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Post by Joaquim on Jul 30, 2019 15:26:32 GMT
F L A N N E L L A N N E L
• Send me a list by PM, not in the thread. • It should contain your Top 25 albums of the 80s, numbered from 1 – 25. If your lists are not numbered, I will count them as 1 – 25 in the order sent. • Your #1 will earn 25, #2 earns 24....and #25 will earn 1 point. You all know the drill. • Once you've voted, you can of course edit your vote by re-sending your ballot to me by PM. • This isn't specific to one genre, it spans all music. So you could have Backstreet Boys followed by Nirvana (plz no votes for Backstreet Boys plz thx). This will probably lead to a large number of albums getting mentioned but I'm sure things will be fine, especially considering this is limited to just one decade. However no composers, sorry. • While live albums are eligible, concert films are not.
Deadline is Tuesday November 12 at midnight, so technically Wednesday November 13.
As always, please use this thread for FYCs and discussions/arguments.
Ballots received:
1. DaleCooper * 2. countjohn * 3. pacinoyes * 4. redhawk10 * 5. themoviesinner * 6. DeepArcher * 7. Johnny_Hellzapoppin * 8. Viced * 9. TheAlwaysClassy * 10. Pittsnogle_Goggins * 11. ibbi * 12. Joaquim *
13. ingmarhepburn *
* = counted
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Post by Joaquim on Jul 30, 2019 15:29:30 GMT
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Post by Joaquim on Jul 30, 2019 15:35:54 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 30, 2019 15:43:36 GMT
A few obvious picks : Slanted and Enchanted, The La's, All Shook Down, Bone Machine, Copper Blue
and the oddball left field classic My Brain Hurts by Screeching Weasel
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Post by DeepArcher on Jul 30, 2019 15:45:21 GMT
Well I'm sure I'll have a lot of FYCs for this decade, but I'll start with these two... Either/Or ~ Elliott Smith Grace ~ Jeff Buckley
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Post by Joaquim on Jul 30, 2019 16:08:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2019 17:00:41 GMT
In light of their new album coming out next month after 12+ years, I'll recommend Undertow and Ænima by Tool. Disturbed, genius works, especially the latter. A few others: We Can't Be Stopped - Geto Boys 6 Feet Deep - Gravediggaz (best rap album of '94, sorry Illmatic) I, Jonathan (much less dark than these other ones I've listed so far )
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Post by Martin Stett on Jul 30, 2019 17:52:08 GMT
Again, not familiar enough with music to vote, but I'll throw in some FYCs:
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Post by themoviesinner on Jul 30, 2019 20:23:49 GMT
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Post by countjohn on Jul 30, 2019 22:02:46 GMT
I said in the 70's thread that it might be my favorite decade for music, but the 90's is up there too. The alt rock was some of the first music I ever got into on a serious level as a teenager, so that's going to be bulk of my FYC's, with a few for chamber pop revival and broadly electronic music. This is just a big list and it will probably take me a few days to narrow down my ballot.
Alternative rock/punk
The Bends and Ok Computer by Radiohead
Blur and 13 by Blur
Achtung Baby by U2
40 oz. to Freedom, Robbin’ the Hood, and Sublime by Sublime
Blue Album and Pinkerton by Weezer
Dig Me Out by Sleater Kinney
Goo by Sonic Youth
Rid of Me and To Bring You My Love by PJ Harvey
Odelay by Beck
Bossanova by Pixies
Wowee Zowee by Pavement
Elastica by Elastica
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness by Smashing Pumpkins
I Do Not Want What I Haven’t Got by Sinead O’Connor
Pretty on the Inside by Hole
The La’s by The La’s
Ágætis byrjun by Sigur Ros
Spiderland by Slint
Let’s Go by Rancid
Monster by R.E.M.
Different Class by Pulp
Superunknown by Soundgarden
Jerusalem by Sleep
Screamadelica by Primal Scream
Bandwagonesque by Teenage Fanclub
There’s Nothing Wrong With Love and Keep it Like a Secret by Built to Spill
Chamber Pop Revival
Liberation, Promenade, and Casanova by The Divine Comedy Cardinal by Cardinal In the Aeroplane Over the Sea by Neutral Milk Hotel
Electronic
Dummy and Portishead by Portishead Homework by Daft Punk Debut by Bjork
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 0:16:59 GMT
Again, not familiar enough with music to vote, but I'll throw in some FYCs: You don't need to be an expert to vote. Like, I'm not extensively well-versed in French cinema from 1961, but I could still list my 5 favorites from that year for fun. It's always better to have as much experience/knowledge as you can before putting together a list (primarily so you can really define your own taste), but at the same time, there's nothing wrong with just giving what you got (and you can always check out more albums from the 90s in your free time if you feel really bad about not being more knowledgeable), as this is just a fun poll and one that's better the more users that submit a list so that the overall selection is more interesting. Basically - vote!
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Post by Martin Stett on Jul 31, 2019 1:19:43 GMT
Again, not familiar enough with music to vote, but I'll throw in some FYCs: You don't need to be an expert to vote. Like, I'm not extensively well-versed in French cinema from 1961, but I could still list my 5 favorites from that year for fun. It's always better to have as much experience/knowledge as you can before putting together a list (primarily so you can really define your own taste), but at the same time, there's nothing wrong with just giving what you got (and you can always check out more albums from the 90s in your free time if you feel really bad about not being more knowledgeable), as this is just a fun poll and one that's better the more users that submit a list so that the overall selection is more interesting. Basically - vote! I looked through over a hundred different albums of music that I listen to, and Folds/Cash is pretty much it for this decade. The 70s had a lot of stuff I loved (Anne Briggs, Vashti Bunyan, Linda Perhacs, Urszula Dudziak, Hako Yamasaki, Yoshiko Sai, Sachiko Kanenobu, Maki Asakawa, Ryo Fukui, Tsuyosho Yamamoto, Minoru Muraoka, Art Ensemble of Chicago, The Alan Parsons Project), and I should have voted in that decade. I could have scrounged up some stuff for the 60s (Scott Walker, Martin Carthy). The 80s... well, there was some good stuff by After Dinner and Suzanne Ciani. But I have a giant blind spot for the 90s. All the Youtube channels I use to hunt down obscure crap dries up before hitting the 90s.
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Post by countjohn on Aug 1, 2019 7:22:44 GMT
In every one of these threads I’ve said I was going to do reviews for some of my FYC’s but I’m actually going to do it here for a few of my personal favorites. The Bends and Ok Computer by Radiohead
These albums have had more words and bandwidth dedicated to them than any rock albums since the demise of Nirvana, so almost anything I can say feels repetitious, but I’ll give it a shot.
The Bends is one of the albums I’d cite as an “ultimate” rock album, just about everything to like about rock music in one package, particularly everything to like about it in the 90’s. It had the 60’s melodicism of Britpop and the noise of grunge. The album manages to throw so many things into a blender and have it come out as a cohesive whole by some miracle. Big arena rock synths on Planet Telex. Fake Plastic Trees, an acoustic ballad fleshed out with weird organ sounds, weird strings, and weird synths (noticed a pattern?). Just, a piece of noise rock that would make Sonic Youth proud, only it has a killer hook too. My Iron Lung, one of their heaviest songs and the most grunge oriented thing on the album, and a hate song directed at their most famous song (“This is our new song, just like the last one, a total waste of time, my iron lung”). The album concludes with Street Spirit, a track I can only describe as a depressing Simon and Garfunkel song. It has the high pitched folk-rock guitar and lush backing vocals, except it’s about the inevitability of dying.
As much attention as Yorke rightfully gets as Radiohead’s leader, Jonny Greenwood is the MVP of this album and turns in one of the great guitar performances in rock history, in my humble opinion. Not because he shreds like Paige or Hendrix, but because he sounds like he’s going to destroy his guitar on every single song. He allegedly had to wear a brace at concerts while they toured the album to keep from injuring himself from how aggressively he played and I can believe it.
A lot of bands who made something as good as The Bends would have spent the next 20 years trying to clone it, but Radiohead followed it up with one of the great enigmas in rock history. What is Ok Computer? It defies classification. The most common genre tag I’ve heard is Prog., ignoring the fact that the bandmembers were young men who hadn’t even heard 70’s prog outside of some of the big Pink Floyd albums. As influential as the album undoubtedly is (I swear, every newish rock album I hear is trying to clone either this or Is This It) how much truly sounds like it? 2000’s rock bands like Coldplay and Muse were very clearly trying to imitate the album’s chrome-y sound, but they never really managed to capture it, it felt like they were just dressing as Thom Yorke for Halloween. All you need is a black sweater, a pissy facial expression, and a red or blonde wig depending on the era.
The album opens with Airbag, on the one hand, one of the album’s more straightforward rock songs, but on the other hand a song that’s full of sounds whose origins I can’t decipher. It ends with what sounds like an electronic breakdown, but the line between guitars and synths gets so blurred I lose track. That is directly followed by Paranoid Android, a more fragmented Bohemian Rhapsody for the 90’s. It opens with an electro-acoustic sequence, followed by a middle section that is probably the hardest rock Radiohead has ever produced, and then concludes with a section driven by synth strings and elaborate “Broadway Cast Recording” style harmonies. Yorke says he wrote the song as a joke. It surpassed Creep as the group’s biggest hit in the UK, reaching no. 3, and made it onto the BBC 1 playlist throughout 97 alongside The Spice Girls and other teen pop groups. Then there’s Exit Music From a Film, which opens as the kind of acoustic song I like. Not trying to be pretty, but with the emotions bare, like the acoustic tracks on Plastic Ono Band. But then it takes a very sharp turn as some very deep bass and noisy guitars enter the picture during the song's second half.
On the one hand, Karma Police might be the poppiest thing on the album with its lack heavy rock guitar and catchy Sexy Sadie inspired piano riff that serves as the song’s hook. But then I remember it doesn’t have a chorus and ends with an electronic freakout. Climbing Up the Walls is most certainly not the poppiest thing on the album and is a song I would not advice skittish people to listen to in the dark. The “scream” (it was created with guitar feedback but you wouldn’t know it) at the end of the song is one of the scariest things I’ve heard in music.
Finally, the album contains the group’s finest song, No Surprises. It’s one of the most beautiful songs of the 20th Century, earning comparisons to “What a Wonderful World” and seductively so. It’s a song about giving up at life and becoming resigned to one’s fate (and possibly about suicide). The song beckons the listener to take a “handshake of carbon monoxide”. A truly beautiful song serves as the ideal vehicle for that. It’s a wonderful song to listen to, but it shouldn’t be, which is what makes it disturbing. It’s Blue Oyster Cult’s controversial “Don’t Fear the Reaper” taken to an even greater extreme. The semi iconic (how much is really iconic these days with how fragmented media is?) video showed Yorke singing the song in a bubble as it slowly fills with water to drown him.
As for the album’s true influences, the band wanted have the kind of atmosphere and dynamics heard in Miles Davis’s Bitches Brew as well as various underground hip hop albums. But they did it predominantly with guitars, so it sounded unlike anything anyone had heard at the time. The power of putting musical principles in a new context is something the group’s imitators don’t seem to understand.
With these albums, Radiohead reached the mountaintop. With the backlash against Oasis, the first breakup of Smashing Pumpkins, and U2 on hiatus, they were arguably the biggest band in the world for a brief moment leading up to Kid A. I’ve never liked Kid A as well as some people. About 4 or 5 of the songs are masterpieces, but it sounds like a mess to my ears. It’s their White Album, they were on top and could afford to be indulgent and do whatever they wanted. The Bends and Ok Computer cover a lot of ground, but the songs just come together to make albums even greater than the sum of their parts. In the mid 90’s Yorke couldn’t write a bad song, and they could do no wrong in the studio, either. Even the B-sides from that period are incredible. The Beatles in their studio years are the only band I can think of who rivals them. These records are what made me appreciate the album as an art form and liberated me from the confines of what popular music was at the time. In my early teens I genuinely thought I just didn’t like music because the only music I ever heard was the latest American Idol single playing in public places. There’s a couple albums I’ve heard since then that I’d put on their level, but to me they’ll always be the gold standard for reasons both artistic and personal.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 4, 2019 0:45:52 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 6, 2019 21:17:41 GMT
Another one missing so far but an FYC from me - Afghan Whigs Gentlemen - aces all the way through and 2 really killer singles - Debonair and Gentlemen.
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Post by avnermoriarti on Aug 8, 2019 5:23:38 GMT
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Post by moonman157 on Aug 8, 2019 5:49:56 GMT
AMERICAN WATER BY SILVER JEWS
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Post by themoviesinner on Aug 16, 2019 5:58:43 GMT
I'll just post here the greatest album of all time (for me), so that anyone that's interested can listen to it:
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Aug 28, 2019 10:06:06 GMT
FYC:
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Aug 28, 2019 11:11:09 GMT
FYC
Some others I love, and a lot of which will get my vote...
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Aug 30, 2019 19:35:53 GMT
In in the midst of a what will likely be a testosterone fueled rock fest of a list, why not add a little estrogen.
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 8, 2019 21:07:25 GMT
Gonna try to rollout the rest of my FYCs the next few days, hopefully have the ballot done soon. First things first let's make sure these all get some shoutouts... Debut ~ Björk Post ~ Björk Homogenic ~ Björk
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 2:57:52 GMT
"How do your pistol and bible and sleeping pills go? Are you still jumping out of windows in expensive clothes?"
(I'm pretty late in discovering that) BONE MACHINE is really, really good. A must for the list.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Sept 9, 2019 13:00:05 GMT
Gonna try to rollout the rest of my FYCs the next few days, hopefully have the ballot done soon. First things first let's make sure these all get some shoutouts... Debut ~ Björk Post ~ Björk Homogenic ~ Björk Gonna put Post pretty high up my list as I think it has the best chance, and the other two most likely somewhere else on it. Hopefully at least one of them can make it in, as it would be a crime to not have Bjork in the list at least once, as all of these should be making it.
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 9, 2019 20:13:32 GMT
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