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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 29, 2020 15:05:09 GMT
Don't tell a victim of sexual assault how to react when she sees a convicted rapist receiving the highest honor in the french film industry .She did what she wanted / needed to do. More power to her. she should've realized that the film got 12 nods, more than any movies and inevitable to win such main prize so shouldn't be shocked if that happened. she should've joined the boycott outside rather than wearing that glamour dress and pretended there was nothing happened. I highly doubt she was expecting Polanski to win for best director.A lot of people thought it wouldn't happen given the huge controversy surrounding those nominations + another alleged victim accusing Polanski of raping her a few months ago.She made quite an impression walking off of the ceremony like that .A lot people are currently talking about it. She certainly brought a lot of attention to that matter.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 29, 2020 15:05:38 GMT
Don't tell a victim of sexual assault how to react when she sees a convicted rapist receiving the highest honor in the french film industry .She did what she wanted / needed to do. More power to her. she should've realized that the film got 12 nods, more than any movies and inevitable to win such main prize so shouldn't be shocked if that happened. she should've joined the boycott outside rather than wearing that glamour dress and pretended there was nothing happened. I believe the Cesar eliminates the BP winner from Best Director (this was posted on Jeff Wells site so I'm not sure if that's true?) if that is true however - he was actually even more likely to win BD in a way since he wasn't going to win BP anyway. He also won for screenplay last night - now I didn't think he'd win director but I didn't know of that rule either - maybe people should have seen it as something more likely to happen........that's a strange rule.....
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Post by stephen on Feb 29, 2020 15:30:25 GMT
Don't tell a victim of sexual assault how to react when she sees a convicted rapist receiving the highest honor in the french film industry .She did what she wanted / needed to do. More power to her. she should've realized that the film got 12 nods, more than any movies and inevitable to win such main prize so shouldn't be shocked if that happened. she should've joined the boycott outside rather than wearing that glamour dress and pretended there was nothing happened. Her walking out of the ceremony garnered more attention than if she'd been boycotting outside or stayed at home, so...
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 29, 2020 15:33:41 GMT
I highly doubt she was expecting Polanski to win for best director.A lot of people thought it wouldn't happen given the huge controversy surrounding those nominations + another alleged victim accusing Polanski of raping her a few months ago.She made quite an impression walking off of the ceremony like that .A lot people are currently talking about it. She certainly brought a lot of attention to that matter. yeah, she just made a worldwide headline, center of attention. I wonder if Rose McGowan would call her brave later on Twitter Cynics and haters can fuck off.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 29, 2020 16:49:12 GMT
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Post by erickeitel on Feb 29, 2020 17:18:28 GMT
It can't be the Salem Witch Trials since Polanski hasn't had one.
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Post by jimmalone on Feb 29, 2020 17:29:07 GMT
she should've realized that the film got 12 nods, more than any movies and inevitable to win such main prize so shouldn't be shocked if that happened. she should've joined the boycott outside rather than wearing that glamour dress and pretended there was nothing happened. I believe the Cesar eliminates the BP winner from Best Director (this was posted on Jeff Wells site so I'm not sure if that's true?) If so, this is a new rule. Cause 5 years ago Timbuktu won both awards.
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Post by Archie on Feb 29, 2020 19:31:10 GMT
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 29, 2020 20:39:10 GMT
She's sarcastically chanting "Bravo pedophilia ! Hail pedophilia !" . Apparently , she just left the teater and didn't even bother to attend the post Césars party.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 29, 2020 20:44:59 GMT
Brigitte Bardot has tweeted her support to Polanski praising him for "saving french cinema from its current mediocrity".She also said that Polanski should be judged by his talent and not his private life , and that she regerts that she never had the chance to work with him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 22:26:46 GMT
Brad Pitt declined his Honorary César because of all of this - hopefully they will offer it to him again next year. Fanny Ardant also came out in defense of Polanski: "I'm very happy for him." Re. Bardot: This never gets old.
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 29, 2020 22:47:29 GMT
Brigitte Bardot has tweeted her support to Polanski praising him for "saving french cinema from its current mediocrity".She also said that Polanski should be judged by his talent and not his private life , and that she regerts that she never had the chance to work with him. Hardly a shock. Once her beauty faded, Bardot spent much of her time reinventing herself as a reactionary bigot. This is completely on brand for her.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Mar 1, 2020 4:50:43 GMT
Haenel has a right to her opinion. She also has a right to walk out mocking and taunting anti-Polanski chants along the way.... and that's ok. But she should also realize the night was not about her regardless of what personal wounds she may have had in the past.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 1, 2020 5:34:09 GMT
Haenel has a right to her opinion. She also has a right to walk out mocking and taunting anti-Polanski chants along the way.... and that's ok. But she should also realize the night was not about her regardless of what personal wounds she may have had in the past. she''s not the only one who walked out and certainly isn't the only one protesting this.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Mar 1, 2020 5:55:49 GMT
Haenel has a right to her opinion. She also has a right to walk out mocking and taunting anti-Polanski chants along the way.... and that's ok. But she should also realize the night was not about her regardless of what personal wounds she may have had in the past. she''s not the only one who walked out and certainly isn't the only one protesting this. Of course there's more people against Polanski. And they have a right to their opinion. I have a right to find them lame for using an award show to launch a few taunts and unpleasantries against Polanski. That's basically the highest extent of their actions... (for a guy who wasn't even there, to add to that). After a week, nobody will care. I'm sure there are just as many people who love Polanski and choose to view him for the positives he's done instead of the negatives. Brigitte Bardot for instance - and I'm sure she's not the only one.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 1, 2020 8:15:39 GMT
she''s not the only one who walked out and certainly isn't the only one protesting this. Of course there's more people against Polanski. And they have a right to their opinion. I have a right to find them lame for using an award show to launch a few taunts and unpleasantries against Polanski. That's basically the highest extent of their actions... (for a guy who wasn't even there, to add to that). After a week, nobody will care. I'm sure there are just as many people who love Polanski and choose to view him for the positives he's done instead of the negatives. Brigitte Bardot for instance - and I'm sure she's not the only one. Part of the context of this is this is Polanski's 5th win at the Cesars and 3rd in the last decade - the most awarded filmmaker ever here. Haenel has been a major star for over a decade (since Water Lilies) and could have refused her 2 Cesar wins or something say - in 2014 they BOTH won and afaik she said nothing (?). So people who support him call that hypocrisy, people who see Haenel as heroic say it's a different time and what difference does it make when she protested it anyway - the protest itself matters. The same way the facts of his criminal case meld into peoples already settled POV, so too do such particular details as well ........
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Mar 1, 2020 9:14:47 GMT
Polanski's wife has deleted her IG account .
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Post by avnermoriarti on Mar 1, 2020 17:32:31 GMT
Polanski's wife has deleted her IG account . It was the right thing to do, for her own health
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 17:52:05 GMT
Of course there's more people against Polanski. And they have a right to their opinion. I have a right to find them lame for using an award show to launch a few taunts and unpleasantries against Polanski. That's basically the highest extent of their actions... (for a guy who wasn't even there, to add to that). After a week, nobody will care. I'm sure there are just as many people who love Polanski and choose to view him for the positives he's done instead of the negatives. Brigitte Bardot for instance - and I'm sure she's not the only one. Part of the context of this is this is Polanski's 5th win at the Cesars and 3rd in the last decade - the most awarded filmmaker ever here. Haenel has been a major star for over a decade (since Water Lilies) and could have refused her 2 Cesar wins or something say - in 2014 they BOTH won and afaik she said nothing (?).So people who support him call that hypocrisy, people who see Haenel as heroic say it's a different time and what difference does it make when she protested it anyway - the protest itself matters. The same way the facts of his criminal case meld into peoples already settled POV, so too do such particular details as well ........ I'm sorry, but for me, this is incredibly problematic. I understand that the landscape changed once Trump was elected President, but there is absolutely hypocrisy surrounding the Polanski case. How many of those Hollywood luminaries would sign the 2009 Switzerland petition today? My guess is 0. And Natalie Portman and Emma Thompson basically saying that Mike Nichols "made" them sign it just isn't an excuse.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 1, 2020 20:34:09 GMT
I believe the Cesar eliminates the BP winner from Best Director (this was posted on Jeff Wells site so I'm not sure if that's true?) If so, this is a new rule. Cause 5 years ago Timbuktu won both awards. This rule is confirmed here - the intent is to spread the wealth .........but it's a really bad rule and really sort of fostered that situation happening where he was even more likely to win (if you believe he didn't have a shot at BP). "...........it was possible that Polanski had came second in terms of numbers of votes after Ladj Ly, who won best film for Les Misérables, because under the awards’s regulations, the winner of the best film cannot also win best director."
www.screendaily.com/news/frances-metoo-debate-intensifies-as-roman-polanski-wins-best-director-cesar/5147742.article
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Mar 1, 2020 21:49:06 GMT
Don't tell a victim of sexual assault how to react when she sees a convicted rapist (who FYI never served jail time) receiving the highest honor in the french film industry .She did what she wanted / needed to do. More power to her. She is an attention whale. I sincerely hope, you realize that sooner or later. What a moronic statement! I sincerely hope you realize that sooner or later.
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Post by erickeitel on Mar 1, 2020 23:07:46 GMT
Of course there's more people against Polanski. And they have a right to their opinion. I have a right to find them lame for using an award show to launch a few taunts and unpleasantries against Polanski. That's basically the highest extent of their actions... (for a guy who wasn't even there, to add to that). After a week, nobody will care. I'm sure there are just as many people who love Polanski and choose to view him for the positives he's done instead of the negatives. Brigitte Bardot for instance - and I'm sure she's not the only one. Part of the context of this is this is Polanski's 5th win at the Cesars and 3rd in the last decade - the most awarded filmmaker ever here. Haenel has been a major star for over a decade (since Water Lilies) and could have refused her 2 Cesar wins or something say - in 2014 they BOTH won and afaik she said nothing (?). So people who support him call that hypocrisy, people who see Haenel as heroic say it's a different time and what difference does it make when she protested it anyway - the protest itself matters. The same way the facts of his criminal case meld into peoples already settled POV, so too do such particular details as well ........ You appear to be intent on discrediting anybody who calls out Polanski. "she said nothing," as if she's obligated to uphold that same position for the rest of her career.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 1, 2020 23:26:05 GMT
Part of the context of this is this is Polanski's 5th win at the Cesars and 3rd in the last decade - the most awarded filmmaker ever here. Haenel has been a major star for over a decade (since Water Lilies) and could have refused her 2 Cesar wins or something say - in 2014 they BOTH won and afaik she said nothing (?). So people who support him call that hypocrisy, people who see Haenel as heroic say it's a different time and what difference does it make when she protested it anyway - the protest itself matters. The same way the facts of his criminal case meld into peoples already settled POV, so too do such particular details as well ........ You are really intent on discrediting anybody who calls out Polanski, aren't you? "she said nothing," as if she's obligated to uphold that same position for the rest of her career. Rather, the contrary eric - I hardly advocated for the Cesars to give Polanski a FIFTH Best Director award in 2020 and THIRD in 10 years. (?).....in fact, in previous posts, I said she had every right to do what she did and I think I literally called her heroic iirc - and as anybody knows I've championed her work (the first ever on this board?) for years - it's practically a running joke on here how much I love her in general - you do get that right? What do you want me to do dude, I just presented the facts of the situation - I'm hardly discrediting her and I hardly said it was MY viewpoint that she had " to uphold that same position." I even said in the SAME F'N sentence "what difference does it make when she protested it anyway - the protest itself matters"
Your outrage is grossly misplaced........
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Post by erickeitel on Mar 2, 2020 0:36:14 GMT
You are really intent on discrediting anybody who calls out Polanski, aren't you? "she said nothing," as if she's obligated to uphold that same position for the rest of her career. Rather, the contrary eric - I hardly advocated for the Cesars to give Polanski a FIFTH Best Director award in 2020 and THIRD in 10 years. (?).....in fact, in previous posts, I said she had every right to do what she did and I think I literally called her heroic iirc - and as anybody knows I've championed her work (the first ever on this board?) for years - it's practically a running joke on here how much I love her in general - you do get that right? What do you want me to do dude, I just presented the facts of the situation - I'm hardly discrediting her and I hardly said it was MY viewpoint that she had " to uphold that same position." I even said in the SAME F'N sentence "what difference does it make when she protested it anyway - the protest itself matters"
Your outrage is grossly misplaced........ Well, I might have found your post unclear but still misjudged you so I apologize.
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