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Post by evilbliss on Mar 16, 2019 20:08:26 GMT
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Post by CookiesNCream on Mar 16, 2019 20:29:22 GMT
I really do hope she receives a speedy recovery especially right after the timing of that stupid documentary.
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Post by bob-coppola on Mar 16, 2019 20:34:04 GMT
It must be horrible to be so attached to your parent to find out he was probably a pedophile. No matter what MJ did or did not, I feel really sorry for this girl.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 16, 2019 20:41:11 GMT
It must be horrible to be so attached to your parent to find out he was probably a pedophile. No matter what MJ did or did not, I feel really sorry for this girl. These allegations have been around for 30 years. I don't think she's just finding out about them, and like most of her family, probably considers them to be false and financially motivated. She's just a very sensitive person, and the negative energy of this latest round of media controversy surrounding her dad probably doesn't help her already fragile mental state. But she's had suicide and mental health issues before this latest controversy.
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Post by quetee on Mar 16, 2019 20:54:06 GMT
I wish her well. Those two guys have so many holes in their story. One sued the MJ Estate for 1.5 billion dollars, really? I don't know, sounds very suspect to me.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 16, 2019 21:00:44 GMT
I actually think the documentary maybe plays a bigger part in this than maybe we want to admit. The allegations have been around forever but imo they take on a whole different tone now and they always will.
I mean I saw that film and my first reaction was that has the sting of truth. Nothing about it feels false to me, everything about it feels true, horrifyingly so, and its not just allegations its a whole system of pattern and process and proceeds with a cruel, unforgiving logic. I have posted about this film several times, and to me it's a devastating journalistic work that just guts the artist, methodically.
Somewhere down the line the world will laugh at any who believes the family - they will be treated the way people who think Elvis is still alive, except it's not funny like that. His legacy isn't coming back imo and for Paris, what is their other than legacy?
I hope she's ok and recovers. Sad story - stories - all around.
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Post by quetee on Mar 16, 2019 21:16:37 GMT
I actually think the documentary maybe plays a bigger part in this than maybe we want to admit. The allegations have been around forever but imo they take on a whole different tone now and they always will. I mean I saw that film and my first reaction was that has the sting of truth. Nothing about it feels false to me, everything about it feels true, horrifyingly so, and its not just allegations its a whole system of pattern and process and proceeds with a cruel, unforgiving logic. I have posted about this film several times, and to me it's a devastating journalistic work that just guts the artist, methodically. Somewhere down the line the world will laugh at any who believes the family - they will be treated the way people who think Elvis is still alive, except it's not funny like that. His legacy isn't coming back imo and for Paris, what is their other than legacy? I hope she's ok and recovers. Sad story - stories - all around. I would be more inclined to believe them if one of them (Wade) didn't sue for 1.5 billion dollars years after the fact and only did so cause he was able to meet the new statue laws. In addition, if he's telling the truth, why did a judge toss his case for inconsistences in his story?
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Post by bob-coppola on Mar 16, 2019 21:21:20 GMT
I actually think the documentary maybe plays a bigger part in this than maybe we want to admit. The allegations have been around forever but imo they take on a whole different tone now and they always will. I mean I saw that film and my first reaction was that has the sting of truth. Nothing about it feels false to me, everything about it feels true, horrifyingly so, and its not just allegations its a whole system of pattern and process and proceeds with a cruel, unforgiving logic. I have posted about this film several times, and to me it's a devastating journalistic work that just guts the artist, methodically. Somewhere down the line the world will laugh at any who believes the family - they will be treated the way people who think Elvis is still alive, except it's not funny like that. His legacy isn't coming back imo and for Paris, what is their other than legacy? I hope she's ok and recovers. Sad story - stories - all around. Exactly. People need to face the fact that now the allegations are being taken seriously, society as a whole is ready to re-view this particular case right now. Radios are banning MJ, who knew this could happen? Paris was already a very broken girl, this whole thing must be messing with her head.
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Post by LaraQ on Mar 16, 2019 21:33:06 GMT
She idolised her Dad,these new allegations,which I absolutely believe,must be brutal for her to process.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 16, 2019 21:34:15 GMT
I actually think the documentary maybe plays a bigger part in this than maybe we want to admit. The allegations have been around forever but imo they take on a whole different tone now and they always will. I mean I saw that film and my first reaction was that has the sting of truth. Nothing about it feels false to me, everything about it feels true, horrifyingly so, and its not just allegations its a whole system of pattern and process and proceeds with a cruel, unforgiving logic. I have posted about this film several times, and to me it's a devastating journalistic work that just guts the artist, methodically. Somewhere down the line the world will laugh at any who believes the family - they will be treated the way people who think Elvis is still alive, except it's not funny like that. His legacy isn't coming back imo and for Paris, what is their other than legacy? I hope she's ok and recovers. Sad story - stories - all around. Everything about Leaving Neverland rings false to me, especially with the sheer amount of information out there that damages the credibility of the two accusers, particularly Wade Robson, who the more I read up on, is clearly a sociopathic liar. Robson sued the estate of Jackson twice, and the Judge ruled that no reasonable person could believe him to be telling the truth, so his suit was dismissed. Robson and Safechuck are appealing to suit, so what better way to help their case by trying it in the court of public opinion in a one sided, overly graphic documentary. I don't know whether Jackson ever abused anyone or not. It's certainly possible he might have. But Leaving Neverland changes nothing. It plays as a one sided interview with two inconsistent perjerours with a billion dollars to motivate them. If you've always thought Jackson was a pedo, then the documentary is designed to augment those feelings. But based on logic, evidence and my own research, it's just another tabloid story. I don't think the documentary had the impact it's backers hoped, as support for Jackson seems incredibly strong still on social media. But it's clear Jackson made some powerful enemies in the media who want his legacy buried. You know all the guns are being drawn when they whip out Oprah for this shit
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 16, 2019 21:36:35 GMT
I actually think the documentary maybe plays a bigger part in this than maybe we want to admit. The allegations have been around forever but imo they take on a whole different tone now and they always will. I mean I saw that film and my first reaction was that has the sting of truth. Nothing about it feels false to me, everything about it feels true, horrifyingly so, and its not just allegations its a whole system of pattern and process and proceeds with a cruel, unforgiving logic. I have posted about this film several times, and to me it's a devastating journalistic work that just guts the artist, methodically. Somewhere down the line the world will laugh at any who believes the family - they will be treated the way people who think Elvis is still alive, except it's not funny like that. His legacy isn't coming back imo and for Paris, what is their other than legacy? I hope she's ok and recovers. Sad story - stories - all around. I would be more inclined to believe them if one of them (Wade) didn't sue for 1.5 billion dollars years after the fact and only did so cause he was able to meet the new statue laws. In addition, if he's telling the truth, why did a judge toss his case for inconsistences in his story? I don't know if you've seen the film but if you see the film, it addresses this stuff and makes it hard to doubt them, imo. I hate to say just see it and make up your own mind but that's really what it comes down to - its that methodical and precise. To me the Michael Jackson story is a tragedy of Shakespearean proportions and this documentary plays into it too, that's what makes it so astonishing - a talented child becomes the worlds biggest star as an adult and is trapped in a psychological state of a child, and who then took that arrested state as a way to manipulate and control children. Who did this all in public for 40 years yet what keeps his memory "preserved" is the trappings of OUR adulthood - lawsuits, what people do for money, criminal statutes, etc. Those things are removed from childhood the way Jackson is removed from adulthood so the whole stories spin in this kind of circle........I once said in some old posts this film it's the most devastating account of sexual abuse ever - or the greatest descent of a major artist ever - and given the star level, the public masquerade of it (and fact that he won a court case), the type of star he was too (ie not someone behind the camera but in front of it etc).........
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Post by quetee on Mar 16, 2019 21:40:52 GMT
I actually think the documentary maybe plays a bigger part in this than maybe we want to admit. The allegations have been around forever but imo they take on a whole different tone now and they always will. I mean I saw that film and my first reaction was that has the sting of truth. Nothing about it feels false to me, everything about it feels true, horrifyingly so, and its not just allegations its a whole system of pattern and process and proceeds with a cruel, unforgiving logic. I have posted about this film several times, and to me it's a devastating journalistic work that just guts the artist, methodically. Somewhere down the line the world will laugh at any who believes the family - they will be treated the way people who think Elvis is still alive, except it's not funny like that. His legacy isn't coming back imo and for Paris, what is their other than legacy? I hope she's ok and recovers. Sad story - stories - all around. Exactly. People need to face the fact that now the allegations are being taken seriously, society as a whole is ready to re-view this particular case right now. Radios are banning MJ, who knew this could happen? Paris was already a very broken girl, this whole thing must be messing with her head. They were taken serious when he went to court in the early 2000's. Only then though, that was a civil case rather than a criminal case. I have a hard time understanding why MJ never went to jail especially with all that was said at the trial. These are different allegations by two people who said nothing happened when MJ was alive and now choose to sue his estate for over a billion dollars 10 years after his death. Why? I have problems with that because their story doesn't appear to be 100% truthful. If you have a story to tell and you are being truthful, you should not seek compensation, you should seek justice. Even after MJ died they didn't say one word they were trying to score VIP access to his funeral. These guys have huge holes in their story and I predict it will unravel sooner rather than later. It's a money grab. plain and simple.
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Post by evilbliss on Mar 16, 2019 21:54:25 GMT
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 16, 2019 23:52:54 GMT
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 17, 2019 0:46:45 GMT
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 17, 2019 0:49:52 GMT
"Don't sue my inheritance".
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Post by CookiesNCream on Mar 17, 2019 1:17:06 GMT
So this recent story has already aged poorly within a day?
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Aug 30, 2019 8:51:32 GMT
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