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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 16:45:30 GMT
Do you think there's an American actress who can rival her in terms of sexual allure and emotional depth? Totally bilingual, beloved by international auteurs, renowned for her beauty as well as her acting talent, called La Légende in France... My first thought is Jane Fonda - she's bilingual too and has acted in French films - celebrated for her beauty and her acting ability (two Academy Awards!). I also considered Susan Sarandon - known for blending her sexuality with her intellect (her signature role is Bull Durham)... Who are you thinking?
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Post by LaraQ on Dec 31, 2019 17:13:41 GMT
Michelle Pfeiffer would come closest to matching the kind of allure Rampling had/has.Particularly during the Scarface/Catwoman period of her career.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 31, 2019 17:49:49 GMT
I'll say Gena Rowlands who was talented, gorgeous and enigmatic and of course predates her so Rampling is maybe the non-American Rowlands - she literally had a fox face, she evokes a ferocious animal like Rampling evokes a mysterious cat ...............she is idolized by the French, a Greek husband ......she had been around a while before she started getting awards too like Rampling, there is something spectacularly American in her and yet not in a nauseating "America's Sweetheart" way - there's something "Alternative" to her too and the work she did and she had a style component too.
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Post by MsMovieStar on Dec 31, 2019 18:37:13 GMT
Oh honeys, Kristin Scott Thomas? Bilingual, check. Beauty, check. Acting talent, check... etc.
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Post by Weaver Addict on Dec 31, 2019 18:49:42 GMT
I'll say Gena Rowlands who was talented, gorgeous and enigmatic and of course predates her so Rampling is maybe the non-American Rowlands - she literally had a fox face, she evokes a ferocious animal like Rampling evokes a mysterious cat ...............she is idolized by the French, a Greek husband ......she had been around a while before she started getting awards too like Rampling, there is something spectacularly American in her and yet not in a nauseating "America's Sweetheart" way - there's something "Alternative" to her too and the work she did and she had a style component too. That second photo with her head back against Cassavettes? Alluring indeed. And she has one of the most perfect noses.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Dec 31, 2019 18:59:59 GMT
Oh honeys, Kristin Scott Thomas? Bilingual, check. Beauty, check. Acting talent, check... etc. Oh honey, Kristin Scott Thomas is not American 😕
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Post by MsMovieStar on Dec 31, 2019 19:12:50 GMT
Oh honeys, Kristin Scott Thomas? Bilingual, check. Beauty, check. Acting talent, check... etc. Oh honey, Kristin Scott Thomas is not American 😕
Oh honey, you don't expect me to be beautiful AND to read things properly, do you?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 19:50:24 GMT
pacinoyes - It's so interesting to me that you suggested Rowlands. Kirsten Dunst cites her and Rampling as her two favorite actresses. I think Dunst's performance in Melancholia (playing Rampling's daughter) is very Rampling-esque, too, come to think of it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 23:58:34 GMT
How about this... Can y'all picture any American actress in a film about a woman in love with a chimpanzee?
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jan 1, 2020 0:17:38 GMT
I'll say Gena Rowlands who was talented, gorgeous and enigmatic and of course predates her so Rampling is maybe the non-American Rowlands - she literally had a fox face, she evokes a ferocious animal like Rampling evokes a mysterious cat ...............she is idolized by the French, a Greek husband ......she had been around a while before she started getting awards too like Rampling, there is something spectacularly American in her and yet not in a nauseating "America's Sweetheart" way - there's something "Alternative" to her too and the work she did and she had a style component too. 1. I love you for this. 2. Cassavetes/Rowlands coolest couple ever. That second photo is sexxxxy. 3. Rowlands > Rampling
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2020 0:40:22 GMT
I'll say Gena Rowlands who was talented, gorgeous and enigmatic and of course predates her so Rampling is maybe the non-American Rowlands - she literally had a fox face, she evokes a ferocious animal like Rampling evokes a mysterious cat ...............she is idolized by the French, a Greek husband ......she had been around a while before she started getting awards too like Rampling, there is something spectacularly American in her and yet not in a nauseating "America's Sweetheart" way - there's something "Alternative" to her too and the work she did and she had a style component too. 1. I love you for this. 2. Cassavetes/Rowlands coolest couple ever. That second photo is sexxxxy. 3. Rowlands > Rampling
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Post by hugobolso on Jan 1, 2020 0:56:14 GMT
in Us is hard to find someone. Before Rampling there was Anouk Aimee, french.-
Is hard to find one, around Rampling age, maybe Cher. But in the late 80s and early 90s Rampling had several clone children Lara Flynn Boyle, Sherelyn Fenn, Linda Fiorentino, Sean Young.-
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jan 2, 2020 14:11:48 GMT
1. I love you for this. 2. Cassavetes/Rowlands coolest couple ever. That second photo is sexxxxy. 3. Rowlands > Rampling hahaha. Sorry Rampling fans. I do think she's great. But Rowlands is the greatest to me. Although I am missing me some Liv Ullmann lately. I need to have an Ullmann/Bergman marathon like I did once upon a time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 1:59:10 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 10, 2020 10:21:47 GMT
I guess the thing that differentiates them is Rampling's aura and Dunst all-American qualities - how "otherworldly" and therefore non-American Rampling was on the surface - that's not the right word exactly but she was always somewhat misplaced on the surface - her story in "Asylum" is sort of her early career summed up, she doesn't seem to quite "fit". So that then deepened every part she was cast in, you had a preconception of the role because of the actor - not typecasting but complex casting - where actor trumps the role. That's hard to get - when an actor gets that they get all sorts of benefits from it - one of them is not actually having to do the work itself but letting audiences imagine them in other roles which then deepens what we've already established them as - an example: how would Rampling have been in The Natural as Harriet Bird - well weird, but Rampling's weird too - so it'd have been great! - and things like that........... The interviewer is quite right about the hard facade that slowly cracks - Dunst's work in Fargo has that and has it in an American way she doesn't seem to be doing anyone but herself (she isn't anybody else in On Becoming A God either)......... is she still doing the Campion film because you know that could be major at the exact right time and those ace roles don't come around much.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 17:01:45 GMT
I guess the thing that differentiates them is Rampling's aura and Dunst all-American qualities - how "otherworldly" and therefore non-American Rampling was on the surface - that's not the right word exactly but she was always somewhat misplaced on the surface - her story in "Asylum" is sort of her early career summed up, she doesn't seem to quite "fit". So that then deepened every part she was cast in, you had a preconception of the role because of the actor - not typecasting but complex casting - where actor trumps the role. That's hard to get - when an actor gets that they get all sorts of benefits from it - one of them is not actually having to do the work itself but letting audiences imagine them in other roles which then deepens what we've already established them as - an example: how would Rampling have been in The Natural as Harriet Bird - well weird, but Rampling's weird too - so it'd have been great! - and things like that........... The interviewer is quite right about the hard facade that slowly cracks - Dunst's work in Fargo has that and has it in an American way she doesn't seem to be doing anyone but herself (she isn't anybody else in On Becoming A God either)......... is she still doing the Campion film because you know that could be major at the exact right time and those ace roles don't come around much.Thank you for this write-up - really insightful and really true. And yes! Her fiancé, Jesse Plemmons, has even replaced Paul Dano in the production. I'm so excited that she's going to work with Campion!
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jan 11, 2020 13:13:02 GMT
Well, maybe. I do want to see the naturally talented Kirsten with more Melancholia roles. I don't mean identical but as prominent, memorable, and impactful. I've said this before but she gave one of the best depictions of depression ever and believe me, I'm familiar with that world.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 17:44:14 GMT
Well, maybe. I do want to see the naturally talented Kirsten with more Melancholia roles. I don't mean identical but as prominent, memorable, and impactful. I've said this before but she gave one of the best depictions of depression ever and believe me, I'm familiar with that world. Oh, I agree. Have you seen Rampling in ‘Under the Sand’, Carrie? That may well be my favorite performance of all time - such a vivid and realistic depiction of depression and loss.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 4:49:22 GMT
NY Times film critic Stephen Holden called Lauren Bacall the "Hollywood prototype" of Rampling - Yes! I think Holden hit the nail on the head with this comparison.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 17, 2020 6:18:15 GMT
NY Times film critic Stephen Holden called Lauren Bacall the "Hollywood prototype" of Rampling - Yes! I think Holden hit the nail on the head with this comparison. I definitely agree with that!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 2:22:04 GMT
pacinoyes - A few more things I found linking Rampling and Rowlands: From film blog The Sheila Variations: But it was 1974’s The Night Porter (with Dirk Bogarde opposite) that cemented my belief that she – along with Gena Rowlands – was the scariest actress of her generation. You don’t cuddle up to Charlotte Rampling. You don’t warm to Gena Rowlands. Actresses like those two are scary. Raw meat, on display. Flayed, whipped, beaten by life. Clinging with ripped fingernails to some ledge, laughing hysterically and wildly as they hang over the abyss. Their cover-ups are jagged, incomplete, their pain long-lasting, inseparable from the look behind their eyes.French actress Marine Vacth (from Ozon's Jeune et jolie) mirrors Kirsten Dunst by naming them as her idols to Grazia: Q: Is there an actress who represents a model for you? A: "Today I admire professionals like the British Charlotte Rampling and the American Gena Rowlands, but I did not grow up dreaming of cinema: I have never felt the desire to identify myself with a diva." If they were to swap one role each... I could totally see Rampling in Gloria and Rowlands in Stardust Memories (both from 1980).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2022 22:30:02 GMT
What about Jessica Lange? She is more similar in age to Rampling (Lange was born in '49, Rampling was born in '46) than some of the other women mentioned, and there's obviously their shared beauty and sexual magnetism - and a determination to never "coast" just on those attributes. Also there is the element of darkness... The idea that both Lange and Rampling draw from their own reservoirs of personal sadness for their characters... They've both spoken at length about this acting process, with Lange even saying she's afraid of being taken over by it. Here's Lange photographed by a frequent Rampling collaborator, Helmut Newton - with her daughter, Shura Baryshnikov :
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