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Post by Pavan on Apr 20, 2017 13:43:51 GMT
What? no separate thread for this? Anyway i loved it. Not consistently great but it's so relatable, engrossing a bit depressing. The characters are so well written and you see people like them in your life. I saw myself in Clay Jensen. Loved the performances, especially Katherine Langford and Dylan Minnette did really well. Soundtrack is good too. From all the episodes I loved the 11th one it was so touching when Clay breaks into tears for what he couldn't say to Hannah on the party night and the then the hug i felt really emotional. 13th episode was disturbing. There are some leftovers like What's next for Clay, what's Alex's position after that incident.. like that. I'm hoping for a second season.
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Post by notacrook on Apr 20, 2017 14:37:05 GMT
It was deeply flawed, but overall it was much better than I expected it to be. It was bold and daring in how it depicted the tragedies in Hannah's life (including her suicide), which I think was the right decision. The cast was mixed but the leads, parents and Alisha Boe were terrific. Loved the finale overall.
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Post by Shim on Apr 20, 2017 15:43:32 GMT
I loved most of it, but I think it was hindered by trying to make too much content. By trying to stretch each episode to 1 hour, I think we ended up with a lot of repetition (specifically with the parents' and the other kids' storylines)
Still I really enjoyed it. I agree that Katherine Langford and Dylan Minnette were fantastic and I just think its a really important show to watch and talk about
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Post by bkguy182 on Apr 20, 2017 17:40:18 GMT
ok, so spoilers obviously...
im a little torn on how to feel. so maybe i can work it out as i type.
overall, i really enjoyed it. the way it was set up was exciting and made you want to keep watching. and in the end, it didnt disappoint. the acting, writing, directing... were all good. never bad, but never amazing (except maybe for rachel - especially towards the end).
most of the issues i had with it were because there was a lot of plot holes and it needed a suspension of belief to get over those plot holes- which wasnt as annoying to do as you may think (will get to that later). the other issues i had with it were more personal. maybe its because im older? maybe its because i was generally a well adjusted teen? i just couldnt connect with this girl. a boy yelled at you so you kill yourself? you and your girlfriend stopped being friends so you kill yourself? you have people who want to be friends with you. you have amazing parents who show their love for you constantly. and yet, this white girl with no "REAL" problems cant go on? give me a break.. but when you get to the end, all these "little things" really add up and make more sense than you give it credit for. a lot of people have said, "it could have been less tapes." and while i agreed while watching, i think its those little tapes that justify the big tapes.
what i think they should have done was from the very beginning say that she was raped. create even more dramatic irony for the viewer that lets us "side" (i hate saying that) with her throughout. also it adds even more to the mystery. was she raped at the party?? oh, no. wait, did clay rape her? omg hes totally gonna rape her! hes raping her!. oh wait, no. oooohhhhh its BRYCE. but then i can see the flip side of not giving her "hard" "justification" from the beginning. because its not like we deserve to know. all we need to know is that shes hurting- however big or small. anyway...
i also didnt like her treatment of the counselor. its like shes almost baiting him. hes asking her straight up. hes saying these are your options. hes trying to help her. but because she was being histrionic af (sorry ladies), he gets the final nail in the coffin? i mean, come on. again, this all goes back to me not being able to understand what shes going through. but it just seemed a bit wrong and unfair. same with clay. he was kind to her. he asked for your consent. he stopped when he was told to stop. he tried several times to console you. and then when you said to get out he did. and then you blame him for your suicide. GIRL.
all that aside. and going back to why none of this was as annoying as it may seem and why i forgive it. i think it is a VERY important story to be told (considering the current climate) and i think they did it brilliantly. i didnt ever once think it was heavy handed and it showed that no matter who you are (a jock, a friend, a nerd, an enemy, a parent, an educator) you can effect someone and that little things add up. we see the effects of the rumor mill. of being moody. of "jock privilege." of rape culture. and it never came off preachy. like i'd like to think if this was required viewing in high school, it would actually put it into perspective for people and they would "see the light."
i dont know if any of that made sense. but there it is.
tl;dr: its a good show. watch it!
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Post by flasuss on Apr 21, 2017 19:20:54 GMT
It was a pretty good show, even if very flawed- the main issue is that, like others said, there's no plot for 13 one hour episodes, and so the beginning and the middle have lots of pacing issues. But the last 3 episodes are one gut punch after another.
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Post by pessimusreincarnated on Apr 21, 2017 20:10:23 GMT
Whew boy, I've got a lot to say about this show but I'm way too lazy to type everything out rn. Basically an incredibly frustrating watch overall, with a ton of plot holes, logical inconsistencies, and contrived character moments weighing down an otherwise emotionally investing story. It also struck me as seriously falsely moralistic at points, especially towards the last couple episodes.
That said, I banged the show out in like 4 days. It's definitely watchable and entertaining, and tailor made for the Netflix-binge watch, it just could've been so much better had they smoothed out the writing more.
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Post by Pavan on Apr 27, 2017 3:55:38 GMT
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Post by jakob on Apr 28, 2017 22:28:04 GMT
I recently decided to write a blog page that reviews current television. I've admittedly been more interested in television than film in the last year and I've been writing reviews of shows once I've finished the season as a whole. Here's my review of 13 Reasons Why: jakobstvbinge.blogspot.com/2017/04/13-reasons-why.html?view=flipcardOverall, I honestly really liked it, but I do criticize it a fair deal. I also have reviews for the first seasons of Legion and A Series of Unfortunate Events, as well as the newest season of South Park.
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Post by lee on Apr 29, 2017 15:48:17 GMT
Lol
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Post by Pavan on May 8, 2017 7:37:35 GMT
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Post by Pavan on May 8, 2017 7:39:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 13:23:21 GMT
Well done, was shocked by the graphicness of some scenes, can't understand how a second season is going to make sense though.
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Post by Pavan on May 18, 2018 19:05:16 GMT
Started watching season 2.
I'm 2 episodes in and i get the impression that they're gonna re hash the whole story in a different way. I was expecting they would leave Hannah's story for a new one but they're trying to fill the gaps in her story and portraying it different.
Polaroids and courtroom drama so far.
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Post by Pavan on May 20, 2018 19:50:35 GMT
Finished watching season 2. Another strong season although i didn't like the way they narrated it this time. Tried all things but only some of 'em really worked,IMO. Had some really great character moments this time.
Narrative wise speaking they told more of the same in different fashion by filling in the gaps. Nothing too revelatory but it does end up with a cliffhanger that gives the chance for the makers to go in new directions.
I'm interested to see where it goes next.
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Post by notacrook on Jun 9, 2018 1:43:15 GMT
After finding the first season just about decent, I went into Season 2 thinking it would be bottom-of-the-barrel terrible, after reviews and the fact that they really didn't need to continue this story. However, as far as totally unnecessary projects go, this could've been a lot worse. It hits several of the dramatic beats it aims for (the "Night We Met" scene in the last episode was beautifully done), and much of the performances remain strong. However, it was still way too excessive just like the first season, and went in some directions it just did not need to go in - yeah, the Tyler stuff.
Will I be back for Season 3? I mean, with that (irritating) cliffhanger ending, maybe? I'll see. Ultimately, this was better than I expected, but not really quality TV. 5/10
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Post by Pavan on Jun 9, 2018 6:14:53 GMT
Renewed for a third season
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jun 21, 2018 18:27:07 GMT
Renewed for a third season lol. Doesn't S2 have like a 25% on RT?
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Post by Pavan on Aug 2, 2019 10:17:02 GMT
Feels like the makers pulled this one out of their asses as an excuse for season 3 but i like these characters. I'll give it a try.
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Post by LaraQ on Aug 2, 2019 11:01:46 GMT
The second season was awful,I only watched it because of Katherine Langford and now she's no longer in it...
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Post by Pavan on Aug 14, 2019 15:31:48 GMT
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Post by LaraQ on Aug 26, 2019 13:34:59 GMT
Still a total mess,the writers have absolutely no idea what to do with theses characters.It's better than the second season but this really should've ended after season one.
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Post by Pavan on Sept 16, 2019 10:44:35 GMT
I'm 7 episodes into season 3. Who is this Ani girl and why is she so important to the story all of a sudden? See this is why i don't hold TV shows in high esteem. They make up shit as they go.
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Post by Pavan on Sept 17, 2019 15:09:49 GMT
I wrote a paragraph after watching it but instead of clicking on post i wrongly clicked on refresh button after closing another tab. Fuck it anyway this show don't deserve a long rant.
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Post by Pavan on May 20, 2020 17:44:39 GMT
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Post by Pavan on Jun 9, 2020 21:43:23 GMT
Finished watching the final season. The first 7 episodes were unwatchable. Stupid, horrible things happened and our protagonist Clay went from one of the goodest guys to the most fucked up person in the show. Kind of a weird character development for a show's lead character. Rest of the characters were irritating too. Charlie was the only likeable character this season. That said the last 3 episodes saved it from becoming a complete disaster although they feel like last min amends. They used the Clay-Justin bromance to good effect to resolve the show and threw in a couple of surprises. Managed to deliver a bittersweet ending. Still 13 Reasons Why is Hannah Baker's story and if it was ended that way it would've been seen a pretty good mini-series. Instead they had to drag it's ass to 4 seasons without even bothering to justify the title. 3rd season itself was a disaster but i finished watching the final season anyway. Kind of a love-hate relationship with this show. Farewell.
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