It was deeply flawed, but overall it was much better than I expected it to be. It was bold and daring in how it depicted the tragedies in Hannah's life (including her suicide), which I think was the right decision. The cast was mixed but the leads, parents and Alisha Boe were terrific. Loved the finale overall.
I loved most of it, but I think it was hindered by trying to make too much content. By trying to stretch each episode to 1 hour, I think we ended up with a lot of repetition (specifically with the parents' and the other kids' storylines)
Still I really enjoyed it. I agree that Katherine Langford and Dylan Minnette were fantastic and I just think its a really important show to watch and talk about
im a little torn on how to feel. so maybe i can work it out as i type.
overall, i really enjoyed it. the way it was set up was exciting and made you want to keep watching. and in the end, it didnt disappoint. the acting, writing, directing... were all good. never bad, but never amazing (except maybe for rachel - especially towards the end).
most of the issues i had with it were because there was a lot of plot holes and it needed a suspension of belief to get over those plot holes- which wasnt as annoying to do as you may think (will get to that later). the other issues i had with it were more personal. maybe its because im older? maybe its because i was generally a well adjusted teen? i just couldnt connect with this girl. a boy yelled at you so you kill yourself? you and your girlfriend stopped being friends so you kill yourself? you have people who want to be friends with you. you have amazing parents who show their love for you constantly. and yet, this white girl with no "REAL" problems cant go on? give me a break.. but when you get to the end, all these "little things" really add up and make more sense than you give it credit for. a lot of people have said, "it could have been less tapes." and while i agreed while watching, i think its those little tapes that justify the big tapes.
what i think they should have done was from the very beginning say that she was raped. create even more dramatic irony for the viewer that lets us "side" (i hate saying that) with her throughout. also it adds even more to the mystery. was she raped at the party?? oh, no. wait, did clay rape her? omg hes totally gonna rape her! hes raping her!. oh wait, no. oooohhhhh its BRYCE. but then i can see the flip side of not giving her "hard" "justification" from the beginning. because its not like we deserve to know. all we need to know is that shes hurting- however big or small. anyway...
i also didnt like her treatment of the counselor. its like shes almost baiting him. hes asking her straight up. hes saying these are your options. hes trying to help her. but because she was being histrionic af (sorry ladies), he gets the final nail in the coffin? i mean, come on. again, this all goes back to me not being able to understand what shes going through. but it just seemed a bit wrong and unfair. same with clay. he was kind to her. he asked for your consent. he stopped when he was told to stop. he tried several times to console you. and then when you said to get out he did. and then you blame him for your suicide. GIRL.
all that aside. and going back to why none of this was as annoying as it may seem and why i forgive it. i think it is a VERY important story to be told (considering the current climate) and i think they did it brilliantly. i didnt ever once think it was heavy handed and it showed that no matter who you are (a jock, a friend, a nerd, an enemy, a parent, an educator) you can effect someone and that little things add up. we see the effects of the rumor mill. of being moody. of "jock privilege." of rape culture. and it never came off preachy. like i'd like to think if this was required viewing in high school, it would actually put it into perspective for people and they would "see the light."
i dont know if any of that made sense. but there it is.
It was a pretty good show, even if very flawed- the main issue is that, like others said, there's no plot for 13 one hour episodes, and so the beginning and the middle have lots of pacing issues. But the last 3 episodes are one gut punch after another.
Post by pessimusreincarnated on Apr 21, 2017 20:10:23 GMT
Whew boy, I've got a lot to say about this show but I'm way too lazy to type everything out rn. Basically an incredibly frustrating watch overall, with a ton of plot holes, logical inconsistencies, and contrived character moments weighing down an otherwise emotionally investing story. It also struck me as seriously falsely moralistic at points, especially towards the last couple episodes.
That said, I banged the show out in like 4 days. It's definitely watchable and entertaining, and tailor made for the Netflix-binge watch, it just could've been so much better had they smoothed out the writing more.
I recently decided to write a blog page that reviews current television. I've admittedly been more interested in television than film in the last year and I've been writing reviews of shows once I've finished the season as a whole.
I'm 2 episodes in and i get the impression that they're gonna re hash the whole story in a different way. I was expecting they would leave Hannah's story for a new one but they're trying to fill the gaps in her story and portraying it different.
Finished watching season 2. Another strong season although i didn't like the way they narrated it this time. Tried all things but only some of 'em really worked,IMO. Had some really great character moments this time.
Narrative wise speaking they told more of the same in different fashion by filling in the gaps. Nothing too revelatory but it does end up with a cliffhanger that gives the chance for the makers to go in new directions.
After finding the first season just about decent, I went into Season 2 thinking it would be bottom-of-the-barrel terrible, after reviews and the fact that they really didn't need to continue this story. However, as far as totally unnecessary projects go, this could've been a lot worse. It hits several of the dramatic beats it aims for (the "Night We Met" scene in the last episode was beautifully done), and much of the performances remain strong. However, it was still way too excessive just like the first season, and went in some directions it just did not need to go in - yeah, the Tyler stuff.
Will I be back for Season 3? I mean, with that (irritating) cliffhanger ending, maybe? I'll see. Ultimately, this was better than I expected, but not really quality TV. 5/10
Finished watching the final season. The first 7 episodes were unwatchable. Stupid, horrible things happened and our protagonist Clay went from one of the goodest guys to the most fucked up person in the show. Kind of a weird character development for a show's lead character. Rest of the characters were irritating too. Charlie was the only likeable character this season.
That said the last 3 episodes saved it from becoming a complete disaster although they feel like last min amends. They used the
to good effect to resolve the show and threw in a couple of surprises. Managed to deliver a bittersweet ending.
Still 13 Reasons Why is Hannah Baker's story and if it was ended that way it would've been seen a pretty good mini-series. Instead they had to drag it's ass to 4 seasons without even bothering to justify the title.
3rd season itself was a disaster but i finished watching the final season anyway. Kind of a love-hate relationship with this show.