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Post by IceTruckDexter on Aug 25, 2019 0:51:06 GMT
It's called him being a politician and realising what he actually wants won't be popular in America so he pulls back. He was an outspoken ally for LGBTQ community in the 70’s, when it was unpopular. He was for Medicare for all in the 90’s, when it was unpopular. He spoke out against NAFTA in the 90’s, when it was unpopular. He spoke against the Iraq war, when it was unpopular. He’s been talking about income inequality since the 70’s. He spoke out against laws that prohibit abortions and birth control measures since the 70’s. Seems like he could give two fucks what’s popular. It’s clear the policies he talks about today are ones that he cares about. The majority of American people caught up to the majority of his beliefs, not the other way around. Keep smearing him without communist rhetoric though which clearly can be debunked with 10 minutes of research. You keep waffling on about how popular his policies are and then you come up with this shite.
Most liberal people for decades have been pro gay.
Leftists constantly bitch about Medicare for all for years. Always bringing up the NHS as as example. I remember hearing it from an American politician when I was 8
NAFTA has always been unpopular with socialists. Also protectionist bollocks has a lot of support on the right too so I don't know where you're getting that it'd be unpopular.
Yeah and he was wrong about Iraq.
Yeah that's a typical socialist thing to do. You seem to think socialists haven't existed in America until the recently.
Abortion has been a heavily polarised subject in the States for decades.
Woodrow Wilson was basically a socialist. FDR and LBJ very left wing. You're full of shite.
I'm not smearing him with anything. The guy fucking praised the Soviet Union for fuck sake. How is that not as bad as praising the Third Reich?
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Post by dazed on Aug 25, 2019 1:13:06 GMT
He was an outspoken ally for LGBTQ community in the 70’s, when it was unpopular. He was for Medicare for all in the 90’s, when it was unpopular. He spoke out against NAFTA in the 90’s, when it was unpopular. He spoke against the Iraq war, when it was unpopular. He’s been talking about income inequality since the 70’s. He spoke out against laws that prohibit abortions and birth control measures since the 70’s. Seems like he could give two fucks what’s popular. It’s clear the policies he talks about today are ones that he cares about. The majority of American people caught up to the majority of his beliefs, not the other way around. Keep smearing him without communist rhetoric though which clearly can be debunked with 10 minutes of research. You keep waffling on about how popular his policies are and then you come up with this shite.
Most liberal people for decades have been pro gay.
Leftists constantly bitch about Medicare for all for years. Always bringing up the NHS as as example. I remember hearing it from an American politician when I was 8
NAFTA has always been unpopular with socialists. Also protectionist bollocks has a lot of support on the right too so I don't know where you're getting that it'd be unpopular.
Yeah and he was wrong about Iraq.
Yeah that's a typical socialist thing to do. You seem to think socialists haven't existed in America until the recently.
Abortion has been a heavily polarised subject in the States for decades.
Woodrow Wilson was basically a socialist. FDR and LBJ very left wing. You're full of shite.
I'm not smearing him with anything. The guy fucking praised the Soviet Union for fuck sake. How is that not as bad as praising the Third Reich?
They weren’t in the 70’s. Hell, I don’t think they even were in the 90’s. You might have heard it, but once again, it wasn’t an overly popular talking point to talk about. Once again, we’re talking about all American people, not just a selective group. No he wasn’t. He’s stuck with that same position for multiple decades Yes, you are smearing him. You can’t give me policies of his that would show that he’s a communist. Instead you use attacks that are baseless. Here’s a video of him shitting on the Soviet Union after asked a smear question: www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/04/22/student_to_bernie_sanders_my_family_fled_soviet_russia_socialism_has_failed_in_nearly_every_country.html
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Aug 25, 2019 21:30:28 GMT
You keep waffling on about how popular his policies are and then you come up with this shite.
Most liberal people for decades have been pro gay.
Leftists constantly bitch about Medicare for all for years. Always bringing up the NHS as as example. I remember hearing it from an American politician when I was 8
NAFTA has always been unpopular with socialists. Also protectionist bollocks has a lot of support on the right too so I don't know where you're getting that it'd be unpopular.
Yeah and he was wrong about Iraq.
Yeah that's a typical socialist thing to do. You seem to think socialists haven't existed in America until the recently.
Abortion has been a heavily polarised subject in the States for decades.
Woodrow Wilson was basically a socialist. FDR and LBJ very left wing. You're full of shite.
I'm not smearing him with anything. The guy fucking praised the Soviet Union for fuck sake. How is that not as bad as praising the Third Reich?
They weren’t in the 70’s. Hell, I don’t think they even were in the 90’s. You might have heard it, but once again, it wasn’t an overly popular talking point to talk about. Once again, we’re talking about all American people, not just a selective group. No he wasn’t. He’s stuck with that same position for multiple decades Yes, you are smearing him. You can’t give me policies of his that would show that he’s a communist. Instead you use attacks that are baseless. Here’s a video of him shitting on the Soviet Union after asked a smear question: www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/04/22/student_to_bernie_sanders_my_family_fled_soviet_russia_socialism_has_failed_in_nearly_every_country.htmlThat was the worst thing I've ever seen you put. It basically came down to "No it wasn't, no no no, no it wasn't".
Also he never discusses the horrors of the Soviet Union and he makes an incredibly pithy point about how he opposed decades after its fall. So why did he praise while it was still around.
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Post by dazed on Aug 26, 2019 1:34:09 GMT
That was the worst thing I've ever seen you put. It basically came down to "No it wasn't, no no no, no it wasn't".
Also he never discusses the horrors of the Soviet Union and he makes an incredibly pithy point about how he opposed decades after its fall. So why did he praise while it was still around.
Your arguments were baseless. All you pretty much said was “No, all those policies were already popular with a select group of American people”. Which they weren’t. Want me to give an example? Here’s a link to a gay marriage poll: www.people-press.org/2012/02/07/growing-public-support-for-same-sex-marriage/33% of both Democrats and independents were in support of gay marriage in 1996. Looks like they weren’t in support of it for decades like you argued. Here’s an hour long, unedited video (this same video was posted on Twitter, except it was edited down to two minutes of length as an obvious smear attack) of discussion about the Soviet Union trip due to his mayoral duties (fun fact, this was also the same trip as his ‘honeymoon’ which obviously wasn’t a honeymoon): Looks like he didn’t wait decades to criticize it. Also, give me some policies of his that shows he’s a communist. I’ve asked twice now and all you could come up with is “he knows his real beliefs would be unpopular” when I already showed you that his positions on policies were unpopular back then. So you need a new argument.
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