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Post by wendy on Feb 20, 2017 16:40:05 GMT
Just finished the second season, finally! What did we all think? I would say I liked it enough, it's not near the level of the first season but still very watchable. I have a problem with a lot of the didactic, expositional dialogue... this is an actual quote from the most recent episode: “Wait!!! I have to remember, i’m not following him… I am him! What I have to figure out is… where am I going????” Honestly a lot of it sounds straight out of an episode of Animorphs. Very juvenile. I think Malek's already-overly-demonstrative performance is hampered by it as well. This season he mostly just delivered (as best he could) the on-the-nose narration whilst giving his best That's So Raven face on camera: It works well enough but isn't particularly interesting after a certain point. The prison angle was dealt with particularly poorly, I thought, given the cleverness the writing has displayed before. And the '90s episode' seemed like a good idea at first (and was well executed), but it went on a lot longer than maybe it should have. As such, the highlights of this season for me were not Elliott and Mr Robot, but rather Angela's descent further and further into darkness (as she rises higher and higher at E Corp) and confusion about who she is... and the almost silent and blank, but searingly intense season Joanna had. I also liked the FBI angle surprisingly, i'm not usually a fan of Grace Gummer at all but she was really effective in what could have been a pretty unrealistic character. Joey Bada$$ impressed me, not the most challenging character but I didn't know he acted and he was very charismatic. One of those seasons where the supporting characters and their development become more interesting than the central themes and plotlines. I should also mention the soundtrack, this show has some of the most consistently great music supervision of any drama on the air today. Thoughts? Comments? Ratings? Favourite episode? Rank your favourite 5 performances of this season? For me: 1. Stephanie Corneliussen 2. Portia Doubleday (the episode where she sings "Everybody Wants To Rule The World" is a great Emmy tape for her, though they'll probably submit the one where she's in the room with the little girl) 3. B.D Wong (such a talented and versatile actor, this is the perfect character to showcase his abilities) 4. Grace Gummer 5. Sunita Mani
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Post by jakesully on Oct 15, 2017 12:03:42 GMT
Yeah. Loved the premiere & Cannavale was aces .
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Post by DeepArcher on Oct 15, 2017 16:58:12 GMT
Yeah, I'm giving the new season a try, even though I'm not huge on the show in general. The premiere was decent enough. Cannavale was indeed great. And I think I can get behind the implementation of Slater this season. It's also a bonus that Esmail hasn't crawled too far up his own ass yet, but that could easily change in a week or two. Still needs more Tyrell though.
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Post by AKenjiB on Nov 1, 2017 23:24:27 GMT
I'm really digging the season so far. I know it's only 3 episodes in, but I think it's gonna be better than season 2. Cannavale is fantastic. Didn't even recognize him at first. And I LOVED episode 3. One of season 2's biggest weaknesses was the lack of Tyrell Wellick so it was great to see them make up for that here.
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Post by DeepArcher on Dec 1, 2017 2:28:51 GMT
This season has honestly been the pleasant surprise of the year so far for television. Think I prefer it to the first.
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Post by cheesecake on Dec 1, 2017 3:40:21 GMT
I stopped part way into season two but am hoping to get back into it at some point.
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Post by jakesully on Oct 8, 2019 22:54:22 GMT
Absolutely loved the season 4 premiere and will definitely be sticking with this (as it is the final season of the series so I really want to see how this crazy shit ends!) There was a lot to digest in it.
Also, did anyone catch the Emmy Rossum cameo (as one of the Christmas carolers)? Thought that was pretty cool as she's the show creator's wife (lucky bastard!)
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Post by DeepArcher on Oct 9, 2019 21:44:47 GMT
Oh shit, that already premiered? I had no idea.
Season 3 definitely won me over so I'll be sure to check out the final season. Just too much TV to keep up with atm and not enough time, so chances are I'll just binge this once the entire season has aired.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Oct 10, 2019 8:05:26 GMT
Caught up on S2 and S3 a couple months ago and am mildly obsessed (though I wasn't crazy about some of S3's developments). I remember back in 2015 having no idea how they were going to follow up the hack in S1 plus the Christian Slater revelation, but they doubled down on it and created a wonderfully textured alternate dystopian reality. It's scary how realistic it felt. shout-out to freakin BD Wong who KILLED IT on this show. Can't wait to binge S4!
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Post by DeepArcher on Dec 21, 2019 6:37:27 GMT
I've been catching up on this and am eight episodes into it now, and this season is fucking fantastic. Probably one of the most purely melancholy seasons of television that I've ever seen, but without being relentlessly bleak either. It's devastating and actually feels real (something that earlier seasons of this show struggled with), but at the same time is just mesmerizing in its propulsive storytelling and the steady tension that remains constant throughout the entire thing. And all with that holiday season aesthetic that I adore so much! The silent episode was indeed very good -- even if BoJack did it first and did it better! And the other standout for most has been "Proxy Authentication Error," which was fucking *excellent*, even if the five-act structure thing and the aspect ratio maybe felt a bit try-hard, it's a fantastic episode that sort of earns that level of posturing and I like the extent to which Esmail embraced the theatricality of it all and the elements of melodrama (I was even willing to believe the thunderstorm in New York on Christmas Day!). Malek has never been better than he was here, and Elliot Villar was sensational as well. BD Wong and Michael Cristofer have also crushed it this season, even if they kinda both weirdly disappeared for the mid-season. Once again this season needs way more Tyrell, but he hasn't been the same character since the first season anyway so I'm not sure that would've really made a huge difference.
And I gotta say, for as much as this season has basked in its main set-pieces, I think the moments that have stuck with me the most are the quieter ones ... the scenes between Elliot and Olivia in ep. 3, the final five or ten minutes of ep. 4, etc. ... as I said, it's among the most melancholy seasons of television I've ever seen, and in those tender, humanistic moments, this really hits hard. Assuming it doesn't take some huge downturn in quality as it nears the end, this is probably comfortably the best season of the show (and I really liked the third). I'm looking forward to the rest, so, don't fuck it up, Esmail!
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 21, 2019 6:58:47 GMT
Yeah this show has been terrific. Clearly Esmail has known where he wanted to go and has given himself enough time to get there. Can't wait to see what the two-part finale brings but so far I've mostly loved it. I know most would say the big reveal episode about Elliot's past (still at 10/10 on IMDb with over 10K votes, how bout that) but "409 Conflict" has been my favorite so far. One of the best episodes of the the whole year let alone the best in the show's history.
There are still a couple nitpicky things in the back of my mind that hold me back ever so slightly, but Esmail's sheer confidence and hold over his craft and his storytelling (and the performance and the show's mesmerizing aesthetic) is so brilliant and exciting that they're very easy to ignore. I've loved this show the whole way through. Looking forward to seeing what Esmail does after this because whatever it is, I'm watching it.
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Post by AKenjiB on Dec 22, 2019 19:18:38 GMT
This season has been incredible. If it doesn’t get a Drama series nomination at the Emmys next year, I’m gonna be pissed. I have absolutely no idea what to expect from the final 2 episodes but I’m really excited to watch them!
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Post by DeepArcher on Dec 24, 2019 16:20:19 GMT
That series finale fucking wrecked me. Damn.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 25, 2019 6:09:37 GMT
Just finished the finale and am openly sobbing. The scene in the hospital... I couldn't I had no fucking idea how this was going to end and I had no idea it was going to be this good. If anyone didn't believe that Esmail knew exactly where he was going from day 1 on this project, this two-part finale is the only required evidence to the contrary. It ties everything so neatly with explanations that are as brilliant as they are shocking, both in their revelation and in the realization of how well they encapsulate everything you've already seen. My mind is blown and my tear-ducts are empty.
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Post by DeepArcher on Dec 25, 2019 6:25:29 GMT
Just finished the finale and am openly sobbing. The scene in the hospital... I couldn't I had no fucking idea how this was going to end and I had no idea it was going to be this good. If anyone didn't believe that Esmail knew exactly where he was going from day 1 on this project, this two-part finale is the only required evidence to the contrary. It ties everything so neatly with explanations that are as brilliant as they are shocking, both in their revelation and in the realization of how well they encapsulate everything you've already seen. My mind is blown and my tear-ducts are empty. Yeah, only flaw I had with that entire two-parter was the big exposition dump that Krista had, which was very ending of Psycho-esque in a way. But the first part was just perfection and utterly devastating, and the second part followed it up in a way that was appropriately twisty and just a huge emotional gut-punch, the final five to ten minutes is one of the most beautiful endings to a series that I've ever seen. So happy this show stuck the landing with the finale and the final season in general ... as one of its skeptics back when its first season aired and got an insane amount of hype as the next big thing, it made me happy to see this show really come around on me in its last two seasons and offer up so much brilliance in the final stretch. I know some feel like Esmail left some loose threads dangling (Tyrell's fate, Whiterose's machine) but to me it feels pretty obvious that those things were left deliberately ambiguous and I don't think I would've liked answers to them anyway; there was already plenty of explanation in that finale, I'm glad we didn't get more of it and that Esmail continued to focus on his characters and the emotional fabric of the story. Don't think I'll be forgetting this ending anytime soon.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 25, 2019 19:57:49 GMT
Yeah, only flaw I had with that entire two-parter was the big exposition dump that Krista had, which was very ending of Psycho-esque in a way. But the first part was just perfection and utterly devastating, and the second part followed it up in a way that was appropriately twisty and just a huge emotional gut-punch, the final five to ten minutes is one of the most beautiful endings to a series that I've ever seen. So happy this show stuck the landing with the finale and the final season in general ... as one of its skeptics back when its first season aired and got an insane amount of hype as the next big thing, it made me happy to see this show really come around on me in its last two seasons and offer up so much brilliance in the final stretch. That actually didn't bother me all that much. For one thing, I had no clue what was going on. I needed a damn explanation But also I think it was reasonably organic the way they handled it too. According to the logic of the scene, Krista is expositing because Elliottis either unaware of what's happening or unwilling to accept it. I mean yeah, it's clearly for the audience's benefit but Esmail put in the work to have it at least make sense in-universe. I know some feel like Esmail left some loose threads dangling ( Tyrell's fate, Whiterose's machine) but to me it feels pretty obvious that those things were left deliberately ambiguous and I don't think I would've liked answers to them anyway. I'm positive Tyrell is dead and whatever light he saw in the forest was just his imagination, and the fact that Esmail never expounded on it further confirms it. Not sure what the point of the light was. The show is so full of symbolic imagery that I'm sure if I was paying closer attention there was some symbolic justification for it, but either way, he's deader than a doornail.
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Post by Sharbs on Nov 15, 2020 6:56:26 GMT
I’m over-emotional and I needlessly talk in absolutes so this may change in the future. But this final season and overall concept of a show completely shatters any harping I can do on some of the clunkiness that preceded it making it one of the best series in existence
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Post by DaleCooper on Jun 28, 2021 19:13:16 GMT
Finished the show yesterday. Very good show overall. First, third and fourth seasons are fantastic, second much weaker.
The final season I thought was absolutely bloody brilliant up until the final three episodes. Didn't think the reveal in the last episode worked that well, though. I know that this was something that had been planned from the start as it was originally written as a movie. But where the reveal in the brilliant seventh episdoe worked so well because this had been something the series had built towards the entire time with (mastermind) Elliot and Mr Robot, I don't quite think there was enough in the show for me to think it was that much a pay off for that twist. If they were gonna end it (plot wise) with some threads left dangling, I would have liked it to end a few episodes earlier with him destroying the machine or whatnot.
Not to fussed about it though, it was a pleasure to watch (apart from season 2) and had a number of episodes right up there with the best episodes of the past decade.
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Post by Viced on Nov 14, 2021 16:11:22 GMT
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