anyway (why not Uma Thurman?! Juliette Lewis?! Robin Wright?! throw a dart!).
Is Edward Norton still (20 years later) talked about as a "great actor" ("wonderful, wonderful" in Janeane's words) instead of a guy "who gave some (not that many) great performances" - which is not the same thing at all............ and which is closer to the actual truth.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 30, 2020 15:56:29 GMT
So she was supposed to take the part of Bonham Carter...
Because I loved HBC in Fight Club. One of her best performances ever.
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Post by quetee on Jan 30, 2020 18:07:17 GMT
Wow. Brad seems like a nice guy.
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Post by getclutch on Jan 30, 2020 19:21:44 GMT
Never knew that. Yeah, Garofalo always brought her a-game to any genre whether it was TV/film. Always loved her character in Seinfeld & her performance in Clay Pigeons. Nonetheless, HBC did her role just fine.
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Post by jakesully on Jan 31, 2020 12:07:08 GMT
So she was supposed to take the part of Bonham Carter... Because I loved HBC in Fight Club. One of her best performances ever. Completely agree. HBC as Marla Singer was stellar . Couldn't picture any other actress in that role.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 31, 2020 13:26:58 GMT
I don't really get the issue here. Many stars/leading actors with enough clout have some sort of casting approval locked into their contracts. This happens literally all the time.
The one actually at fault here sounds like David Fincher. Seems like he promised Garofalo the role, and then backed down when Norton expressed his disapproval. Fincher had a couple of choices. He could have put his foot down and said he had promised her the role and his word is his bond, but then he risked losing Norton whose performance is absolutely the lynchpin of the movie. Fincher didn't think it through, and realised that he needed to get some sort of approval from both Pitt and Norton, and that's how they eventually settled on Helena Bonham Carter.
Norton's pulled a lot of questionable or self-sabotaging moves in his career, but I would not class this as one of them.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jan 31, 2020 13:43:33 GMT
Still, on the plus side, at least she isn't in Fight Club.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jan 31, 2020 13:56:01 GMT
Don't know her at all, but I didn't really care for HBC. At least Courtney Love didn't get the part.
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Post by getclutch on Jan 31, 2020 16:46:33 GMT
I don't really get the issue here. Many stars/leading actors with enough clout have some sort of casting approval locked into their contracts. This happens literally all the time. The one actually at fault here sounds like David Fincher. Seems like he promised Garofalo the role, and then backed down when Norton expressed his disapproval. Fincher had a couple of choices. He could have put his foot down and said he had promised her the role and his word is his bond, but then he risked losing Norton whose performance is absolutely the lynchpin of the movie. Fincher didn't think it through, and realised that he needed to get some sort of approval from both Pitt and Norton, and that's how they eventually settled on Helena Bonham Carter.Norton's pulled a lot of questionable or self-sabotaging moves in his career, but I would not class this as one of them. Yeah, I could not disagree with this. It is all about who has the most control. In ’98, who had more control, Fincher or Norton? I’ll give the edge to Norton where he already had a nomination in the bag for Primal Fear along with American History X getting great reviews/feedback. And yes, like you said, Fincher did not want to risk losing Norton.
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Post by quetee on Jan 31, 2020 17:31:12 GMT
I don't really get the issue here. Many stars/leading actors with enough clout have some sort of casting approval locked into their contracts. This happens literally all the time. The one actually at fault here sounds like David Fincher. Seems like he promised Garofalo the role, and then backed down when Norton expressed his disapproval. Fincher had a couple of choices. He could have put his foot down and said he had promised her the role and his word is his bond, but then he risked losing Norton whose performance is absolutely the lynchpin of the movie. Fincher didn't think it through, and realised that he needed to get some sort of approval from both Pitt and Norton, and that's how they eventually settled on Helena Bonham Carter.Norton's pulled a lot of questionable or self-sabotaging moves in his career, but I would not class this as one of them. wasnt Norton one of the producers? That is probably why he overruled and tried to cast his then girlfriend.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 1, 2020 6:02:35 GMT
So she was supposed to take the part of Bonham Carter... Because I loved HBC in Fight Club. One of her best performances ever. Completely agree. HBC as Marla Singer was stellar . Couldn't picture any other actress in that role. I thought HBC was great in the role too. That's not the point.
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Post by TerryMontana on Feb 1, 2020 12:45:21 GMT
Completely agree. HBC as Marla Singer was stellar . Couldn't picture any other actress in that role. I thought HBC was great in the role too. That's not the point. We're just saying...
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Feb 1, 2020 19:30:22 GMT
I dunno, to me that's kind of strange tbh.........I mean stars/actors do that all the time and he's one of the stars, tough break, way it goes right? Fight Club, 20 years later, is still not that good (8.8, #11 on IMDB - GTFO), all 3 of those ladies aren't really necessarily "more" right for the role anyway (why not Uma Thurman?! Juliette Lewis?! Robin Wright?! throw a dart!). Is Edward Norton still (20 years later) talked about as a "great actor" ("wonderful, wonderful" in Janeane's words) instead of a guy "who gave some (not that many) great performances" - which is not the same thing at all............ and which is closer to the actual truth. Wrong on 2 out of 3 points, my friend. FIGHT CLUB IS a remarkable film, and Norton IS a great actor. You are correct that this is much ado about nothing, though.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Feb 2, 2020 1:44:43 GMT
I hate to be that person but Edward Norton was right. I don't think she had the chops for that part either.
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Post by countjohn on Feb 2, 2020 7:32:29 GMT
HBC was very good here and it's hard to even imagine Garofalo doing this, it's a fairly challenging part.
As someone else said, if anyone did anything wrong here it's Fincher since he promised her the part. Norton is not responsible for that.
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Post by Viced on Feb 4, 2020 1:08:53 GMT
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Post by Allenism on Feb 14, 2020 16:50:15 GMT
Don't know her at all, but I didn't really care for HBC. At least Courtney Love didn't get the part. Weird take considering Courtney Love's actually a good actress, e.g., The People vs. Larry Flynt
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 14, 2020 19:57:18 GMT
Don't know her at all, but I didn't really care for HBC. At least Courtney Love didn't get the part. Weird take considering Courtney Love's actually a good actress, e.g., The People vs. Larry FlyntHaven't seen that movie, so I can't comment.
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Post by hugobolso on Feb 14, 2020 22:11:41 GMT
To be fair, as I remember he fighted a lot for his then girlfriend Courtney Love for the role. So he hadn't anything against Garofalo, he campaigned hard 4 Love.-
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Post by cheesecake on Feb 14, 2020 23:06:40 GMT
Weird take considering Courtney Love's actually a good actress, e.g., The People vs. Larry FlyntHaven't seen that movie, so I can't comment. She's fantastic in it!
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Post by forksforest on Feb 25, 2020 16:00:48 GMT
I hate to be that person but Edward Norton was right. I don't think she had the chops for that part either. Agreed.
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Post by mattfincher on Feb 26, 2020 2:43:45 GMT
I mean, even if you think he's right, it's a total dick move and pretty much sums up why Norton will never have the career he could have had. Truly could have gone down as one of the all-time greats.
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Post by mattfincher on Feb 26, 2020 2:52:03 GMT
I dunno, to me that's kind of strange tbh.........I mean stars/actors do that all the time and he's one of the stars, tough break, way it goes right? Fight Club, 20 years later, is still not that good (8.8, #11 on IMDB - GTFO), all 3 of those ladies aren't really necessarily "more" right for the role anyway (why not Uma Thurman?! Juliette Lewis?! Robin Wright?! throw a dart!). Is Edward Norton still (20 years later) talked about as a "great actor" ("wonderful, wonderful" in Janeane's words) instead of a guy "who gave some (not that many) great performances" - which is not the same thing at all............ and which is closer to the actual truth. I think Norton's career is most noteworthy for what it could have been at this point, rather than what it's been. His talent has never really been in question and all of his problems seem entirely self-inflicted. I mean, if you told somebody around the time Fight Club came out that over 20 years later he'd only be nominated once more (in supporting) and really only give two performances (Birdman and 25th Hour) that carry much reverence, you'd be laughed out of the room.
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