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Post by quetee on Jun 12, 2020 20:49:36 GMT
Well as someone who works with statistics for his actual job I am loving the preening arrogance of a mere student thinking that she's not a master of statistics.......so yeah LMAO right back at ya comrade my degree is in statistics, i've been out of college for years now & work in data lmao. but go on about how someone who thinks stop and frisk has good data behind it is a master of statistical analysis or whatever This reminds me of the time when Halle's ex-boyfriend decided to pick a fight with current boyfriend but didn't realize he was a trained boxer.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 12, 2020 20:52:22 GMT
Well as someone who works with statistics for his actual job I am loving the preening arrogance of a mere student thinking that she's not a master of statistics.......so yeah LMAO right back at ya comrade my degree is in statistics, i've been out of college for years now & work in data lmao. but go on about how someone who thinks stop and frisk has good data behind it is a master of statistical analysis or whatever Oh, cool I didn't know they called "living in mom's basement during the pandemic!" - "working in data" now? Good to know.......
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Post by quetee on Jun 12, 2020 20:58:26 GMT
my degree is in statistics, i've been out of college for years now & work in data lmao. but go on about how someone who thinks stop and frisk has good data behind it is a master of statistical analysis or whatever Oh, cool I didn't know they called "living in mom's basement during the pandemic!" - "working in data" now? Good to know....... Huh? What is your degree in and how long have you been out of your mama's basement?
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 12, 2020 21:04:52 GMT
Oh, cool I didn't know they called "living in mom's basement during the pandemic!" - "working in data" now? Good to know....... Huh? What is your degree in and how long have you been out of your mama's basement? Well my degree should be in "schooling quetee" but that's more of something I just dabble in sometimes .........also was I speaking to you at all? Nope......so check your privilege.......go hate a cop........or whatever it is that you do around here.
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Post by quetee on Jun 12, 2020 21:10:41 GMT
Huh? What is your degree in and how long have you been out of your mama's basement? Well my degree should be in "schooling quetee" but that's more of something I just dabble in sometimes .........also was I speaking to you at all? Nope......so check your privilege.......go hate a cop........or whatever it is that you do around here. LMAO!!!. You dabble in dick. Was I speaking to you when I posted that funny song that went viral? It was a thread about what song are you listening to right now and that was it... and why do I like that song.... well, cause that shit is funny and it has a jamming beat. But your troll ass decided to be passive aggressive and post that stupid song. As for hating cops... umm, I hate the bad ones. Period. Now while you are asking somebody else what they do... why don't you ask yourself the same thing boo... you the one who needs to be checked.... and them are the facts... Jack.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 12, 2020 21:23:28 GMT
Well my degree should be in "schooling quetee" but that's more of something I just dabble in sometimes .........also was I speaking to you at all? Nope......so check your privilege.......go hate a cop........or whatever it is that you do around here. 1. LMAO!!!. You dabble in dick. 2. Was I speaking to you when I posted that funny song that went viral? It was a thread about what song are you listening to right now 3. ... you the one who needs to be checked.... and them are the facts... Jack. 1. Homophobic 2. I didn't reply to that post of yours (?) - I don't care what song your listening to now ........although right now I am listening to "You Lose" by The Replacements. Um........ 3. .............and if I need to be checked by anyone it isn't gong to be by you and the only facts that I know of that relate to a "Jack" would be Jack Nicholson - as in 7 time BAFTA nominee, 3 time BAFTA winner Jack Nicholson.......as opposed to say 0 time BAFTA nominee Denzel Washington.
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Post by quetee on Jun 12, 2020 21:43:49 GMT
1. LMAO!!!. You dabble in dick. 2. Was I speaking to you when I posted that funny song that went viral? It was a thread about what song are you listening to right now 3. ... you the one who needs to be checked.... and them are the facts... Jack. 1. Homophobic 2. I didn't reply to that post of yours (?) - I don't care what song your listening to now ........although right now I am listening to "You Lose" by The Replacements. Um........ 3. .............and if I need to be checked by anyone it isn't gong to be by you and the only facts that I know of that relate to a "Jack" would be Jack Nicholson - as in 7 time BAFTA nominee, 3 time BAFTA winner Jack Nicholson.......as opposed to say 0 time BAFTA nominee Denzel Washington. You're either clueless or old. Please.... nobody is that stupid. Anyone with half of brain knows exactly what you meant. Last time I checked two was greater than one and that one was not even deserved. Oscar historians probably should put an asterisk next to Pacino's name. Yes, you are so right. Last I heard Denzel was soooooooooo depressed cause an award body that 1% of Americans know about failed to give him a nomination. Maybe Denzel and Morgan should start their own group: NWOBAFTA's. Now, it appears you are bored and have nothing else better to do besides harass black women on the internet cause they speak their truth in regards to police violence. If anyone needs to check his privilege. It's you.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 12, 2020 22:13:31 GMT
You're either clueless or old. Please.... nobody is that stupid. Last time I checked two was greater than one and that one was not even deserved. Oscar historians probably should put an asterisk next to Pacino's name.
Now, it appears you are bored and have nothing else better to do besides harass black women on the internet cause they speak their truth in regards to police violence. If anyone needs to check his privilege. It's you. You do NOT want to have this talk Al Pacino has beaten Denzel Washington's brains in for 35 years in a row - for every second of every minute of every day of every week for 35 years in a row for every award that didn't involve Russell Crowe losing it for punching somebody. GTFO - why are you bringing up Al Pacino - I didn't bring him up! I recopied the stats here for you so you can "study the data"? I'm not harrassing you - you replied to me .....also I don't know that you're a black woman (?) - you can just leave me alone and go play in traffic .....(?) Also you've now called me "gay" .... "stupid"...... "old". Wtf I didn't call you any names? What's next are you going to attack my race like a low-key racist? Wtf! Awards don't matter (at all) but just to frame the differences between them:
Washington finally equaled Pacino's Oscar nods in 2017 - after not catching him for 30-35 years of his career - he now trails by him by 1.
Washington has just half of Pacino's Golden Globe nods - 18 to 9 (!) - with 0 nods for GG comedy acting and with 2 fewer wins too.
Washington famously has zero BAFTA nods - that's 6 less than Pacino - with 1 fewer win.
Pacino has 3 more Emmy nods and 2 more Emmy wins.
On stage - Pacino has 1 more Tony nod with 1 more Tony win.
But even if you forget about all that - Pacino wins in comedic work (clearly here, objectively), and at absolute highest peak dramatic work and the amount of special work imo. He outpaces him in Best Picture nodded films or if you prefer even in the amount of just iconic films overall.
He's worked with more top level directors and did more diverse types of acting too - with several great ensembles, and with better
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jun 12, 2020 22:32:52 GMT
Trump is about to start his campaign, so I'm glad to get this George Floyd shit out of the news. It's really boring.
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Post by quetee on Jun 12, 2020 22:37:23 GMT
You're either clueless or old. Please.... nobody is that stupid. Last time I checked two was greater than one and that one was not even deserved. Oscar historians probably should put an asterisk next to Pacino's name.
Now, it appears you are bored and have nothing else better to do besides harass black women on the internet cause they speak their truth in regards to police violence. If anyone needs to check his privilege. It's you. You do NOT want to have this talk Al Pacino has beaten Denzel Washington's brains in for 35 years in a row - for every second of every minute of every day of every week for 35 years in a row for every award that didn't involve Russell Crowe losing it for punching somebody. GTFO - why are you bringing up Al Pacino - I didn't bring him up! I recopied the stats here for you so you can "study the data"? I'm not harrassing you - you replied to me .....also I don't know that you're a black woman (?) - you can just leave me alone and go play in traffic .....(?) Also you've now called me "gay" .... "stupid"...... "old". Wtf I didn't call you any names? What's next are you going to attack my race like a low-key racist? Wtf! Awards don't matter (at all) but just to frame the differences between them:
Washington finally equaled Pacino's Oscar nods in 2017 - after not catching him for 30-35 years of his career - he now trails by him by 1.
Washington has just half of Pacino's Golden Globe nods - 18 to 9 (!) - with 0 nods for GG comedy acting and with 2 fewer wins too.
Washington famously has zero BAFTA nods - that's 6 less than Pacino - with 1 fewer win.
Pacino has 3 more Emmy nods and 2 more Emmy wins.
On stage - Pacino has 1 more Tony nod with 1 more Tony win.
But even if you forget about all that - Pacino wins in comedic work (clearly here, objectively), and at absolute highest peak dramatic work and the amount of special work imo. He outpaces him in Best Picture nodded films or if you prefer even in the amount of just iconic films overall.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 12, 2020 23:08:07 GMT
.....and by the way for everyone's information here: Here's quetee sending me a PM below on this sh it in an attempt to lull me into a fight ..... there is no corresponding PM from me to her - not a first PM and none in reply either
How entitled does quetee have to actually be to try and run this scam and then talk about someone else's "privilege" and then try invoke her race as a way to virtue signal to the whole board to gain sympathy ............and try to fool people into thinking she was somehow a "victim" today? Very similar to Jessie Smollett or some of Trump's hypocritical moves..... ...several proven false Twitter posts in this thread also and now this. Let's move on .......and remember if you're going to attempt to play somebody, don't play yourself. ********************************************************************************* quetee Based ****
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Post by mhynson27 on Jun 13, 2020 2:20:14 GMT
pacinoyes Dude, from the bottom of all our hearts, just shut the fuck up, no one cares. Stop playing the victim all the time, you're just as much of a bully as anyone else on this board, it's right here in this thread. Please stop derailing every thread with your argumentative bullshit.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 13, 2020 2:26:24 GMT
pacinoyes Dude, from the bottom of all our hearts, just shut the fuck up, no one cares. Stop playing the victim all the time, you're just as much of a bully as anyone else on this board, it's right here in this thread. Please stop derailing every thread with your argumentative bullshit. Sorry............ not sorry. She replied to me I didn't say sh it to her first ......and if you don't like it, don't read it .........and don't reply to me either ......... you can right fnck off too.....sound good?
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Jun 13, 2020 2:35:33 GMT
Okay, now I'm curious why you think the speaker at the end of Oliver's show was wrong. The cop speaking seemed more defensive than anything else, and all he did was condemn the murder of George Floyd... which many cops are doing, yes, but I'm referring to the numerous other bad cops violating the rights of peaceful protestors and treating them as enemies. Where are the cops speaking out against them? Re: Heather MacDonald and her work, Mike gave a nice response already, but the fact that she'd be baffled by people arguing civil rights violations in relation to stop and frisk is enough evidence on its own that she's horrible and not worth engaging with. You suggest that I blew you off and yet it doesn't seem like you're even taking the proposed alternative solutions connected to defunding the police that I posted seriously, and would rather make jokes. Sorry, Oliver is the one being childish in this discussion? Well I thought my problem with the speaker at the end of Oliver's video was quite clear within that "childish" joke actually. Not only is "Defunding the Police" a bad idea imo - but I do listen - it's just one that invites that exact level of absurdist humor. America has a gun problem and guns, like police, are not going anywhere and like Heather MacDonald observed - we're a REAL violent society - that needs cops and cops in the real world need more money or at least it's a state by state, county by county issue. I'm not saying there's not good in Defund the Police but there is no solution without law enforcement feedback, input as a staring point - everything starts with a police force staying in place and that looks far more like it already looks. The speaker at the end of the Oliver video is emotional and powerful but her brothers and sisters do own stuff and they invested in her community and while she's railing about "social contracts being broken" ......well I'd argue when anyone advocates what she's advocating (not her feelings), maybe helped break that social contract too. Heather MacDonald is "not worth engaging with" but she is (?) - she's advocating death, destruction, anarchy. I can't go there......what she said is where we start yes, but we do not find any answers in her screed. I'd say John Oliver, MacDonald, the woman in his video, and all POV are "worth engaging with". But so is this man below and so is David Dorn (RIP). ...........and let me see if I have this straight because this is how left-field you came off to me: In the video: The cop who didn't kill anyone or do anything wrong besides just BEING a cop and who must feel scared that someone may blow his head off any day now AND who represents the largest police union in America and has to speak on their entire behalf seemed "defensive" to you? If I said the woman in Olivier's video was "defensive" I'd be called racist .....or insensitive ......come on........ I've said this before: NO ONE thinks George Floyd wasn't flat out murdered and NO ONE advocates for peaceful protestors being attacked so maybe you could give one cop a break or use another word. THIS is "absolutely heartbreaking" too - and yeah the social contract has been broken for him too............. and he had a name too ....... Shay Mikalonis.
You may think I'm on the wrong side of this issue but hey I'm looking at it more like there's 0 people who mentioned him in this thread - or David Dorn - that aren't named pacinoyes .......... so when I'm not "childishly" joking............ I'm being deadly serious. Your original claim was that the speaker was well-intentioned and emotional but wrong AND that she referenced the wrong board game too... the joke pertained to defunding the police, which she did not actually address in the video, so it wasn't clear how you thought she was wrong in the first half of what you said. Do her brothers and sisters own the Target and the Hall of Fame, which she claims to not give a shit about in the video? And where is she advocating death? Sorry, I just think suggesting that people who support what she does "helped to break the social contract" is misguided when the contract was already broken long ago, and not by them. We may not find answers in her "screed," but it's wrong to criticize it for that because that was never the point of showing it on Oliver's show in the first place... the original point we started with was empathy. You presented the video of O'Meara as evidence of police officers speaking out against their colleagues, and I said how it didn't "fit my requirements." My response to the video was based on this initial framing. You make it sound like I would have made the same comment even without the expectation that its purpose would be to serve an evidentiary function. You say that no one advocates for peaceful protestors being attacked...but silence is complicity. It sounds like you're still operating on the assumption that "defund the police" means "get rid of the police altogether" when, as pointed out earlier, the police can still exist in some form, but some of their responsibilities would be reallocated. "Cops in the real world need more money... everything starts with a police force staying in place and that looks far more like it already looks" - when I read this it just sounds to me like reinforcing the status quo and preventing any kind of meaningful positive change from happening. I just can't agree that all perspectives are worth engaging with, not when some are from known pernicious people who view everything through a deeply problematic lens. Thank you for sharing the names of victims not mentioned in this thread... it's unfortunate that more people aren't talking about them.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 13, 2020 2:41:24 GMT
*sigh* I can't believe I'm siding with Quetee, but M. Hynson is right. You're just arguing to be an argumentative bastard now. I don't like the insinuations Quetee makes about anyone who doesn't fall in with whatever she wants people to think, but I just shrug it off.
And before when you were trying to be fair and post alternative views, you knew that this was a groupthink echo chamber anyway.
Sometimes, arguments can't be won or lost because nobody will come at them from the same place. For example, I see abortion as murder. Simple as that. It is a human life and you are killing it for your own convenience. Whereas pro-choice proponents will speak to the rights of the mother trumping the rights of the child. We will never come to an agreement because there is no shared belief. Not trying to start an argument on abortion, simply using an example of how these debates simply turn into ad hominem because the two sides will never have a common ground. It seems that is happening here.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 13, 2020 2:54:09 GMT
*sigh* I can't believe I'm siding with Quetee, but M. Hynson is right. You're just arguing to be an argumentative bastard now. You're entitled to your POV Martin and that goes for your POV on me too ....... If you want to post the specific part where I was being an "argumentative bastard" please do so ............ because the only post I made in this thread today was to Cake - it was 100% legit and so was Cake's reply....... if you got something you want to enter that supports what you have in bold, you can reference it I'd be curious.........if you don't want to ..........then that's fine too......
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Post by mhynson27 on Jun 13, 2020 3:06:48 GMT
pacinoyes Dude, from the bottom of all our hearts, just shut the fuck up, no one cares. Stop playing the victim all the time, you're just as much of a bully as anyone else on this board, it's right here in this thread. Please stop derailing every thread with your argumentative bullshit. Sorry............ not sorry. She replied to me I didn't say sh it to her first ......and if you don't like it, don't read it .........and don't reply to me either ......... you can right fnck off too.....sound good? I'm not just talking about the way you've been going back and forth with Quetee. The way you've constantly been shitting on Film_Socialism and making comments about him 'living in his Mum's basement' is getting so tiresome.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jun 13, 2020 3:09:13 GMT
*sigh* I can't believe I'm siding with Quetee, but M. Hynson is right. You're just arguing to be an argumentative bastard now. You're entitled to your POV Martin and that goes for your POV on me too ....... If you want to post the specific part where I was being an "argumentative bastard" please do so ............ because the only post I made in this thread today was to Cake - it was 100% legit and so was Cake's reply....... if you got something you want to enter that supports what you have in bold, you can reference it I'd be curious.........if you don't want to ..........then that's fine too...... Wait what??? You've made posts replying to both Quetee and Film_Socialism today, what are you on about??
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 13, 2020 3:15:09 GMT
Sorry............ not sorry. She replied to me I didn't say sh it to her first ......and if you don't like it, don't read it .........and don't reply to me either ......... you can right fnck off too.....sound good? I'm not just talking about the way you've been going back and forth with Quetee. The way you've constantly been shitting on Film_Socialism and making comments about him 'living in his Mum's basement' is getting so tiresome.That was said one time about his Mom's basement actually - and that was after he came at me in a conversation HE WASN"T INVOLVED IN anyway and he was making a joke so he got a joke back for his trouble........ Like I said ...........you don't like it, there's an "off" button you can use........
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 13, 2020 3:23:09 GMT
You're entitled to your POV Martin and that goes for your POV on me too ....... If you want to post the specific part where I was being an "argumentative bastard" please do so ............ because the only post I made in this thread today was to Cake - it was 100% legit and so was Cake's reply....... if you got something you want to enter that supports what you have in bold, you can reference it I'd be curious.........if you don't want to ..........then that's fine too...... Wait what??? You've made posts replying to both Quetee and Film_Socialism today, what are you on about??FS made a joke so he got a joke back.......quetee jumped into the reply to FS Neither was on thread topic .........so that's what I'm on about ........you have now posted 3 times about me in this thread in an hour so wtf are YOU on about? Don't care so much........it's a little weird tbh
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2020 4:07:14 GMT
Love this street mural painted in Charlotte (my hometown!) last weekend -
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Post by mhynson27 on Jun 13, 2020 4:22:06 GMT
Love this street mural painted in Charlotte (my hometown!) last weekend - That's fucking sick! Did they just paint it straight onto the street?
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Post by quetee on Jun 13, 2020 4:30:26 GMT
.....and by the way for everyone's information here: Here's quetee sending me a PM below on this sh it in an attempt to lull me into a fight ..... there is no corresponding PM from me to her - not a first PM and none in reply either
How entitled does quetee have to actually be to try and run this scam and then talk about someone else's "privilege" and then try invoke her race as a way to virtue signal to the whole board to gain sympathy ............and try to fool people into thinking she was somehow a "victim" today? Very similar to Jessie Smollett or some of Trump's hypocritical moves..... ...several proven false Twitter posts in this thread also and now this. Let's move on .......and remember if you're going to attempt to play somebody, don't play yourself. ********************************************************************************* quetee Based ****
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Classic Troll Move..... I sent you that message which is the ONLY time I have ever sent you a message because I posted a funny viral video that is so catchy that I have been watching it non-stop cause the shit is funny and catchy. Elmo dancing to that beat cracks me up. The lyrics are too funny. Someone took a video and did a remix. That was posted in the music thread 11 hours ago... today. Then right after me, you posted a video with the title : SHUT UP. You did so cause you were upset because of the video's subject matter. That is why you got that message. You posting a video with that title was not a coincidence especially since the last time you posted in that thread was on 6/9 at noon. FACTS... Now, I didn't read the rest of your post above cause you are tired and acting silly.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 13, 2020 4:58:11 GMT
Yes, thank you - that's exactly what I said - you PM'd me - I never PM'd you (ever) - which you just admitted - I never replied to your music post (ever) directly which you also just admitted ............and any contact with you today started when you trolled me by replying on behalf of another use in this thread where you weren't being spoken to at all and felt you had the right to say anything to me - which of course you didn't - which was the result of you using your sense of entitlement and not checking your privilege. So glad we can finally agree on this!
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Post by quetee on Jun 13, 2020 5:07:20 GMT
Yes, thank you - that's exactly what I said - you PM'd me - I never PM'd you (ever) - which you just admitted - I never replied to your music post (ever) directly which you also just admitted ............and any contact with you today started when you trolled me by replying on behalf of another use in this thread where you weren't being spoken to at all and felt you had the right to say anything to me - which of course you didn't - which was the result of you using your sense of entitlement and not checking your privilege. So glad we can finally agree on this! I like how you gloss over the facts when YOU are in the wrong. Like I said, you thought you were being slick with your SHUT UP passive aggressive post and I called you out on it.
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