viacom1
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Post by viacom1 on Mar 7, 2017 2:24:28 GMT
If you were an actor/actress doing an ensemble movie, would you rather be top billed (Meryl Streep in Into the Woods, Brad Pitt in Babel, Matthew McConaughey in The Paperboy, etc) or final "and" billed (Jennifer Lawrence in American Hustle, Bruce Willis in Pulp Fiction, Alan Arkin in Little Miss Sunshine, etc)?
Choose.
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Post by bob-coppola on Mar 7, 2017 2:55:05 GMT
It depends a lot of what stage of my career I'm in and what kind of role I'm playing. I like the "... and" billing cause it's so glamorous. It's like they're saying "this guy showed up for 2 minutes in the set yet we're still giving him a special thanks 'cause he's just that good". If I were an older actor playing a minor role, or if I felt like I could get a supporting nod for that, I'd fight for an "... and" billing". But if I was a younger actor or in my prime, I'd prefer top billing.
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Post by mrx2848 on Mar 7, 2017 4:51:16 GMT
I think a good application of 'With/And' can add a lot of flavor and drama to a casting decision. Most of the time, whoever is top billed for a movie is pretty much what you expect. It's the hero, the lead. But given a 'with' or and 'and' is something more. You don't just have an important supporting role, it's a role that YOU are important in. It's an indication that it is an honor just to have you there, and you made the role special.
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Post by stephen on Mar 7, 2017 4:51:54 GMT
Would love to get the "and" treatment.
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Post by ChairfaceC on Mar 7, 2017 5:28:54 GMT
I wanna be "or" billed, for the intrigue.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Mar 7, 2017 5:50:22 GMT
"And" - Makes me sound like I'm playing a real important character.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 7, 2017 5:50:41 GMT
I'd like the Iain Glen treatment. Get the "with" credit when there's no "and" credit.
It's been two seasons and still bugs the shit out of me...
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Post by agent69 on Mar 7, 2017 8:40:04 GMT
Top billing. "And" is a consolidation unless it is basically a cameo.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Mar 7, 2017 8:44:20 GMT
I'd like to think if I was an actor I wouldn't give a crap about crap like that, but then I would expect a lot of actors might have thought the same before they made it and then ego gets in the way of not being a fuckwit.
I picked the 'and' billing, but if I was a big star and working on set with some douche dick nightmare who was insisting on Top Billing, I would probably insist on the same just to piss them off.
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Post by harlequinade on Mar 7, 2017 13:16:45 GMT
"and"
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Post by bob-coppola on Mar 7, 2017 15:34:22 GMT
I wanna be "or" billed, for the intrigue. Fight Club, starring Brad Pitt or Edward Norton.
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Post by countjohn on Mar 7, 2017 22:51:46 GMT
Probably top billed. Although "And" would be cool if all the other cast members were just listed alphabetically with me at the end, and/or if my part was tiny. The "And a Special Appearance by" tag (only seen if for Katharine and Audrey Hepburn later in their careers) would be even better.
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Post by dazed on Mar 8, 2017 0:36:52 GMT
Introducing.
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Post by flasuss on Mar 8, 2017 0:57:36 GMT
Depends. If you're far from being the lead role, then being first billed is sort of ridiculous. On the other hand, if you are, it means you're the first name people remember. So I guess it depends.
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Post by forksforest on Mar 8, 2017 5:47:32 GMT
"And". I always remember the person billed as "and"--leaves a lasting impression.
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Post by napierslogs on Mar 9, 2017 23:45:16 GMT
Can't vote because for me it would depend entirely on the role. If it was the lead role of the film, I would want to be top billed, if it was a supporting role of any size (but not the lead), I would want to be final "and" billed.
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Post by flasuss on Mar 10, 2017 1:10:19 GMT
Can't vote because for me it would depend entirely on the role. If it was the lead role of the film, I would want to be top billed, if it was a supporting role of any size (but not the lead), I would want to be final "and" billed. Seems about right.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 10, 2017 17:43:09 GMT
If it was a lead role then top billing. If not then "and."
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Post by marvelass on Mar 12, 2017 17:41:48 GMT
A lot of people don't see it that way. After AHS: Hotel premiered, I remember on IMDb there were many Gaga fans who were infuriated that she wasn't credited first or among the first; they thought being credited last was an insult to such a superstar. I (and others) had to explain the significance of "And" and "With" crediting. Some of them still didn't get it, though. So, I'm inclined to believe that the majority of filmgoers don't know, either, and will view "And" or "With" as meaningless.
I think you meant consolation?
Whatever happened to this credit, anyway? I think the last time I saw it (and before that, it had been a long while, too) was during the end credits (there were no opening titles) of Dreamgirls, where Jennifer Hudson's name was preceded by "And Introducing..." Later, on the DVD cover, after she won her Oscar, she was credited as "Introducing Academy Award-Winner Jennifer Hudson," but prior to that, her name had been conspicuously absent on the posters and trailer/TV spots. Incidentally, Eddie Murphy received the "And" credit, even though there were only three people credited above the title.
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