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Post by franklin on May 14, 2021 22:35:49 GMT
Maybe it can't be ready on time or despite its quality, it's just not an accessible Oscar player.
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Post by stephen on May 14, 2021 22:36:25 GMT
Looks like we’re going to have to wait a little while longer for this. You don't rush greatness. But the spring release is a shame -- I guess they don't feel confident in an Oscar play?
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Post by pupdurcs on May 14, 2021 22:44:23 GMT
Looks like we’re going to have to wait a little while longer for this. You don't rush greatness. But the spring release is a shame -- I guess they don't feel confident in an Oscar play? Since when was Eggers Oscarbait?He's an arthouse/critics thing who also has a horror following. He is not an Oscar bait filmmaker, regardless of his acclaim. There is no reason this film can't be as acclaimed as his other movies, and maybe this release date will give critics who champion him time to push him towards Oscars in awards season. That is probably unlikely...But who knows, maybe Eggers made the next Gladiator and they want a more commercial release date to reflect it's potential appeal.
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Post by stephen on May 14, 2021 22:48:22 GMT
You don't rush greatness. But the spring release is a shame -- I guess they don't feel confident in an Oscar play? Since when was Eggers Oscarbait?He's an arthouse/critics thing who also has a horror following. He is not an Oscar bait filmmaker, regardless of his acclaim. There is no reason this film can't be as acclaimed as his other movies, and maybe this release date will give critics who champion him time to push him towards Oscars in awards season. That is probably unlikely...But who knows, maybe Eggers made the next Gladiator and they want a more commercial release date to reflect it's potential appeal. The $60 million price tag with Focus Features is what made me think this could go a Braveheart/Gladiator route. I think they could definitely position it as a big commercial epic (and that release date would suit it, especially if it gets into Cannes like Mad Max did), but yeah, I'd be much more confident in an autumn bow for obvious reasons.
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Post by futuretrunks on May 14, 2021 23:01:45 GMT
IMO he has acclaim because of his movies looking professional. He has yet to show narrative scope or ambition, so I'm not shocked that The Northman might be another half-baked technical exercise. Alot of these acclaimed indie guys like Eggers, Lowery, etc. feel to me like parodies of late PTA, who is already a perversion of a student filmmaker.
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Post by pacinoyes on May 14, 2021 23:10:01 GMT
IMO he has acclaim because of his movies looking professional. He has yet to show narrative scope or ambition, so I'm not shocked that The Northman might be another half-baked technical exercise. Alot of these acclaimed indie guys like Eggers, Lowery, etc. feel to me like parodies of late PTA, who is already a perversion of a student filmmaker. I love him and his 2 movies - and thought The Northman sounded great but this ^ is kind of true. I mean like I have said a lot about this - this has already been filmed with a great cast in the past (Bale, Mirren, Byrne) and it was a big nothing.......just like we don't know if Joel Coen can direct Shakespeare without his brother, or if Ridley Scott has a good script for House of Gucci or how faithful Nightmare Alley is to the great novel............we just don't know if this big budget has overwhelmed Eggers etc.....
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Post by mhynson27 on May 14, 2021 23:12:23 GMT
They're test screening it on Tuesday and everything. Pretty surprised by this.
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Post by notacrook on May 15, 2021 2:16:34 GMT
Man, that's disappointing. This had been by far and away my most anticipated for the rest of the year.
But, as stephen said, you can't rush greatness. I'm ready when it's ready.
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Post by TerryMontana on May 15, 2021 10:56:43 GMT
So they are test screening it now but they'll release it in spring??
Too bad...
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Post by cheesecake on May 15, 2021 13:05:56 GMT
Looks like we’re going to have to wait a little while longer for this. I am so fragile right now that this news ruined my day yesterday more than The Woman in the Window did.
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Post by Lubezki on May 17, 2021 3:10:54 GMT
Looks like we’re going to have to wait a little while longer for this. You don't rush greatness. But the spring release is a shame -- I guess they don't feel confident in an Oscar play? Like you mentioned already, this can’t be ruled out as a major Oscar player the following year. It could go the Mad Max route but also, Eggers might have very well just stumbled upon the high level of potential this film has whilst in post-production. And if it’s about to screen like mhynson27 said, then he has ample time tweak things. So yeah......the delay is annoying but I’m more intrigued and optimistic about the final product now.
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Post by stephen on May 17, 2021 13:58:39 GMT
You don't rush greatness. But the spring release is a shame -- I guess they don't feel confident in an Oscar play? Like you mentioned already, this can’t be ruled out as a major Oscar player the following year. It could go the Mad Max route but also, Eggers might have very well just stumbled upon the high level of potential this film has whilst in post-production. And if it’s about to screen like mhynson27 said, then he has ample time tweak things. So yeah......the delay is annoying but I’m more intrigued and optimistic about the final product now. Yeah, the more I think on it, the April release would make sense if Focus really wants it to go the Gladiator/Braveheart/Mad Max route, as well as to give it a bit of breathing room so that audiences are more amenable to returning to theaters for it. I mean, a $60 million budget is nothing to sneeze at, even for a big studio like Focus, and I suspect Eggers probably had some say in it as well. I'm optimistic, if bummed that I have to wait another six months for it.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on May 17, 2021 18:42:01 GMT
$40M of that budget was the sound design for Viking farts.
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Post by mhynson27 on May 19, 2021 23:20:31 GMT
Tea from the test screening:
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Post by Mattsby on May 19, 2021 23:41:38 GMT
So the tea is oolong Curious about Ethan Hawke's role size too...he's in the Claudius part (or is it the Ghost -Hamlet's Father)
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Post by stephen on May 19, 2021 23:47:36 GMT
Tea from the test screening:
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Post by stephen on May 20, 2021 17:10:12 GMT
So the tea is oolong Curious about Ethan Hawke's role size too...he's in the Claudius part (or is it the Ghost -Hamlet's Father) Claes Bang is the Claudius, I believe, which would make Hawke the Ghost.
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Post by Good God on May 20, 2021 20:31:25 GMT
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Post by stephen on May 20, 2021 20:45:11 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on May 20, 2021 20:56:22 GMT
(1) "Without getting too much into it (and there’s a lot to get into because it’s 2 and a half hours), the story is basically The Revenant with The Lighthouse type dialogue and has a lot of Norse mythology references sprinkled throughout. Felt very “gotta google this to see what it means” at times.............(2) mostly due to people not fully understanding the mythological aspects or the fact that there wasn’t enough romance to make you care about Skarsgard. A few people were calling him one-note because of it"
Earlier in this thread:
Will M. on Twitter: "Thinking The Northman ends up being a lot more accessible then Robert Eggers' past stuff. Have a hard time seeing him get that $40 million budget + producers Arnon Milchan (LA Confidential) & Mark Huffam (The Martian) + an A-List cast if he were going full The Lighthouse again"
pacinoyes: ........."but you can't have people talking about how insanely dark the material is and people having their throats ripped out and also talk about how it's "accessible to everyone!"
.........pacinoyes +1............and you get those insights - and album reviews daily (um)......thank you, thank you very much, I'll be here all week, send money......
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Post by stephen on May 20, 2021 21:17:37 GMT
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Post by futuretrunks on May 20, 2021 21:35:42 GMT
As expected.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 10, 2021 18:58:25 GMT
“It’s a huge movie,” Dafoe said. “It’s a muscular movie. My involvement isn’t nearly as expansive as ‘The Lighthouse.’ I’m in a supporting role, but it was thrilling. The level of research and detail is there, but on a much bigger scale. During the pandemic, they continued to work and to research things to build, and somehow they did. We gave them the time to prepare for this huge jump in budget and size of production. The sets are fantastic.”www.indiewire.com/2021/06/willem-dafoe-teases-robert-eggers-northman-1234643695/
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 23, 2021 19:34:34 GMT
Doing re-shoots atm: www.worldofreel.com/blog/2021/7/ol248dwxvr9oi7ylefjyskjs22ep9x Robert Eggers’ “The Northman” is currently undergoing an intense series of reshoots, this after politely received test screenings put a damper on the possibility of it being released in 2021. Suffice to say, Eggers’ third feature, after “The Witch,” and “The Lighthouse,” has had a somewhat problematic journey thus far. What we have here is an ambitious and massive film that is said to have a $110 million budget. “The Northman” has a screenplay co-written by Icelandic novelist and poet Sjón Sigurdsson. Expect ambiguously spooky storytelling. The film stars Nicole Kidman, Alexander Skarsgård, Anya Taylor-Joy, Bill Skarsgård, and Willem Dafoe. There is no word yet on what the plot is about, and I doubt, much like with his other films, we will get details before release. It was announced a few months ago that the film will open on April 8th, 2022.
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Post by stephen on Jul 23, 2021 19:37:37 GMT
Suffice to say, Eggers’ third feature, after “The Witch,” and “The Lighthouse,” has had a somewhat problematic journey thus far. What we have here is an ambitious and massive film that is said to have a $110 million budget. I mean, "problematic" is a bit of a misnomer. COVID obviously stalled its production, but you can't really put that on the film's shoulders. The test screenings seemed to have some issues with the third act, but reshoots aren't necessarily the worst thing to do because many major films have reshoots -- it's part of the game and for a film with that price tag, you almost have to expect it. That budget hitting $110 million is a surprise, though.
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