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Post by stephen on Jul 12, 2021 12:52:46 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 12, 2021 13:03:57 GMT
Say this all the the time but he's got as many, or more great performances as Hanks/Spacey/Washington/Penn do (the 2 time Oscar winners in his class) and he's got a whole lot that you can't imagine ANY of them playing at all....... 4 positive so far on RT...let's see how high this goes........sounds like a new "Joe" which is one of his best www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pig_2021
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Post by stephen on Jul 12, 2021 13:24:19 GMT
Say this all the the time but he's got as many, or more great performances as Hanks/Spacey/Washington/Penn do (the 2 time Oscar winners in his class) and he's got a whole lot that you can't imagine ANY of them playing at all....... 4 positive so far on RT...let's see how high this goes........sounds like a new "Joe" which is one of his best www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pig_2021My love for Cage is well-documented, as I consider him America's most inherently talented actor. I feel the meme-ification of him coupled with the known reason he does some of the schlockier films (i.e. his tax issues) has undercut him in comparison to those lofty names you mentioned as peers, but Cage's auteur roster beats the living hell out of any of his contemporaries bar Tom Cruise (and even then, you could argue that comes down to a draw). What makes me love Cage in addition to his innate talent is he rarely half-asses it; if he's going to be in a bad film, he almost always will elevate it in some way. It may not be good work, but I never have seen a performance where I felt like Cage had disdain for the material (which is more than I can say for other Oscar-winning actors when they slum it; feel free to pontificate on who I'm referring to). But pound for pound, put Cage against any of these other guys and I think he's capable of more and willing to go further, deeper, and blaze his own unique path.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 12, 2021 13:39:20 GMT
Say this all the the time but he's got as many, or more great performances as Hanks/Spacey/Washington/Penn do (the 2 time Oscar winners in his class) and he's got a whole lot that you can't imagine ANY of them playing at all....... 4 positive so far on RT...let's see how high this goes........sounds like a new "Joe" which is one of his best www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pig_2021My love for Cage is well-documented, as I consider him America's most inherently talented actor. I feel the meme-ification of him coupled with the known reason he does some of the schlockier films (i.e. his tax issues) has undercut him in comparison to those lofty names you mentioned as peers, but Cage's auteur roster beats the living hell out of any of his contemporaries bar Tom Cruise (and even then, you could argue that comes down to a draw). What makes me love Cage in addition to his innate talent is he rarely half-asses it; if he's going to be in a bad film, he almost always will elevate it in some way. It may not be good work, but I never have seen a performance where I felt like Cage had disdain for the material (which is more than I can say for other Oscar-winning actors when they slum it; feel free to pontificate on who I'm referring to). But pound for pound, put Cage against any of these other guys and I think he's capable of more and willing to go further, deeper, and blaze his own unique path. I can't really stand the discourse around Cage, and if I'm being honest, I think only a white male (and certainly no woman could get the free pass some want to give him) could do so much consistently poor, hammy work (he should have flat out won a Razzie for Jui-Jitsu last year) yet be excused for it (by some) because he does something decent with an auteurist filmmaker in between repeated bouts of awfulness . He's a reasonably talented, hugely inconsistent actor. Of which there have been many in the history of film. He's not really that unique in that regard.But these hottakes make me inclined to roll my eyes a bit. Still, you take Cage, I'll take Matt Damon
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Post by stephen on Jul 12, 2021 13:41:04 GMT
My love for Cage is well-documented, as I consider him America's most inherently talented actor. I feel the meme-ification of him coupled with the known reason he does some of the schlockier films (i.e. his tax issues) has undercut him in comparison to those lofty names you mentioned as peers, but Cage's auteur roster beats the living hell out of any of his contemporaries bar Tom Cruise (and even then, you could argue that comes down to a draw). What makes me love Cage in addition to his innate talent is he rarely half-asses it; if he's going to be in a bad film, he almost always will elevate it in some way. It may not be good work, but I never have seen a performance where I felt like Cage had disdain for the material (which is more than I can say for other Oscar-winning actors when they slum it; feel free to pontificate on who I'm referring to). But pound for pound, put Cage against any of these other guys and I think he's capable of more and willing to go further, deeper, and blaze his own unique path. I can't really stand the discourse around Cage, and if I'm being honest, I think only a white male (and certainly no woman could get the free pass some want to give him) could do so much consistently poor, hammy work (he should have flat out won a Razzie for Jui-Jitsu last year) yet be excused for it (by some) because he does something decent with an auteurist filmmaker in between in repeated bouts of awfulness . He's a reasonably talented, hugely inconsistent actor. Of which there have been many in the history of film. He's not really that unique in that regard.But these hottakes make me inclined to roll my eyes a bit. Okay.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 12, 2021 13:44:57 GMT
I can't really stand the discourse around Cage, and if I'm being honest, I think only a white male (and certainly no woman could get the free pass some want to give him) could do so much consistently poor, hammy work (he should have flat out won a Razzie for Jui-Jitsu last year) yet be excused for it (by some) because he does something decent with an auteurist filmmaker in between in repeated bouts of awfulness . He's a reasonably talented, hugely inconsistent actor. Of which there have been many in the history of film. He's not really that unique in that regard.But these hottakes make me inclined to roll my eyes a bit. Okay. Still love ya though, despite the Cage Rage!
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 12, 2021 14:06:15 GMT
My love for Cage is well-documented, as I consider him America's most inherently talented actor. I feel the meme-ification of him coupled with the known reason he does some of the schlockier films (i.e. his tax issues) has undercut him in comparison to those lofty names you mentioned as peers, but Cage's auteur roster beats the living hell out of any of his contemporaries bar Tom Cruise (and even then, you could argue that comes down to a draw). What makes me love Cage in addition to his innate talent is he rarely half-asses it; if he's going to be in a bad film, he almost always will elevate it in some way. It may not be good work, but I never have seen a performance where I felt like Cage had disdain for the material (which is more than I can say for other Oscar-winning actors when they slum it; feel free to pontificate on who I'm referring to). But pound for pound, put Cage against any of these other guys and I think he's capable of more and willing to go further, deeper, and blaze his own unique path. I can't really stand the discourse around Cage, and if I'm being honest, I think only a white male (and certainly no woman could get the free pass some want to give him) could do so much consistently poor, hammy work (he should have flat out won a Razzie for Jui-Jitsu last year) yet be excused for it (by some) because he does something decent with an auteurist filmmaker in between repeated bouts of awfulness . He's a reasonably talented, hugely inconsistent actor. Of which there have been many in the history of film. He's not really that unique in that regard.But these hottakes make me inclined to roll my eyes a bit. 100% agree!!!!
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 12, 2021 15:13:26 GMT
This is actually playing theatrically near me - go figure - so maybe I'll blow off work to see it on the big screen in the next couple of days........ Cage may be inconsistent but he IS unique......people can hate his crappy films all they want but like I said at least as many good ones as anybody in his generation and roles none of them could play.....and a bad film does not invalidate a good one and a bad performance doesn't invalidate a good one either...... I don't hold his duds against him or give him credit for trying to save bad films - both of those are bad takes imo .........it's just a matter of how many performances work to me......not his ratio / batting average....... I'm just saying he has enough ones that do work to rival Hanks/Penn/Washington/Spacey ...... Anyway - this is just 92 minutes long which seems very short for what's described here and Cage apparently does not speak for his first 9 minutes on-screen according to the Hollywood Reporter .......like a mini-TWBB.......ummmmmmm www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pig_2021
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 13, 2021 21:35:36 GMT
Say this all the the time but he's got as many, or more great performances as Hanks/Spacey/Washington/Penn do (the 2 time Oscar winners in his class) and he's got a whole lot that you can't imagine ANY of them playing at all....... 4 positive so far on RT...let's see how high this goes........sounds like a new "Joe" which is one of his best www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pig_2021Up to 96% off 24 reviews
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jul 13, 2021 23:00:09 GMT
This actually looks... good *GULP*.
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Post by quetee on Jul 13, 2021 23:09:13 GMT
Is a nod possible? This looks like a good performance.
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Post by stephen on Jul 13, 2021 23:13:12 GMT
Is a nod possible? This looks like a good performance. Neon's doing very well but this is far too much of an early release and a bit of an "out there" premise to me a strong contender. It would need to make (piggy) bank to make up for that, which I don't really see happening. But I do think there is potential for Cage to be a dark horse for some critics' prizes, and a Spirit Award has to be in the cards for him. I'm not predicting him, but I'd love to see Nicolas Cage back in Oscar's good graces with a movie about a man hunting his missing pig.
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Post by Joaquim on Jul 14, 2021 2:35:27 GMT
Holy fuck this is gonna be one of the performances of the decade isn’t it?
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 14, 2021 10:53:19 GMT
I'm glad it gets rave reviews up to now but no nod is happening for Nic.
84/100 Metascore atm...
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Post by iheartamyadams on Jul 14, 2021 19:28:27 GMT
Oscah for Cage!
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Post by Mattsby on Jul 15, 2021 0:35:22 GMT
RT 98% on 41 critics... It's going up! and may actually end up his highest rated movie??
even Armond White loved it ("a quiet piece of political poetry" -- also calls it a "millennial noir").
If Neon squeaked this out last year, do we think Cage would've made the Lead Actor lineup?
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Post by mrimpossible on Jul 15, 2021 1:18:27 GMT
RT 98% on 41 critics... It's going up! and may actually end up his highest rated movie?? even Armond White loved it ("a quiet piece of political poetry" -- also calls it a "millennial noir"). If Neon squeaked this out last year, do we think Cage would've made the Lead Actor lineup? He's going to need to win almost every critic groups to even have a chance even then he can miss like Hawke in First Reformed.
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Post by futuretrunks on Jul 17, 2021 1:29:56 GMT
Is this really a possible Oscar nom for Cage? Some people seem hyped.
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Post by stephen on Jul 17, 2021 1:34:02 GMT
Is this really a possible Oscar nom for Cage? Some people seem hyped. If he can carve out an Ethan Hawke-esque critics' sweep and if the film can overperform at the box office and if other contenders fall flat, then I can feature it, but right now I feel like an ISA nod is his ceiling. But let's hope.
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Post by futuretrunks on Jul 17, 2021 1:45:19 GMT
Is this really a possible Oscar nom for Cage? Some people seem hyped. If he can carve out an Ethan Hawke-esque critics' sweep and if the film can overperform at the box office and if other contenders fall flat, then I can feature it, but right now I feel like an ISA nod is his ceiling. But let's hope. Nevermind, lol!
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