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Post by stephen on Mar 17, 2017 20:57:05 GMT
No. Elaine Benes and Chuck Palahniuk were right.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 21:42:18 GMT
Yes. I much prefer Secrets & Lies but The English Patient was still a very worthy choice and the second best of the Best Picture nominees.
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Post by countjohn on Mar 17, 2017 23:16:52 GMT
I love The English Patient. No issue with it winning.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 17, 2017 23:22:57 GMT
Not particularly... but besides First Kid and Jingle All the Way, I can't think of many good films from the year.
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Post by bobbystarks on Mar 17, 2017 23:24:58 GMT
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Post by flasuss on Mar 18, 2017 6:37:27 GMT
The fact it's more remembered these days for a Seinfeld joke is pretty telling. So DULL and generic.
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Post by tobias on Mar 18, 2017 6:39:28 GMT
Best winner of the 90's for my money. Maybe 3rd best of the year (but the 2 films I prefer would have never been even nominated). It's simply the high drama that half of the 90's winners wanted to be (yes, I'm looking at you in particular Titanic). Is has it's flaws in that all of the characters could have been a little more fleshed out but if you look at stuff like Titanic, Dances with Wolves or Shakespeare in Love, The English Patient actually does really well with it's characters.
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Post by themoviesinner on Mar 18, 2017 8:48:52 GMT
It's one of the best films of the 90s, so it definitely deserved to win.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Mar 18, 2017 10:20:10 GMT
I saw it once, more than ten years ago, and I found it incredibly dull. I just couldn't wait til it was over. I'm glad I saw it, but I don't think I will put myself through it again soon. Pacey from Dawson's Creek was right: this is the best thing you can get when you need something to put you to sleep. You can't go wrong with it.  That said, Secrets and Lies is my favorite of the nominees and of the year. Fargo is my 5th of the year. The other three are somewhere between #20 and #30. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 18, 2017 10:33:02 GMT
I saw it in the last five years or so and thought it was okay, but can remember hardly anything about it. Throw in the fact that Fargo is a masterpiece and one of my all time favorite movies, and I'd have to say no.
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Post by wendy on Mar 18, 2017 17:33:29 GMT
I really like it! I think it's beautiful and carnal and passionate. Very few films could be this authentically 'sweeping' nowadays, quite possibly the last great 'wartime romance'. The scene where Kristin Scott Thomas reads Herodotus is incandescent, and along with the beautiful techs and dialogue, there's a palpable sense of fear and danger and lust. I don't think it's nearly as 'buttoned up' and 'boring' as people have made it out to be.
I will say that the scenes between Almasy and Hannah got a liiittle bit cloying, and the repeated switching back to present day kept distracting from the main action.... but what a beautiful eulogy to an affair. This is very 'classical' Hollywood filmmaking done impeccably well.
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Post by taranofprydain on Mar 18, 2017 17:47:46 GMT
I'd take Fargo and Secrets and Lies (and Mother) over it, but I think that it was a very deserving winner, a wonderful film.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 18, 2017 17:55:32 GMT
It's bloated garbage IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 18:31:53 GMT
Nope. Obviously Fargo should have won.  |
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Post by Brother Fease on Mar 18, 2017 20:01:11 GMT
As far as the best picture nominees, I would rank them:
1. Jerry Maguire
2. Shine
3. Fargo
4. The English Patient
5. Secret and Lies
But the other films I loved from that year was:
Hamlet
Sling Blade
The Crucible
Ghosts of Mississippi
Marvin's Room
James and Giant Peach
Twister
The Birdcage
William Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet
My favorite would probably be Jerry Maguire.
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Post by Brother Fease on Mar 18, 2017 20:03:30 GMT
Not particularly... but besides First Kid and Jingle All the Way, I can't think of many good films from the year. Really? Pretty strong season to me. You didn't like Sling Blade, Jerry Maguire, Shine, Hamlet, Romeo and Juliet, Fargo, The Crucible, and so forth? |
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Post by JangoB on Mar 18, 2017 20:12:06 GMT
Old Wendy gets it. It's a terrific movie and even though it wasn't the very best of the nominees (that honor belongs to Fargo), it still deserved the win in its own right.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 18, 2017 22:38:34 GMT
Not particularly... but besides First Kid and Jingle All the Way, I can't think of many good films from the year. All the other BP nominees were better. Throw in Sling Blade, Trainspotting, The People vs. Larry Flynt, and Breaking the Waves to boot. |
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Mar 19, 2017 15:11:00 GMT
I'm OK with it since it was a beautifuly crafted epic flick but I prefered Fargo and Secrets + Lies.
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Post by DingoMatty on Mar 20, 2017 7:28:43 GMT
I prefer Secrets & Lies of the nominees, and Breaking the Waves overall, but it's still an incredibly gorgeous and beautiful film...I have no problems with its win.
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Post by marvelass on Mar 21, 2017 15:54:20 GMT
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Post by marvelass on Mar 21, 2017 16:08:08 GMT
Incidentally, how in hell did The English Patient win for costume design? Especially against 4 pre-20th Century costume dramas (Angels & Insects, Emma, Hamlet, Portrait of a Lady)? Heck, Evita and 101 Dalmatians featured more impressive costuming, and they weren't even nominated. It was 1982 all over again, when Gandhi won for 101 ways to tie a sheet.
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Post by JangoB on Mar 21, 2017 16:25:07 GMT
Incidentally, how in hell did The English Patient win for costume design? Especially against 4 pre-20th Century costume dramas ( Angels & Insects, Emma, Hamlet, Portrait of a Lady)? Heck, Evita and 101 Dalmatians featured more impressive costuming, and they weren't even nominated. It was 1982 all over again, when Gandhi won for 101 ways to tie a sheet. Yeah, that is kind of a surprising win in terms of the scope of the achievement. The work is good but there just ain't much of it, and it's certainly not particularly flashy. I guess the Costume Design award was just part of its overall sweep. I'm kinda shocked that "Evita" wasn't even nominated. I do think you're being a tad unfair towards "Gandhi" though. That film had hundreds of extras in those massive crowd scenes which all needed to be dressed, so the work extends far beyond just sheets. Not to mention the military costumes and other period clothing. |
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Post by jimmalone on Mar 23, 2017 13:36:20 GMT
I'm fine with this choice. It's not my favorite of the year, but then there isn't an outstanding movie in 1996 for me. Just some good or very good ones and The English Patient is among them. I would be fine with Fargo or Secrets and Lies as well. Mike Leighs film is probably my favorite of the trio, but The English Patient is a decent winner in this year.
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