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Post by theycallmemrfish on Apr 21, 2019 8:11:08 GMT
Watching the S3 finale, I have to say...
Coming from personal experience,
Matthew Fox does a wonderful job of alcoholism... An AMAZING job of it... as much as it pains me to say.
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Post by stephen on Apr 21, 2019 14:13:41 GMT
First time, or a rewatch?
Lost is packed with deceptively great performances, but I think overall it's hindered by two things: the showrunners' seeming inability to plot ahead so that the overall story makes sense from start to finish, and the general network TV format. It would've worked much better with 13-episode seasons. That's why I think The Leftovers is the better show.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Apr 21, 2019 15:01:59 GMT
First time, or a rewatch? Lost is packed with deceptively great performances, but I think overall it's hindered by two things: the showrunners' seeming inability to plot ahead so that the overall story makes sense from start to finish, and the general network TV format. It would've worked much better with 13-episode seasons. That's why I think The Leftovers is the better show. Rewatch. I still mean to watch The Leftovers, and I was really liking the half the season I went through... but TV is like my comfort food. I keep going back to what I like best. |
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Post by stephen on Apr 21, 2019 15:11:12 GMT
Fair enough, but man, make The Leftovers your priority right after Lost. Do it for me, Ripley.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 19:27:12 GMT
I was just thinking about how good this show was again and looked to see if there was a thread about it  I actually think Season 3 is overall one of the very best parts of the series. I won’t argue that it has some of the show’s worst moments too, but the highs are HIGH. Stephen is right - it suffers from the clear lack of thought put into how the story would unfold and there’s some dull filler here and there (and, most egregiously of all, completely falls apart thematically in the last season...with the exception of the crazy, emotional final episode). But despite that, I love what it explores about relationships, self-actualization, fate, etc. in its unique setting, and the actors just go for broke, even when it doesn’t totally work. Fox was superb. I’d rank the seasons: 4 > 3 > 1 > 2 > 5 > 6 |
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 5, 2020 8:55:01 GMT
About to restart the series... and I'm going to tell you all how great so many things in this are...
And what is shit too...
But rewatching a certain episode, and I have to reiterate how good Matthew Fox is at being a hopeless drunk.
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Post by stephen on Mar 5, 2020 16:13:26 GMT
About to restart the series... and I'm going to tell you all how great so many things in this are... And what is shit too... But rewatching a certain episode, and I have to reiterate how good Matthew Fox is at being a hopeless drunk. Have you watched The Leftovers yet? |
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 5, 2020 16:19:45 GMT
About to restart the series... and I'm going to tell you all how great so many things in this are... And what is shit too... But rewatching a certain episode, and I have to reiterate how good Matthew Fox is at being a hopeless drunk. Have you watched The Leftovers yet? I watched the first 4/5 episodes and I was liking it quite a bit (with the exception of all the kids) but for the life of me, I don't remember what I got started on that sidetracked me. Anyway, since I've seen this a solid 3x, I figure it'd be a good background while I play Isolation this weekend. |
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Post by wilcinema on Mar 31, 2020 8:26:23 GMT
The first season of The Leftovers is a letdown, the other two are some of the best television ever made. Miles ahead of Lost.
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Post by Viced on Nov 10, 2020 16:23:14 GMT
Finally watched this behemoth over the last few months. After sleeping on the finale last night, I'm giving the series a 9/10 and putting it at #16 on my favorite TV shows list on IMDb (mslovak in the house). I agree with stephen that it would've greatly benefited from 13 episode seasons and the writers knowing wtf they were doing on a consistent basis... but I was very entertained for the majority of the 118 episodes and it ended well enough for me to forgive most of the clunker episodes and batshit moments. Season ranking1. 5 - the only season without a bad episode. Actually pretty much every episode was great/nearly great, even if I was somewhat sick of the time travel flashes and neverending 1977 section. 2. 3 - would be an easy #1 if not for the slow start to the season and handful of lame episodes throughout. The finale is the highpoint of the series and where it becomes something special. 3. 4 - mostly lives up to the promise that the season 3 finale set up. But slightly hampered by the brilliant The Constant being followed up by a very lame Juliet flashback episode... when the rest of the season are all flashforwards. What? 4. 2 - let down in retrospect by all the time wasted on the tail section people (when all except for one die pretty soon after), but all the stuff with the hatch and the excellent finale bump it over season 1. 5. 1 - a great opening season and introduction to the characters and island, but the series clearly got more interesting as it went along. 6. 6 - Mostly mediocre, unfortunately. This is where the show just goes way too far up the ass of its own mythology. The temple stuff sucked, the Richard Alpert episode (even though I loved that guy) was superfluous, and the stuff with Jacob/Smokey was never all that interesting to me. There's a fine line between letting the mystery be and over-explaining, and I think we got too much backstory on the island and Jacob here. But the Desmond episode and the finale were great, and most of the last quarter of the season or so made up for the lame shit. The finale - for years I knew the image of Jack lying dead next to the dog (based Vincent) and thought it was "they were all dead the whole time!" Which... thank god was not the case. The alternate reality/purgatory/whatever the fuck flashes throughout the season were interesting and I had no clue what they were leading to. I think fake John Locke having such an impact on the island stuff in the final season was lame, but Jack believing in the island and wanting to become the new Jacob was an appropriate way for his story to end. The moments of remembrance between the characters are pretty perfect touches for a finale, and I was tearing up in the final few minutes. That bastard Christian Shephard really brought a lot of gravitas to his big moments.
Overall, not an absolutely perfect way to end the series... but still pretty great. Not surprised that the common pleb hates it.
But at the same time, I think the show would've benefitted by ending with the detonation of the hydrogen bomb at the end of season 5. Obviously a few tweaks would've had to have been made to make the episode more of an endgame, but that would've been a hell of a way to go out. Favorite Episodes1. Through the Looking Glass 2. The Constant 3. Live Together, Die Alone 4. The Incident: Part 2 5. The Shape of Things to Come Favorite Characters1. Sawyer - loved him as the sarcastic asshole conman, but his growth throughout the series was remarkable. 2. John Locke - was #1 until he turned into a madman in season 3. 3. Desmond 4. Benjamin Linus 5. Jack in the running: Sayid, Jin, Juliet, Mr. Eko (if he stuck around longer) Worst Characters: Charles Widmore, Michael, Ana Lucia Best Performances1. Terry O'Quinn 2. Michael Emerson 3. Matthew Fox 4. Henry Ian Cusick 5. Josh Holloway also, this scene might be the most joy I've ever experienced watching a TV drama: |
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Post by ibbi on Nov 14, 2020 19:44:51 GMT
I have been thinking about this show a lot in the past week as we have seen major political campaigns use the LOST tactic of just making up random shit and then coming up with the explanations at a later date.
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Post by wilcinema on Nov 15, 2020 17:31:13 GMT
Ana Lucia could have been a great character if she had not been treated the way she was.
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Post by Barbie on Jun 19, 2021 23:03:20 GMT
I watched it for the first time last year and once again, and fuck I love it so much. I think the excellent acting from the entire cast makes the show even better. The best ones are Matthew Fox, Terry O’Quinn, and Michael Emerson. It’s criminal that the show doesn’t have more big awards especially individual episodes like The Constant
What are thoughts on the ending?
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Post by Barbie on Jun 20, 2021 0:53:25 GMT
Watching the S3 finale, I have to say...
Coming from personal experience,
Matthew Fox does a wonderful job of alcoholism... An AMAZING job of it... as much as it pains me to say.
But dear god, I FUCKING LOVE THIS SHOW! Matthew Fox is an excellent actor. It's a shame he quit acting. I read that he hated the fame aspect of it and was really overwhelmed with the attention he got at the height of Lost. He now lives a quiet life with his family.
The emotional scenes felt so raw, I love that kind of acting
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Post by DaleCooper on Jun 20, 2021 13:02:03 GMT
I watched it for the first time last year and once again, and fuck I love it so much. I think the excellent acting from the entire cast makes the show even better. The best ones are Matthew Fox, Terry O’Quinn, and Michael Emerson. It’s criminal that the show doesn’t have more big awards especially individual episodes like The Constant Yeah, some incredible performances and also great character arcs through the show. O'Quinn is probably the top performance only heightened by Locke turning into MiB, but Matthew Fox was fantastic as well. The Constant is brilliant (I will say that I think Lindelof topped himself with Watchmen's A God Walks Into A Bar which is a similar episode) but my favorite is Through The Looking Glass, the ending of that episode is pretty much peak television as far as I am concerned. What are thoughts on the ending? The ending as in the reveal that they were all dead in the sideways and in turn that 'whatever happened, happened'? I thought that was fine and I was happy with that, I just think that they spent way too much on the sideways plotline, as that was really nothinig but a device to keep us guessing about the final shot of the season five finale.
About the actual on-island ending, I used to really dislike it and I remember almost being done with the show at that point back in the day. The Jacob origin story (the episode Across the Sea) really threw me off at the time (I like that episode quite much now) so I didn't really know what to expect of the final and it didn't relaly do anything to change my overall opinion about the season. Having rewatched it a couple of times at this point, I've grown to like it much more and I think it ties together the arc of the final season really well. As a stand alone season the final season is also very good (although, as said, way too much time spent on the sideways) but I think as a continuation and ending to the story it doesn't really work too well. It's not so much that they don't answer the overaching questions in terms of the mystery - I think they answer enough, and give enough clues to piece together most of it. It's that some of the story lines they build up, especially during season four and five, either didn't have satisfying conlcusions or proved to be fairly immaterial in the grand scheme. Still love the show though, and the first five seasons are right up there with my favorite ever shows. |
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I actually think Season 3 is overall one of the very best parts of the series. I won’t argue that it has some of the show’s worst moments too, but the highs are HIGH. 
