|
Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 11, 2017 2:53:12 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Real Duality on Mar 11, 2017 3:30:50 GMT
Honestly, it's bullshit. If you aren't a victim, you shouldn't speak for victims. She played one in a fucking movie.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 3:36:58 GMT
Honestly, it's bullshit. If you aren't a victim, you shouldn't speak for victims. She played one in a fucking movie. Thats dumb rhetoric, but its not surprising coming from you
|
|
|
Post by Real Duality on Mar 11, 2017 3:38:49 GMT
Honestly, it's bullshit. If you aren't a victim, you shouldn't speak for victims. She played one in a fucking movie. Thats dumb rhetoric, but its not surprising coming from you Think about it. If you were a victim, would you want someone saying this is how victims want to be represented? It's a violation.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 3:41:09 GMT
Thats dumb rhetoric, but its not surprising coming from you Think about it. If you were a victim, would you want someone saying this is how victims want to be represented? It's a violation. Well, in that case you're not a victim either so you have no input in the matter, so just shut up and let people express their support however they feel viable
|
|
Zeb31
Based
Bernardo is not believing que vous êtes come to bing bing avec nous
Posts: 2,557
Likes: 3,794
|
Post by Zeb31 on Mar 11, 2017 3:45:23 GMT
From what I've seen, she was only marginally more responsive to Washington's SAG win. This feels like much ado about nothing.
|
|
|
Post by Real Duality on Mar 11, 2017 3:46:03 GMT
Think about it. If you were a victim, would you want someone saying this is how victims want to be represented? It's a violation. Well, in that case you're not a victim either so you have no input in the matter, so just shut up and let people express their support however they feel viable I am commenting on the idea of speaking on behalf of people who have been terribly victimized. Support would be letting them speak for themselves, and not treating them any differently. I approach it like everything else. I don't think of rape victims as not being able to live within the constraints of a democratic society anymore, but that's just me.
|
|
|
Post by iheartamyadams on Mar 11, 2017 3:55:05 GMT
She also said in a separate interview that she's glad it was televised because she has no memory of giving him the award lol.
|
|
|
Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 11, 2017 4:06:18 GMT
From what I've seen, she was only marginally more responsive to Washington's SAG win. This feels like much ado about nothing. SHHHHHHH! It'll be the third season of FX's Feud. Larson vs. Baby Affleck.
|
|
|
Post by Christ_Ian_Bale on Mar 11, 2017 5:59:06 GMT
From what I've seen, she was only marginally more responsive to Washington's SAG win. This feels like much ado about nothing. SHHHHHHH! It'll be the third season of FX's Feud. Larson vs. Baby Affleck. With Katherine Waterston as Larson and the sad emoji as Affleck.
|
|
agent69
New Member
Posts: 246
Likes: 83
|
Post by agent69 on Mar 11, 2017 9:28:26 GMT
I'm not privy to the whole Affleck controversy, but if her "reaction" at the Oscars was a form of a statement it was the most respectful and subdued statement she could have made. She did nothing to ruin his moment or disrupt it. Respect for that.
|
|
|
Post by Brother Fease on Mar 11, 2017 9:32:54 GMT
Honestly, it's bullshit. If you aren't a victim, you shouldn't speak for victims. She played one in a fucking movie. I would argue a different kind of B.S here. Let me start by saying, she did tell Affleck "congratulations" and didn't make a scene, and handled the situation with dignity. But I would argue that Affleck was ONLY accused of sexual harassment. Affleck has denied that the event actually happened. It's unfortunate that Larson would play judge and jury and assume he's guilty. That's my issue with the whole Affleck controversy. People are casting judgment on Affleck without knowing if the event happened or not.
|
|
spiralstatic
New Member
Maybe you're like Dangermouse: small, but mighty... ? ??!?!?!
Posts: 171
Likes: 69
|
Post by spiralstatic on Mar 11, 2017 15:00:08 GMT
I wonder whether she really intentionally didn't applaud for this reason at the time. Not that it matters. She can feel however she wishes and I think she has made it clear she isn't a fan of Affleck regardless of her actions on Oscar night. But she did smile, hug and congratulate him. Was she making an intentional stance by not applauding behind his back at the time? I don't know. Has she seen all the positive feedback others have given her for the action and is just implying that's what she was doing without having to actually come out and speak (or deny!) it? Who knows. I do know Leonardo DiCaprio didn't applaud Emma Stone either in the same position as Brie Larson with Casey. Emma/Casey: If you were to just watch with no context, it looks like Leo is worse with Emma than Brie with Casey. Brie smiles, she congratulates him and she is the one who initiates the hug. It's only because the audience don't applaud Emma so long that you don't notice Leo isn't applauding her. Oh, and maybe because people weren't looking for any tiny little daft thing to analyse!! But this said, I hope it was an intentional stance by Brie, because even though it would be petty, and although I disagree about taking such a stance when presenting someone with an Oscar (if she felt so strongly, in my opinion she should have said she didn't want to present any of these awards at all when she knew it was likely Affleck was winning them - that would have been a definite stance) if she's just in retrospect taking credit for a moral position viewers have interpreted from something that may not have been intended at the time, it only plays in to not only random people on twitter but genuine news sites who have posted articles with screen grabbed pictures of actors and actresses faces (sometimes from a different time entirely!) as if they're implying they understand their every thought from an out of context screen-shot..! Which to me seems ludicrous. I don't see why you would be for that kind of thing, particularly if you were famous when you have to consider there could in the future be a time when such a thing could come back in a similar way with people against you...
|
|
erickeitel
Junior Member
The beauty of life is in small details, not in big events.
Posts: 464
Likes: 383
|
Post by erickeitel on Mar 11, 2017 15:32:24 GMT
From what I've seen, she was only marginally more responsive to Washington's SAG win. This feels like much ado about nothing. Completely agreed. What's so annoying is that when it comes to matters like this, you constantly have to say how DISGUSTING Casey Affleck is and if you don't, there's the implication that you don't care about sexual assault victims. You have to believe that everything in the lawsuit is true, otherwise you're part of the problem. Just like Samantha Geimer said the Cesars used her as a mouthpiece against Polanski, people are using Brie Larson as a mouthpiece against Casey Affleck—one in which she doesn't appear to be too keen on. There are other ways to support sexual assault victims than to say the same few things over and over again.
|
|
|
Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 11, 2017 15:37:48 GMT
She also said in a separate interview that she's glad it was televised because she has no memory of giving him the award lol. I don't really see how she could realistically have no memory of presenting him with the Oscar unless she was drunk or on drugs. I get her point but it's a stupid childish thing to say.
|
|
|
Post by harlequinade on Mar 11, 2017 15:41:49 GMT
Honestly, it's bullshit. If you aren't a victim, you shouldn't speak for victims. She played one in a fucking movie. I would argue a different kind of B.S here. Let me start by saying, she did tell Affleck "congratulations" and didn't make a scene, and handled the situation with dignity. But I would argue that Affleck was ONLY accused of sexual harassment. Affleck has denied that the event actually happened. It's unfortunate that Larson would play judge and jury and assume he's guilty. That's my issue with the whole Affleck controversy. People are casting judgment on Affleck without knowing if the event happened or not.
That's why I'm glad Brie still hugged him. He got on stage and that girl there, I think she was the one holding the award before giving it to Larson, was so happy for him and hugged him and he went in for a hug from Brie and she did that. If she didn't it would be super awkward
|
|
Drish
Badass
Posts: 2,012
Likes: 1,749
|
Post by Drish on Mar 11, 2017 16:01:44 GMT
She also said in a separate interview that she's glad it was televised because she has no memory of giving him the award lol. I don't really see how she could realistically have no memory of presenting him with the Oscar unless she was drunk or on drugs. I get her point but it's a stupid childish thing to say. Pretty sure she said she can't remember the time SHE won the Oscar mainly because how surreal it was for her. I haven't seen any televised interview of hers where she's uttered a single word on Affleck. I think people are thinking too much about it. But yeah, she clearly is not high on him.
|
|
|
Post by stephen on Mar 11, 2017 16:13:35 GMT
From what I've seen, she was only marginally more responsive to Washington's SAG win. This feels like much ado about nothing. Completely agreed. What's so annoying is that when it comes to matters like this, you constantly have to say how DISGUSTING Casey Affleck is and if you don't, there's the implication that you don't care about sexual assault victims. You have to believe that everything in the lawsuit is true, otherwise you're part of the problem. Just like Samantha Geimer said the Cesars used her as a mouthpiece against Polanski, people are using Brie Larson as a mouthpiece against Casey Affleck—one in which she doesn't appear to be too keen on. There are other ways to support sexual assault victims than to say the same few things over and over again. It is kind of fucked up that Larson, regardless of how she personally feels about Affleck or the case, has been nevertheless touted as a figurehead and that her every action must be scrutinized. If she smiles, that must mean that she's a hypocrite and that she doesn't give a shit about the victims. If she doesn't, she seems like she's judging before all the facts are in. It's a really shitty position for her to be in.
|
|
erickeitel
Junior Member
The beauty of life is in small details, not in big events.
Posts: 464
Likes: 383
|
Post by erickeitel on Mar 11, 2017 16:33:10 GMT
Completely agreed. What's so annoying is that when it comes to matters like this, you constantly have to say how DISGUSTING Casey Affleck is and if you don't, there's the implication that you don't care about sexual assault victims. You have to believe that everything in the lawsuit is true, otherwise you're part of the problem. Just like Samantha Geimer said the Cesars used her as a mouthpiece against Polanski, people are using Brie Larson as a mouthpiece against Casey Affleck—one in which she doesn't appear to be too keen on. There are other ways to support sexual assault victims than to say the same few things over and over again. It is kind of fucked up that Larson, regardless of how she personally feels about Affleck or the case, has been nevertheless touted as a figurehead and that her every action must be scrutinized. If she smiles, that must mean that she's a hypocrite and that she doesn't give a shit about the victims. If she doesn't, she seems like she's judging before all the facts are in. It's a really shitty position for her to be in. Exactly. If she has a statement, let her say it. It doesn't do any good to put words into her mouth to reflect your own viewpoint, no matter where you stand on this issue. That's what Fox News and Nancy Grace would do.
|
|
|
Post by Brother Fease on Mar 11, 2017 17:21:17 GMT
I would argue a different kind of B.S here. Let me start by saying, she did tell Affleck "congratulations" and didn't make a scene, and handled the situation with dignity. But I would argue that Affleck was ONLY accused of sexual harassment. Affleck has denied that the event actually happened. It's unfortunate that Larson would play judge and jury and assume he's guilty. That's my issue with the whole Affleck controversy. People are casting judgment on Affleck without knowing if the event happened or not.
That's why I'm glad Brie still hugged him. He got on stage and that girl there, I think she was the one holding the award before giving it to Larson, was so happy for him and hugged him and he went in for a hug from Brie and she did that. If she didn't it would be super awkward If Larson didn't say anything, people wouldn't notice that she refused to clap for Affleck out of protest. I applaud how she handled it. I know that other self-righteous actors might have tried to cause a scene.
|
|
spiralstatic
New Member
Maybe you're like Dangermouse: small, but mighty... ? ??!?!?!
Posts: 171
Likes: 69
|
Post by spiralstatic on Mar 11, 2017 17:44:38 GMT
I don't really see how she could realistically have no memory of presenting him with the Oscar unless she was drunk or on drugs. I get her point but it's a stupid childish thing to say. Pretty sure she said she can't remember the time SHE won the Oscar mainly because how surreal it was for her. I haven't seen any televised interview of hers where she's uttered a single word on Affleck. I think people are thinking too much about it. But yeah, she clearly is not high on him. I suppose she could have meant it either way, but she did literally say seconds before that she remembers her own win, so I think it most likely she is talking about presenting. I don't think it comes across as particularly negative. But possibly it is a thing she could have said to close down the conversation in fear that it could be heading towards "How did you feel presenting the award (to Affleck)" kind of area. I think that's fair enough. The response to Variety, less so. I would usually agree. But first of all, her smiles have as far as I have seen been ignored. Has anyone called her a hypocrite? I don't think many have....? Then, when someone does ask her about it, it seems to me like the opportunity to deny it if she is even remotely uncomfortable with the situation. To dampen down people's speculation, she wouldn't have to explicitly say anything. All she'd need to say is something along the lines of "Sometimes people read more into things than is truly there." That's it. She's not revealing her own opinion at all with that kind of a statement, just putting it into perspective. What she has done is imply the opposite. She's not explicitly said anything negative about Affleck, but she's suggested what everyone else has inferred is correct. Which makes it seem as though she is trying to make statements by her actions/expressions and that everyone should read into her every action and reaction as they have done. At least, that's what she's saying herself...
|
|
|
Post by PromNightCarrie on Mar 11, 2017 17:58:27 GMT
What I really like about this is she put her principles before appeasing certain powerful Hollywood figures. I'm for awarding the acting, not the personal life, so I of course think Casey should have gotten the award if he deserved it. But that's not what I'm talking about. I don't like when people abuse their power to scare people into submission. There has been talk of Casey's connections Matt Damon and brother Ben gangstering their way into making sure no one said or did anything that interfered with his path to winning. Threatening to blackball certain people, and things of that nature. These are men with major clout in Hollywood, so most people in the industry would want to be on their good side. But here comes Brie Larson not bullshitting about the fact that her demeanor up there meant something. In a town full of ass kissers who are so afraid of burning bridges, I admire that.
|
|
|
Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 11, 2017 22:21:38 GMT
What I really like about this is she put her principles before appeasing certain powerful Hollywood figures. I'm for awarding the acting, not the personal life, so I of course think Casey should have gotten the award if he deserved it. But that's not what I'm talking about. I don't like when people abuse their power to scare people into submission. There has been talk of Casey's connections Matt Damon and brother Ben gangstering their way into making sure no one said or did anything that interfered with his path to winning. Threatening to blackball certain people, and things of that nature. These are men with major clout in Hollywood, so most people in the industry would want to be on their good side. But here comes Brie Larson not bullshitting about the fact that her demeanor up there meant something. In a town full of ass kissers who are so afraid of burning bridges, I admire that. From what I've read it was actually Casey's people using his connection to Damon snd his brother threatening people to take away their access to them. All hearsay though.
|
|
|
Post by PromNightCarrie on Mar 11, 2017 22:28:16 GMT
What I really like about this is she put her principles before appeasing certain powerful Hollywood figures. I'm for awarding the acting, not the personal life, so I of course think Casey should have gotten the award if he deserved it. But that's not what I'm talking about. I don't like when people abuse their power to scare people into submission. There has been talk of Casey's connections Matt Damon and brother Ben gangstering their way into making sure no one said or did anything that interfered with his path to winning. Threatening to blackball certain people, and things of that nature. These are men with major clout in Hollywood, so most people in the industry would want to be on their good side. But here comes Brie Larson not bullshitting about the fact that her demeanor up there meant something. In a town full of ass kissers who are so afraid of burning bridges, I admire that. From what I've read it was actually Casey's people using his connection to Damon snd his brother threatening people to take away their access to them. All hearsay though. Okay. I could be very well be wrong. I will acknowledge it's just talk, not fact. However, I still think a lot of ambitious, brown-nosing Hollywood starlets would not do or say what Brie just said for fear of somehow putting off powerful people like Ben and Matt who might in the future reject them as a casting choice for some high-profile film they are involved in. Given that, I admire the way Brie is handling it.
|
|
|
Post by eyebrowmorroco on Mar 12, 2017 9:54:35 GMT
Yeah, but Huppert didn't stand for Stone. What a diva.
|
|