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Post by no on Mar 8, 2017 4:46:35 GMT
This was a popular one on the boards and opened up some great discussions.
What are some of your unpopular opinions?
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Post by Film Socialism on Mar 8, 2017 5:34:39 GMT
economics aside i don't hate trump (immigration ban was bullshit)
critics are brainless about genre films
sheik is the 2nd best character in melee
it's impossible for me to really feel anything in a film if the budget is over like 150M since it's so difficult to suspend disbelief at that point
acting is irrelevant usually
long distance relationships aren't even bad
women can "miss" the point of Goodfellas easier than men, same for men and Fish Tank, straight people and Carol, etc.
memes are a higher art than video games atm
free speech should be seriously considered as a right and not just seen as an automatic given
capital letters are overrated
never separate the art from the artist
there is literally nothing wrong with staying alone indoors during most of your free time and society's pressure for you not to is super weird
islam as a belief system is not much different from other abrahamic ones but the others have modernized more on the grand scheme and i wish this was something people wouldn't distance themselves from due to islamaphobia or w/e (which is a real thing as well, but not in this case imo). i'll add that islam has definitely been more modern than the other religions at various points throughout history and i'm not religious
feminism is not a belief, it's a movement. the belief that women deserve equal rights and status as men is perhaps a tenant, but feminism frequently has shifted and evolved. so when i saw i'm not a feminist because i'm not a feminist now, it's not implying that i wouldn't have been many years ago (assuming i was just warped to that time era of course; impossible to know what a 50s version of me would be like). MRAs are just straight up dumb tho
microbudget filmmaking is more interesting than hollywood filmmaking - only at this point in time tho
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Post by flasuss on Mar 8, 2017 6:23:49 GMT
Political discussion on the internet made me understand better the rise of Nazism and Communism. People dislike a politician and or an ideology, often rightfully so, then begin to automatically support whatever idiot that opposes them, and whatever that idiot says and does, regardless of it's the right thing.
I said it makes me understand better the rise of Nazism and Communism because the ascension of those totalitarian ideologies was only possible exactly because a lot of otherwise good people begun to support one simply because they opposed the other is huge, and I'm worried we might be seeing something similar in the future as well, with people supporting some charismatic populist that turns out to be a tyrant simply because "hey, at least he isn't THAT other asshole".
And yes, the left is just as much guilty of it as the right.
As for other non-political related points:
The importance of accents in acting is massively overrated.
Game of Thrones jumped the shark by the end of s05. The more it started to deviate from the books, the worse it became, but by the end of that season it just became too ridiculous to take it seriously.
Moonlight is a good film, but very overrated- it got all that acclaim because it hit the "gay, black, poor" trifecta and because of the unique Oscars So White/Rise of Trump moment.
Beyonce is the most overrated artist of our time (all time, maybe?). Pretty much all her songs are third-rate crap with nothing to say, but she gets out of any criticism because she's "OMG, SHE'S SUCH A BLACK/FEMINIST ICON/GODDESS/DIVA/WARRIORS/WHATEVER".
Also, I'm not sure if at this point it counts as controversial, but if it is 2017 and you still don't believe OJ did it, you're a fucking imbecile.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Mar 8, 2017 6:24:48 GMT
I'm at a breaking point when it comes to cynicism in film. It's so lazy and filmmakers treat it like it's such a profound thing to have a thought that doesn't get any more complex than "the world is shit." Way too many films with talented directors, casts, cinematographers, and even decent narratives settle for little more than just shelling out to the audience that things are bad with absolutely nothing of greater substance to argue. And film culture generally skews towards cynicism, so films that mindlessly go that route are praised and films that don't are inevitably faced with the non-criticisms of being "light" or "sentimental." Hell, even films that are bittersweet are liable to criticism, as though any film that doesn't feature terrible people or decent ones living in bad situations is inherently inferior.
While I do appreciate a good meme and would agree with catrician that they're a form of art, I have become increasingly uncomfortable with how they have become utilized, especially in terms of politics. It's essentially open season for anybody to type their dumbest ideas on a picture, share it on Facebook, then watch as the propaganda spreads everywhere to obfuscate intellectual discussion as people resort all of their thinking into a picture with an eight-word caption. I prefer my memes as bite sized nuggets of entertainment and every now and then stumble upon the rare insightful meme (pretty much never insightful on politics), nothing more.
I'll start with those two, might post more later.
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Post by Film Socialism on Mar 8, 2017 6:28:37 GMT
I'm at a breaking point when it comes to cynicism in film. It's so lazy and filmmakers treat it like it's such a profound thing to have a thought that doesn't get any more complex than "the world is shit." Way too many films with talented directors, casts, cinematographers, and even decent narratives settle for little more than just shelling out to the audience that things are bad with absolutely nothing of greater substance to argue. And film culture generally skews towards cynicism, so films that mindlessly go that route are praised and films that don't are inevitably faced with the non-criticisms of being "light" or "sentimental." Hell, even films that are bittersweet are liable to criticism, as though any film that doesn't feature terrible people or decent ones living in bad situations is inherently inferior. While I do appreciate a good meme and would agree with catrician that they're a form of art, I have become increasingly uncomfortable with how they have become utilized, especially in terms of politics. It's essentially open season for anybody to type their dumbest ideas on a picture, share it on Facebook, then watch as the propaganda spreads everywhere to obfuscate intellectual discussion as people resort all of their thinking into a picture with an eight-word caption. I prefer my memes as bite sized nuggets of entertainment and every now and then stumble upon the rare insightful meme (pretty much never insightful on politics), nothing more. I'll start with those two, might post more later. would've love reacted for the first paragraph and angry reacted to the second but it balances out so you get a like i'll give you that normie memes are unquestionably cancer but then again normies tend to ruin most things so that's no big revelation
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Mar 8, 2017 8:40:05 GMT
I'm at a breaking point when it comes to cynicism in film. It's so lazy and filmmakers treat it like it's such a profound thing to have a thought that doesn't get any more complex than "the world is shit." Way too many films with talented directors, casts, cinematographers, and even decent narratives settle for little more than just shelling out to the audience that things are bad with absolutely nothing of greater substance to argue. And film culture generally skews towards cynicism, so films that mindlessly go that route are praised and films that don't are inevitably faced with the non-criticisms of being "light" or "sentimental." Hell, even films that are bittersweet are liable to criticism, as though any film that doesn't feature terrible people or decent ones living in bad situations is inherently inferior. While I do appreciate a good meme and would agree with catrician that they're a form of art, I have become increasingly uncomfortable with how they have become utilized, especially in terms of politics. It's essentially open season for anybody to type their dumbest ideas on a picture, share it on Facebook, then watch as the propaganda spreads everywhere to obfuscate intellectual discussion as people resort all of their thinking into a picture with an eight-word caption. I prefer my memes as bite sized nuggets of entertainment and every now and then stumble upon the rare insightful meme (pretty much never insightful on politics), nothing more. I'll start with those two, might post more later. I wish I could double, or even triple like a post sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 9:44:28 GMT
I'm at a breaking point when it comes to cynicism in film. It's so lazy and filmmakers treat it like it's such a profound thing to have a thought that doesn't get any more complex than "the world is shit." Way too many films with talented directors, casts, cinematographers, and even decent narratives settle for little more than just shelling out to the audience that things are bad with absolutely nothing of greater substance to argue. And film culture generally skews towards cynicism, so films that mindlessly go that route are praised and films that don't are inevitably faced with the non-criticisms of being "light" or "sentimental." Hell, even films that are bittersweet are liable to criticism, as though any film that doesn't feature terrible people or decent ones living in bad situations is inherently inferior. While I do appreciate a good meme and would agree with catrician that they're a form of art, I have become increasingly uncomfortable with how they have become utilized, especially in terms of politics. It's essentially open season for anybody to type their dumbest ideas on a picture, share it on Facebook, then watch as the propaganda spreads everywhere to obfuscate intellectual discussion as people resort all of their thinking into a picture with an eight-word caption. I prefer my memes as bite sized nuggets of entertainment and every now and then stumble upon the rare insightful meme (pretty much never insightful on politics), nothing more. I'll start with those two, might post more later. Disliked it to like it again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 15:20:19 GMT
Hitler didn't do anything objectively wrong
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Post by harlequinade on Mar 8, 2017 15:23:24 GMT
Game of Thrones jumped the shark by the end of s05. The more it started to deviate from the books, the worse it became, but by the end of that season it just became too ridiculous to take it seriously. Moonlight is a good film, but very overrated- it got all that acclaim because it hit the "gay, black, poor" trifecta and because of the unique Oscars So White/Rise of Trump moment. Beyonce is the most overrated artist of our time (all time, maybe?). Pretty much all her songs are third-rate crap with nothing to say, but she gets out of any criticism because she's "OMG, SHE'S SUCH A BLACK/FEMINIST ICON/GODDESS/DIVA/WARRIORS/WHATEVER". Also, I'm not sure if at this point it counts as controversial, but if it is 2017 and you still don't believe OJ did it, you're a fucking imbecile. Oh my God I love you! Especially the Thrones thing
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Post by erickeitel on Mar 8, 2017 21:25:32 GMT
Society is way, way, way too dependent on the internet. Especially in America, given how much technological surplus there is.
There is no such thing as political impartiality in 2017. If you're impartial, you're not interested in politics in general.
More than that, apathy played a big part in Trump's election. People thinking it would be funny to see him win, that there would be no repurcussions to the country or economy, that his proposals would never pass because why would it? are all indications of people who don't take politics or this country's future seriously. (I blame Debbie Wasserman Schultz for the Democratic party's loss more than anything else otherwise.)
Most edgelords are a reflection of how poorly they've been treated in general. They're just as fragile and sensitive as the SJWs they make fun of.
"Auteur" is one of those words (like "literally") that is so frequently misused that it's lost all meaning. Auteur theory was an academic concept that so few people seem to take seriously; now it just appears to mean a director who's good. And "vulgar auteur theory" isn't a credible concept at all-it's just a way to make Hollywood flops look smart.
I don't miss IMDb's boards. The model and layout were painfully dated and the mods didn't give a shit to run the place properly.
American education was shit before Betsy DeVos got her hand on it.
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Post by ohbananas91 on Mar 9, 2017 1:39:37 GMT
American education was shit before Betsy DeVos got her hand on it. This is no lie, it's been crap for years. They focus too much on crap like standardized test and nowadays they don't teach cursive, basic economics, how to budget and balance a damn checkbook among other things that are important in everyday life.
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Post by erickeitel on Mar 9, 2017 3:14:36 GMT
American education was shit before Betsy DeVos got her hand on it. This is no lie, it's been crap for years. They focus too much on crap like standardized test and nowadays they don't teach cursive, basic economics, how to budget and balance a damn checkbook among other things that are important in everyday life. Worse, they only favor one style of learning. Not everybody learns best taking notes in a classroom full of students.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 9, 2017 3:15:36 GMT
Hitler didn't do anything objectively wrong
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Post by no on Mar 9, 2017 3:24:41 GMT
Society is way, way, way too dependent on the internet. Especially in America, given how much technological surplus there is. There is no such thing as political impartiality in 2017. If you're impartial, you're not interested in politics in general. More than that, apathy played a big part in Trump's election. People thinking it would be funny to see him win, that there would be no repurcussions to the country or economy, that his proposals would never pass because why would it? are all indications of people who don't take politics or this country's future seriously. (I blame Debbie Wasserman Schultz for the Democratic party's loss more than anything else otherwise.) Most edgelords are a reflection of how poorly they've been treated in general. They're just as fragile and sensitive as the SJWs they make fun of. "Auteur" is one of those words (like "literally") that is so frequently misused that it's lost all meaning. Auteur theory was an academic concept that so few people seem to take seriously; now it just appears to mean a director who's good. And "vulgar auteur theory" isn't a credible concept at all-it's just a way to make Hollywood flops look smart. I don't miss IMDb's boards. The model and layout were painfully dated and the mods didn't give a shit to run the place properly. American education was shit before Betsy DeVos got her hand on it. Agreed about Trump voters. I didn't even know the boards had mods lol.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 9, 2017 4:38:09 GMT
Cheese sucks... and since someone will bring up my fondness for pizza, mozzarella isn't cheese. It's soft, meltable (apparently this isn't a word) salt.
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Post by Film Socialism on Mar 9, 2017 6:16:06 GMT
Hitler didn't do anything objectively wrong what would one define as "objectively wrong" to begin w/ i guess he didn't do anything objectively wrong but then neither did anyone else in history if you're using that definition
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 12:19:45 GMT
Hitler didn't do anything objectively wrong what would one define as "objectively wrong" to begin w/ i guess he didn't do anything objectively wrong but then neither did anyone else in history if you're using that definition Since I don't believe in objective morality, I don't believe anyone can do something objectively wrong. So technically, that includes Hitler. So phrasing it about specifically Hitler, and not objective morality in general, makes it a whole lot more unpopular.
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Post by moonman157 on Mar 9, 2017 14:54:03 GMT
Lolling very hard @ young undergrads discussing "philosophy" tbh
You guys will regret these kinda discussions when you get a few years older
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Post by tobias on Mar 9, 2017 15:06:59 GMT
Many of the opinions in this thread aren't unpopular (possibly including this one?).
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Post by Film Socialism on Mar 9, 2017 18:45:35 GMT
Lolling very hard @ young undergrads discussing "philosophy" tbh You guys will regret these kinda discussions when you get a few years older i'll gladly admit i know nothing about ethics and morals etc if it makes u feel better
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 19:43:15 GMT
Lolling very hard @ young undergrads discussing "philosophy" tbh You guys will regret these kinda discussions when you get a few years older If you're referring to my conversation, then are you implying objective morality does exist?
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Mar 9, 2017 20:43:52 GMT
Hitler didn't do anything objectively wrong I know in your replies you're saying that objective morality not existing is what you're really claiming to, but then this just seems like a try-hard kind of statement. For one, I doubt objective morality is the popular opinion. Everybody is relativistic in terms of moral judgment and it's not hard to see enough disagreement in the world about them to showcase that morals do not have some scientific method to conclude their validity. So, in the case of Hitler, yes he did nothing objectively wrong but what he did is almost universally considered subjectively wrong so what is there to gain by making this statement other than seeming edgy without really saying anything?
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Post by moonman157 on Mar 9, 2017 20:46:15 GMT
Lolling very hard @ young undergrads discussing "philosophy" tbh You guys will regret these kinda discussions when you get a few years older i'll gladly admit i know nothing about ethics and morals etc if it makes u feel better Nah mate, was mostly talking about the other guy. These types of "whoa is reality even real" bong-infused conversations just seem kinda funny now these days though. The edgy "whoa Hitler did nothing wrong!" mentality should stay on 4chan and is just so utterly bankrupt of anything other than "lmao mum I'm being contrarian online."
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Post by cornnetto on Mar 9, 2017 20:50:49 GMT
There is a lot of people out there arguing about some form of objective morality/ moral truth, people of some religion tend to believe in it obviously, but also in the secular world.
Take objectivity and truth here in the sense: It is objectively truth that round is a better shape than a square for your car wheel, if you say that this statement is false or need to add if you want to go somewhere with you car maybe it all fall down right away.
It often goes with something like this.
It is objectively immoral and wrong to deliberality do an action that has as a goal to cause the maximum of suffering for all sensible living being in the universe for all the rest of time.
And try to build from that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 21:09:43 GMT
Hitler didn't do anything objectively wrong I know in you're replies you're saying that objective morality not existing is what you're really claiming to, but then this just seems like a try-hard kind of statement. For one, I doubt objective morality is the popular opinion. Everybody is relativistic in terms of moral judgment and it's not hard to see enough disagreement in the world about them to showcase that morals do not have some scientific method to conclude their validity. So, in the case of Hitler, yes he did nothing objectively wrong but what he did is almost universally considered subjectively wrong so what is there to gain by making this statement other than seeming edgy without really saying anything? That's kind of the point. The fact that the statement sparked so much controversy, just within this thread, proves it. By making this claim (which I technically do believe), I am being both honest, and extremely unpopular. Of course, I subjectively believe Hitler was a horrible person, but that's not what I claimed. I claimed an honest opinion which is extremely unpopular, and by doing so I have fulfilled the request of the OP, and done it to the best of my ability.
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