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Post by Good God on Aug 12, 2019 20:50:18 GMT
I know 99% of viewers won’t care about this and that’s fine but Leonardo DiCaprio gave possibly the 2nd best stutter I’ve ever seen in a film. It’s not exaggerated at all, often quite subtle actually, but he sold it believably, particularly the facial contortions. And it wasn’t played for laughs or as the character’s sole trait. So as someone with a stutter that was nice to see. Maybe that makes me biased, I don’t know but I thought it was an excellent performance. Oh also, Brandy should go down as one of the coolest dogs in film. What did you think of Brad Dourif in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Aug 12, 2019 20:56:09 GMT
I haven't seen it yet, but I heard through the grapevine that Us' third act is tremendously better than Hollywood's.
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Post by AKenjiB on Aug 12, 2019 21:07:51 GMT
I know 99% of viewers won’t care about this and that’s fine but Leonardo DiCaprio gave possibly the 2nd best stutter I’ve ever seen in a film. It’s not exaggerated at all, often quite subtle actually, but he sold it believably, particularly the facial contortions. And it wasn’t played for laughs or as the character’s sole trait. So as someone with a stutter that was nice to see. Maybe that makes me biased, I don’t know but I thought it was an excellent performance. Oh also, Brandy should go down as one of the coolest dogs in film. What did you think of Brad Dourif in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? I think it’s an excellent performance in a general sense with a pretty good stutter. It’s much more showy than DiCaprio but some people have worse stutters than others so that’s not necessarily a bad thing. I think his acting in the last scene with Nurse Ratched is probably the strongest, the way he’s not simply repeating words but rather struggles to get words out, avoiding eye contact as this happens, was pretty relatable. Best one I’ve ever seen is Reece Thompson in Rocket Science.
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Post by Good God on Aug 12, 2019 21:11:01 GMT
I think it’s an excellent performance in a general sense with a pretty good stutter. It’s much more showy than DiCaprio but some people have worse stutters than others so that’s not necessarily a bad thing. I think his acting in the last scene with Nurse Ratched is probably the strongest, the way he’s not simply repeating words but rather struggles to get words out, avoiding eye contact as this happens, was pretty relatable. Best one I’ve ever seen is Reece Thompson in Rocket Science. Good to hear you thought he did the stutter well, because that to me is the best Supporting performance I've ever seen. Haven't watched Rocket Science. Might get to it sometime.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Aug 12, 2019 22:09:47 GMT
I haven't seen it yet, but I heard through the grapevine that Us' third act is tremendously better than Hollywood's. You heard WRONG. The 3rd/final act is BY FAAAR the best part of the film. I loved the whole thing, but the ending is a MASTERSTROKE!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 3:01:24 GMT
I haven't seen it yet, but I heard through the grapevine that Us' third act is tremendously better than Hollywood's. You heard WRONG. The 3rd/final act is BY FAAAR the best part of the film. I loved the whole thing, but the ending is a MASTERSTROKE! The 3rd act is ‘aight by Tarantino standards and expectations. The 2nd act of “Hollywood” is easily the best in the movie, and, even then, only Brad Pitt’s non-flashback narrative strand, really. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 3:31:30 GMT
You heard WRONG. The 3rd/final act is BY FAAAR the best part of the film. I loved the whole thing, but the ending is a MASTERSTROKE! The 3rd act is ‘aight by Tarantino standards and expectations. The 3rd act is so good that I actually feel kinda bad for all the times I made fun of Tarantino in the past.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 5:31:33 GMT
The 3rd act is so good that I actually feel kinda bad for all the times I made fun of Tarantino in the past. At times, I almost thought the 3rd act of “Hollywood” was Tarantino having a laugh at the expectations he’s created for himself... ... almost.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Aug 13, 2019 7:05:42 GMT
You heard WRONG. The 3rd/final act is BY FAAAR the best part of the film. I loved the whole thing, but the ending is a MASTERSTROKE! The 3rd act is ‘aight by Tarantino standards and expectations. The 2nd act of “Hollywood” is easily the best in the movie, and, even then, only Brad Pitt’s non-flashback narrative strand, really. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Yeah, but you're mistaken. Try again.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Aug 13, 2019 7:19:41 GMT
Honest question/poll...
Dicaprio or Pitt?
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Post by mhynson27 on Aug 13, 2019 8:46:38 GMT
Honest question/poll... Dicaprio or Pitt? DiCaprio
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Post by Christ_Ian_Bale on Aug 13, 2019 9:37:08 GMT
Honest question/poll... Dicaprio or Pitt? I knew right away that I loved everything DiCaprio was doing, and he has so much to work with and take a bite out of, whereas it took multiple viewings and constantly thinking back to him to really appreciate what Pitt was doing. So I guess you could say Pitt's performance is more rewarding in the long run.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 14:44:19 GMT
Yeah, but you're mistaken. Try again. I like to think of my take on the 3rd act as a revised history version of yours
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 15:18:39 GMT
Honest question/poll... Dicaprio or Pitt? Pitt. I think this is my new favorite performance from him. DiCaprio was good but has been better in a few other movies IMO.
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Post by stephen on Aug 13, 2019 18:52:12 GMT
Honest question/poll... Dicaprio or Pitt? DiCaprio, but it's mostly due to the fact that I thought that his sequences of the film were the best aspects of it. Pitt did very well with what he had, but I also feel like Tarantino really missed a lot of opportunities with his character.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Aug 14, 2019 0:05:52 GMT
When Sally Menke died, so too did Tarantino. Because once again, he’s let down again by his bloated, tangent-happy ego. There are some genuinely terrific things about this movie—DiCaprio’s “acting” as Rick Dalton, the Bruce Lee fight—but the rest of it felt either superfluous or aggravatingly smug. It’s not as woefully dire as The Hateful Eight, but it feels like Tarantino’s most pedestrian effort to date, and that’s somehow worse. I was trying to avoid spoilers before seeing it today, but someone on another forum just said that they liked it but would only rank it above The Hateful Eight and Death Proof, so I tried not to go in expecting too much. I mean it was okay, but I don't get all the love for it other than DiCaprio and Pitt who really elevate it. Still even then, it felt more like one of those Tarantino knock-offs from the '90s that were really popular for awhile there. A great knock-off, but a knock-off nonetheless. I will say pacinoyes is absolutely going to hate this, and I can't really blame him. That ending. Wow. No words. I get that it's a fairy tale, but I get now why there were so many questions about his use of actresses in his films. Usually he writes strong female roles, but in this I guess there was Margaret Qualley who got a little bit to do. Other than that, there was barely anything especially for poor Margot Robbie. I feel like there's going to be a lot of think pieces about Tarantino picking this historical event where a man commanded so many women to follow his bidding along with why Robbie's Tate had to have two men save her and why those men used so much violence against the two women that they killed. I really don't know what Tarantino was going for other than I guess he loves time period, and wanted to include one of the big tragedies of that time. I think it would have worked better either as either focusing more on Tate or just cutting that part out, and just having it be about Rick and Cliff. Fact and fiction worked for me until the ending, but then it just went off the rails for me. Just got back from it and Wow what a letdown. I was so hyped for this shit too (by far my most anticipated film of this year actually) and so much of it fell flat for me. Don't get me wrong, its not all terrible. Pitt & Leo had some cool moments but JFC overall what a pointless shit show. 5.5/10 Between this film , The Hateful Eight and the 3rd act of Django , I gotta say Tarantino has fallen off hard. I'm kinda now on the fence if I even want him to direct his Star Trek film idea he keeps rambling about lately lol. I agree. It's pretty sad too because he used to be one of my favorite directors, and I still hope that he's just in a slump. I don't know though because he seem so far up his own butt at times. When he's not doing that, I think there's a lot of potential in Once Upon a Time..., but then it seems like he just help himself and inserts a reference to his other works which just took me out of it. Ooof...sounds rough. I can acknowledge Tarantino's influence and unique place in film culture, and also acknowledge that he may also be ridiculously overrated as well. But I had high hopes for this one. We don't always agree (which is great!), so I may end up really digging it, but I haven't loved a Tarantino film in awhile, so this doesn't exactly raise my expectations. Critics are permanently in the tank for Tarantino, so it's hard to always ascertain how good his latest is just based on reviews. I'm really surprised that it's doing so well with them. I mean I think it's good, but I would say maybe in the 70-80 range for me. And it gets worse. Were the Pitt/DiCaprio Oscar "lock" talk fanciful hyperbole? I think that they're probably locked for a nomination because this is the first real big Oscar bait movie, and they're big stars. Plus, they were the best things about the movie. I wouldn't give them the win though, but depending on the competition, I think a nomination would be deserved. Poor Margot Robbie though. It's funny that she was my predicted winner for awhile there until Cannes, but it's even worse than I expected. "I feel like there's going to be a lot of think pieces...", yeah, IDIOTIC think-free pieces from pathetic SJW hacks!! The ending is the heart and soul of the movie, and is a thing of BEAUTY. Right down to the beautiful and haunting final shot. I never knew a scene could be so blatantly meta AND devastatingly moving at the same time, but this somehow managed to.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Aug 14, 2019 0:36:05 GMT
The third act is definitely the film’s heart. It’s emblematic of the whole film, including and especially it’s flaws. It clearly has ideas, is fun, and Tarantino is unashamed in showing his love for that golden age of films, but it’s also incredibly confused, overlong, and indulgent even for Tarantino. For that finale to work, the Manson and Tate material either needed to be trimmed, or more naturally interwoven into Rick and Cliff’s stories. It just feels like a sudden deviation, and what pay off it has is too little, too late. And it only further exacerbates problems earlier in the movie.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is a fun movie, but it’s also a very uneven one. And I hope that Quentin comes back strong with film ten, because if he calls it quits here, that’d be upsetting. I don’t want “passable” to be the note he goes out on.
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Post by moonman157 on Aug 14, 2019 2:08:35 GMT
Get on the right side of history my friends. The naysayers will end up looking like the people who dunked on Jackie Brown at the time of release.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Aug 14, 2019 2:53:49 GMT
All these high notices from trustworthy people has made me wanna see this faster than I originally had planned. Will still take me about 6 months because of how cheap I am, but I'm anticipating it lives up to what some of you guys say about it.
If it can be as revolutionary as Pulp Fiction, have the high cinema vérité values of Death Proof, and be as enriching as Kill Bill: Volume 2 in its beautiful backstories.
I like Tarantino's last 3 to varying degrees, but they're not stuff I'd praise as standard setting as his best 3 films.
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Post by countjohn on Aug 14, 2019 2:57:44 GMT
All these high notices from trustworthy people Obviously this means me, right?
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Post by countjohn on Aug 14, 2019 2:59:06 GMT
Honest question/poll... Dicaprio or Pitt? In this movie or in general? Answer for me is Leo either way. Not a massive fan of either (neither belong on any greatest actor lists) but Leo is more consistent and their peaks are pretty similar.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Aug 14, 2019 4:02:28 GMT
Get on the right side of history my friends. The naysayers will end up looking like the people who dunked on Jackie Brown at the time of release. What if it goes the way of American Beauty?
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Aug 14, 2019 4:10:59 GMT
The third act is definitely the film’s heart. It’s emblematic of the whole film, including and especially it’s flaws. It clearly has ideas, is fun, and Tarantino is unashamed in showing his love for that golden age of films, but it’s also incredibly confused, overlong, and indulgent even for Tarantino. For that finale to work, the Manson and Tate material either needed to be trimmed, or more naturally interwoven into Rick and Cliff’s stories. It just feels like a sudden deviation, and what pay off it has is too little, too late. And it only further exacerbates problems earlier in the movie. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is a fun movie, but it’s also a very uneven one. And I hope that Quentin comes back strong with film ten, because if he calls it quits here, that’d be upsetting. I don’t want “passable” to be the note he goes out on. Yeah...NO.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Aug 14, 2019 4:23:43 GMT
The third act is definitely the film’s heart. It’s emblematic of the whole film, including and especially it’s flaws. It clearly has ideas, is fun, and Tarantino is unashamed in showing his love for that golden age of films, but it’s also incredibly confused, overlong, and indulgent even for Tarantino. For that finale to work, the Manson and Tate material either needed to be trimmed, or more naturally interwoven into Rick and Cliff’s stories. It just feels like a sudden deviation, and what pay off it has is too little, too late. And it only further exacerbates problems earlier in the movie. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is a fun movie, but it’s also a very uneven one. And I hope that Quentin comes back strong with film ten, because if he calls it quits here, that’d be upsetting. I don’t want “passable” to be the note he goes out on. Yeah...NO. You’re entitled to your beliefs, and I respect them. That’s the beauty of individuality.
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Post by moonman157 on Aug 14, 2019 4:33:51 GMT
Get on the right side of history my friends. The naysayers will end up looking like the people who dunked on Jackie Brown at the time of release. What if it goes the way of American Beauty? That movie is dumb as fuck. This one is not.
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