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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 13, 2020 5:20:13 GMT
Yes, thank you - that's exactly what I said - you PM'd me - I never PM'd you (ever) - which you just admitted - I never replied to your music post (ever) directly which you also just admitted ............and any contact with you today started when you trolled me by replying on behalf of another use in this thread where you weren't being spoken to at all and felt you had the right to say anything to me - which of course you didn't - which was the result of you using your sense of entitlement and not checking your privilege. So glad we can finally agree on this! Like I said, you thought you were being slick with your SHUT UP passive aggressive post and I called you out on it. So you think me posting a song by my favorite band - who I post like every 2 days was about YOU even though it was not a reply in any way at all............and YOU called me on it.......yeah um...........there's no I in team quetee.........there's no U in team either......... But there are two U's in the phrase " q uetee is a privileged l unatic."
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Post by quetee on Jun 13, 2020 5:31:13 GMT
Like I said, you thought you were being slick with your SHUT UP passive aggressive post and I called you out on it. So you think me posting a song by my favorite band - who I post like every 2 days was about YOU even though it was not a reply in any way at all............and YOU called me on it.......yeah um...........there's no I in team quetee.........there's no U in team either......... But there are two U's in the phrase " q uetee is a privileged l unatic." Yes, I do and I am not wrong. All anyone has to do is roll the video tape. You have been following me around like a crack hoe looking for her next fix. I posted a video where the song is called: You about to lose yo job. With a chorus... cause you are detaining me for nothing. This song has gone viral. They are actually playing it at the protest rallies. You have been arguing left and right with anybody who dares post anything that looks to be anti cop. So you want everyone to believe that moments (literally minutes) after I posted that video, that you choose a song titled: SHUT UP... cause you like the band and that was the only reason? And it didn't have anything to do with the fact that I posted a song they used in a protest with that message? Now had I posted Hazy Shades of Winter which is a bomb asS song 80's version then no we would not be having this conversation. Like I said 11 hours ago.....CLASSIC TROLL MOVE!!!
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 13, 2020 5:42:58 GMT
So you think me posting a song by my favorite band - who I post like every 2 days was about YOU even though it was not a reply in any way at all............and YOU called me on it.......yeah um...........there's no I in team quetee.........there's no U in team either......... But there are two U's in the phrase " q uetee is a privileged l unatic." Yes, I do and I am not wrong. All anyone has to do is roll the video tape. You have been following me around like a crack hoe looking for her next fix. So much privilege................... "I" ........" I am not wrong" ........."me" If you can post ONE TIME where you were actually followed because if people are going to think every Replacements song I post is "about" them couldn't everyone say "Dope Smoking Moron" is about them? Nah, because they aren't crazy, you crazy person. Who is the crack hoe looking for a fix again? Yeah ......
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Post by Sharbs on Jun 13, 2020 6:10:45 GMT
please, nothing but news or love here. this has devolved into combative name-calling and it's below petty, especially in a thread that touches on tragedies that people are trying to process and discuss deep-seeded policies that lawmakers are trying to fix meaningfully.
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Post by quetee on Jun 13, 2020 6:14:53 GMT
please, nothing but news or love here. this has devolved into combative name-calling and it's below petty, especially in a thread that touches on tragedies that people are actually trying to process and discuss deep-seeded policies that lawmakers are trying to fix meaningfully. Yes, you are right and I hate that I had to be a petty bitch but I am not going to allow someone to bully me.
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Post by quetee on Jun 13, 2020 6:20:43 GMT
Yes, I do and I am not wrong. All anyone has to do is roll the video tape. You have been following me around like a crack hoe looking for her next fix. So much privilege................... "I" ........" I am not wrong" ........."me" If you can post ONE TIME where you were actually followed because if people are going to think every Replacements song I post is "about" them couldn't everyone say "Dope Smoking Moron" is about them? Nah, because they aren't crazy, you crazy person. Who is the crack hoe looking for a fix again? Yeah ...... At least I'm not lying about something just to win an argument. All anyone has to do is go and check that thread and see that you started posting in that thread in 2017 and it took you damn near two years to post a song from your "favorite band". You have posted well over 100 times and you wanna know how many times including today that you have posted their songs?? Six. Not too many bro. So for a band that you claim to love to death considering how many times you have posted in that thread.... nobody believes your bullshit. So I stand by what I said....TROLL. Now, why don't you take a cue from that song....
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Post by quetee on Jun 13, 2020 6:24:11 GMT
Like I said, you thought you were being slick with your SHUT UP passive aggressive post and I called you out on it. So you think me posting a song by my favorite band - who I post like every 2 days was about YOU even though it was not a reply in any way at all............and YOU called me on it.......yeah um...........there's no I in team quetee.........there's no U in team either......... But there are two U's in the phrase " q uetee is a privileged l unatic." The lies... check the thread, bro. You haven't posted a song since Feb. Every two days, my ass. Lies..............
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 13, 2020 7:45:48 GMT
So you think me posting a song by my favorite band - who I post like every 2 days was about YOU even though it was not a reply in any way at all............and YOU called me on it.......yeah um...........there's no I in team quetee.........there's no U in team either......... But there are two U's in the phrase " q uetee is a privileged l unatic." The lies... check the thread, bro. You haven't posted a song since Feb. Every two days, my ass. Lies.............. I posted a song on Jun 11th ........at 2:57........I posted a song at June 11th at 12:25.........I posted a song at Jun 11th 12:34. Across a ton of threads in the Music board.......
GTFO, sis
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 13, 2020 8:05:41 GMT
please, nothing but news or love here. this has devolved into combative name-calling and it's below petty, especially in a thread that touches on tragedies that people are actually trying to process and discuss deep-seeded policies that lawmakers are trying to fix meaningfully. Yes, you are right and I hate that I had to be a petty bitch but I am not going to allow someone to bully me. No one was bullying you. You PM'd me aggressively first (see above) because of a mistake you made (in a different thread), then responded to a post of mine in this thread (see earlier) which was to someone else (not you) because you were looking for a fight with me (see PM) and then ..................you lost your damned mind ....... .................... if you want to kick someone's ass about it............... kick your own.
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Post by cherry68 on Jun 13, 2020 10:14:19 GMT
It's sad that this thread is about racism, and still a lot of you use old as an insult.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 13, 2020 16:07:52 GMT
I believe this may be the most explicit call for police disbanding in a major paper yet - from Sunday's NYT - op/ed. This is a leading figure on the Left on this issue ...I'm posting it because it's going to be referenced a lot and yeah I think it makes my point for me....... but also for those of you that want to follow the discussion regardless of your political POV..........worth a read at some point.........and as always with the NYT some of the most astute comments come from their cross-section of readers. But don’t get me wrong. We are not abandoning our communities to violence. We don’t want to just close police departments. We want to make them obsolete.
www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 13, 2020 21:58:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2020 23:56:16 GMT
The surveillance video from the Wendy's (obviously graphic content within) -
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 14, 2020 0:14:24 GMT
The surveillance video from the Wendy's (obviously graphic content within) - pacinoyes hot take on this - I'd argue LEGALLY that you could call this in some ways worse than George Floyd - in some ways I said, legally (calm down, hear me out) - the cop with his knee in Floyd's neck you could make a case lost his mind - maybe had no intent to kill - he zoned out like a sick barbarian, he perhaps snapped. But here the suspect though he was intoxicated and stole the taser and was fleeing you KNEW he wasn't armed with deadly force (just the taser) on his side and could easily be caught anyway - he was drunk in a fairly closed off environment.......it is a shocking tape to me at THIS particular time and an unnecessary gross escalation - it appears that way at least for now anyway.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 14, 2020 0:31:36 GMT
The surveillance video from the Wendy's (obviously graphic content within) - pacinoyes hot take on this - I'd argue LEGALLY that you could call this in some ways worse than George Floyd - in some ways I said, legally (calm down, hear me out) - the cop with his knee in Floyd's neck you could make a case lost his mind - maybe had no intent to kill - he zoned out like a sick barbarian, he perhaps snapped. But here the suspect though he was intoxicated and stole the taser and was fleeing you KNEW he wasn't armed with deadly force (just the taser) on his side and could easily be caught anyway - he was drunk in a fairly closed off environment.......it is a shocking tape to me at THIS particular time and an unnecessary gross escalation - it appears that way at least for now anyway. Amen. I was just discussing this with my mother for a second opinion, and we came to the same conclusion. A man fleeing with a stun gun is not a threat, and no cop has any fucking excuse to shoot him in the back. This is a big reason why I'm in favor of gun control. Get rid of guns, and we get rid of sick cops doing this shit.
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Post by Joaquim on Jun 14, 2020 20:31:42 GMT
How about you just answer the question then - who on the US right is a valid voice on police? Ben Shapiro? Ann Coulter? Michelle Malkin? Is Matt Taibbi - a clear leftist who would read this board and run screaming and who echoes Carlson on this (or vice versa)..........George Will? No One? Simple question - anyone at all - drop Carlson - anyone else? Side note: You're not an anarchist........... but you're not a capitalist either so there's that and the student part....... why should there be a valid voice on police on the right? i would say that there doesn't need to be a valid voice on any side for any singular thing. i'm a leftist, but i am staunchly pro-gun, so it's entirely possible there are some rightwingers that i agree with on gun rights - but i know other leftists who are pro-gun control that would say that there are no (american) rightwingers who are a valid voice on gun ownership. i believe the police need to be disbanded and defunded - show me a rightwinger who says that and i'll see if we happen to line up. Just dismantle the fucking thing and start from scratch
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Post by quetee on Jun 14, 2020 21:41:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 23:04:13 GMT
The fear of black men is real.
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Post by quetee on Jun 14, 2020 23:34:36 GMT
The fear of black men is real. He looks biracial. The problem is even if you comply, you still get a gun in your face? Cops need to understand that not everyone is resisting, some people know their rights and excise them. I'm sure this type of situation is scary for all parties but if someone wants to speak to your supervisor then why not just do it? Also, I bet you the driver was afraid to even move. I know I would be.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2020 0:26:28 GMT
Police bodycam footage released from Atlanta PD showing moments leading up to death of Rayshard Brooks -
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Post by Good God on Jun 15, 2020 20:25:02 GMT
You know what's missing in this discussion? Empirical evidence and data.And there are papers on what happens following media-fueled de-policing, so good job, America, on effectively killing a thousand more people because of what a tiny minority of cops that are pieces of shit did.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 15, 2020 20:40:09 GMT
You know what's missing in this discussion? Empirical evidence and data.And there are papers on what happens following media-fueled de-policing, so good job, America, on effectively killing a thousand more people because of what a vast minority of cops that are pieces of shit did. Absolutely fncking right. Thank you for posting - I was going to post this today but was like "Fnck it" no ones listening for real on this.........to me anyway. I'm not sure anyone here is going to read Roland Fryer - a black Harvard conservative - because he's outside their echo chamber ........if this board won't listen to Heather MacDonald and her endless stats (yeah and sometimes they're sketchy but not always, at all) - if she's "not worth engaging with" ......I doubt they'll read Fryer unfortunately but I hope so......
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Post by Good God on Jun 15, 2020 21:12:53 GMT
Absolutely fncking right. Thank you for posting - I was going to post this today but was like "Fnck it" no ones listening for real on this.........to me anyway. Unfortunately, we live in a time when appearing to be right is more appealing than actually being right.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 15, 2020 21:15:52 GMT
You know what's missing in this discussion? Empirical evidence and data.And there are papers on what happens following media-fueled de-policing, so good job, America, on effectively killing a thousand more people because of what a tiny minority of cops that are pieces of shit did. Working my way through it, but I'm gonna take a break. Compelling read, I suggest that everyone take a look.
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Post by Film Socialism on Jun 15, 2020 23:06:48 GMT
You know what's missing in this discussion? Empirical evidence and data.And there are papers on what happens following media-fueled de-policing, so good job, America, on effectively killing a thousand more people because of what a tiny minority of cops that are pieces of shit did. good job indeed for making cops not interact with civilians quite as much as they do, firing 3 people, and otherwise offering no significant structural changes in policing, which would in turn lead to more violent communities! it is almost as if liberal reform tactics do little to solve the problem and often have direct downsides. if viral incidents are what cause the uptick and not the police brutality itself, i mean, this much seems obvious given that rioting is going to have lots of adverse economic effects on many people along with everything that goes with that. so yes, felonies if you are looking at it over time. you may notice that the methods which are proposed by police abolitionists seek to better the lives of people who would be in those criminal situations to begin with as opposed to what is effectively the lockheed martin pride flag in terms of police reform. what is the flipside here anyways? don't allow police abuse to go viral? the studies clearly mention that it is the nationwide reaction that happens in response to these events, so should they not be publicized? or, the flipside: would one argue that police presence should be increased as a result of protesting brutality? we are seeing that in dozens of cities right now, if not hundreds, and it is an absolute disaster. what is the solution here? on a final note while it hardly discredits the data en masse: fbi crime statistics to my knowledge can be submitted at will by departments but there is no formal requirement to, meaning that there is little data verification on either end in the process. this combined with how insanely corrupt most police departments are (and how the ONLY data showing significant positive upticks in crime are those with viral incidents as opposed to non-viral) makes me wonder how reliable these numbers are, though even if they are all being honest in their reporting, it still isn't saying "the solution is to keep the police system exactly the way it is" or anything.
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