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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 6, 2019 0:03:46 GMT
There were a lot of bands in the US playing what would be known as "alternative Rock" before the term existed and they all hit in 84/85 - at this specific time these bands were pre-grunge really a mix of hard Rock/Punk it sometimes leaned towards prog or metal but all these bands got forgotten unless an audience sought them out and formed around them (Dinousaur Jr. for one). This from 1985 - a bunch of kids really - who would be forgotten today except Dave Grohl mentions them all the time......... still.
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 7, 2019 1:10:12 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 7, 2019 12:00:20 GMT
Posting for Sara Romweber their drummer who passed away this week at 55 from a brain tumor. This is one of the 80s great genre singles with a riff crossing The Plimsouls with REM.
RIP
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 7, 2019 15:02:33 GMT
Hey what was happening in the UK between The Queen is Dead (1986) and The Stone Roses (1989)........yeah not much but this was something new and when you hear it in the right frame of mind, quite wonderful too.
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Post by cherry68 on Mar 7, 2019 19:20:02 GMT
The album Synchronicity, by Police.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 8, 2019 17:01:14 GMT
This is from their 3rd album and they have an album that's a no brainer for top 25 of the 80s but this song was them in classic mode, almost self parody in a way but fantastic too- celebrating drug culture and their place in it like the Heartbreakers before them and a whole lot of bands after them.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 9, 2019 12:39:18 GMT
One of the decades very best rap songs and an even better video and it plays even better now in a way - - first of all - (almost) everybody in the video is white and the video is wittily in black and white too - "I don't think so" sums up his feelings on the whole thing, he's going back to Queens.
Sonic Youth and Kim Gordon (the Kurt Cobain of her day) famously mocked this in the 90s with their own great song "Kool Thing" but and I'm only kidding a little here - they were tone deaf hipsters who probably weren't having as much fun as LL anyway - although they sure weren't wrong either.
See two disparate things can both be true at once like New York vs. London Boys and The Takeover vs. Ether and you know political POVs too. It's a complicated world .....
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 10, 2019 19:12:18 GMT
One of the best songs to come out of Canada, one of '86 very best singles too and they were noticeably on Warners who was predicting these sort of (geeky) lesser alternative-type bands to break through any minute now. When Warners big band, Husker Du, only went to #140 (gulp) later in the year, well, they kind of re-thought that. But still, great single anyway..........
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 10, 2019 19:54:34 GMT
Prob the quintessential dad-rock band
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 10, 2019 23:03:24 GMT
Like the Only Ones (not as good but more popular) sorta and like the Smiths sorta (not as good but less affected and fey). This is a tremendous live band even now actually, they tour regularly and change the set list up but no new material for many, many years.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 11, 2019 13:09:25 GMT
Well, I've been skirting around what some people think would be the best band of the 80s (not me) - the Smiths. Creators of several superb non-album singles (Panic, Shoplifters of the World Unite, etc.), no bad albums (but only 1 great one, the 3rd) and an entirely unqiue sensibility in how they presented themselves aesthetically in single/album cover design and look. This, one of their most seductive songs, a non-album track, particularly funny in that droll/annoying/is he joking? Smiths way - he's been following them for 6 years and can explain his life in 5 seconds - call him morbid.........call him pale. Well alrighty then.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 11, 2019 15:36:44 GMT
Rock critics are like Oscar nominations - they are BS...... Sometimes though they are really BS (like now actually) - Led Zeppelin now receive great reviews, Bowie too.....in their day, one was sort of reviled, the other not held in the same esteem he came to be. In Rock you can be overrated in the exact moment you are great - The Clash, makers of 1979/80s consensus best album, "the only band that matters" started mattering less the very second that acclaim played out and they started on their next one "Sandinista!" - an album that got rave reviews, bankrupted the band, did everything wrong that London Calling did right and immediately sent people looking for another band that mattered. There was a great album scattered in Sandinista! but there were 2 bad ones released with it......it still shows up on best albums of all time lists......um yeah......... this would be on the great album side of things though:
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Post by cherry68 on Mar 11, 2019 16:47:55 GMT
The album The hurting, by Tears for fears.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 12, 2019 0:50:08 GMT
All these British bands in a decade where American bands ruled?!? Piss off you limey bastards.......The Pixies emerged at the end of the decade as the polar opposite of the bands they were lumped in with - those great early 80s Amerindie bands were all song bands, but The Pixies were a sound band. They advertised for their bassist with this : "band seeks bassist into Husker Du and Peter, Paul and Mary". Pixies songs were about nothing much, often with cool and odd for Rock sounds (Spaghetti westerns!), and, um, not necessarily in English. For 2 years, an EP and those first 2 albums, everyone pretty much loved them, then it started to run dry because it was never based on songs, but still........it was a helluva 2 years and they last for 3 more (and 2 more albums) in their initial run.
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 12, 2019 1:33:15 GMT
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Post by cherry68 on Mar 12, 2019 5:48:07 GMT
All these British bands in a decade where American bands ruled?!? I don't know how old are you and where you lived in the 80s, but I can assure you that in Europe American bands were almost unknown. Take a look at the top ten, especially years 1980-1986, and you'll tell me. I'm not talking about a single country, I'm saying that in whole Europe there was the so called British wave.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 12, 2019 11:21:16 GMT
All these British bands in a decade where American bands ruled?!? I don't know how old are you and where you lived in the 80s, but I can assure you that in Europe American bands were almost unknown. Take a look at the top ten, especially years 1980-1986, and you'll tell me. I'm not talking about a single country, I'm saying that in whole Europe there was the so called British wave. Indeed. It fits into my theory that the best bands (except in the 60s) are American but never on the charts - because we are always blinded by the Brits and those fake accents, see for example well........... ibbi ..........who all the girls on here think is "bloody dreamy" but who, to this day, drinks Bigelow English Breakfast tea in the late afternoon for Godsakes - he told me that! It's a controversial position I know and here is a song from the 80s itself that called out whole British (European) New Wave by a bunch of American brats being very American here: "Instant Club Hit (You'll Dance To Anything)".
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Post by cherry68 on Mar 12, 2019 15:30:24 GMT
I don't know how old are you and where you lived in the 80s, but I can assure you that in Europe American bands were almost unknown. Take a look at the top ten, especially years 1980-1986, and you'll tell me. I'm not talking about a single country, I'm saying that in whole Europe there was the so called British wave. Indeed. It fits into my theory that the best bands (except in the 60s) are American but never on the charts - because we are always blinded by the Brits and those fake accents, see for example well........... ibbi ..........who all the girls on here think is "bloody dreamy" but who, to this day, drinks Bigelow English Breakfast tea in the late afternoon for Godsakes - he told me that! It's a controversial position I know and here is a song from the 80s itself that called out whole British (European) New Wave by a bunch of American brats being very American here: "Instant Club Hit (You'll Dance To Anything)". It sounds a bad imitation of Whamrap. :/
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 12, 2019 16:08:16 GMT
Sometimes people say "pacinoyes what do you hate?" and I say "everything" BUT I especially hate when bands are reduced to their influence only - ie The Modern Lovers is a great record whether it influenced anybody or not - and while the influence is nice, that's not the record. I am not a believer that Nirvana influenced much good but they changed a ton of things and while I think people overrate their 80s album itself (though not Joaquim a man of great taste who runs these polls for us in Godlike fashion) I also think it did have 2 stunning songs on it "About A Girl" and.........this one - and it influenced a lot of stuff and ...........it sounded like its influences too. It's a tricky thing.
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 12, 2019 16:50:27 GMT
Sometimes people say "pacinoyes what do you hate?" and I say "everything" BUT I especially hate when bands are reduced to their influence only - ie The Modern Lovers is a great record whether it influenced anybody or not - and while the influence is nice, that's not the record. I am not a believer that Nirvana influenced much good but they changed a ton of things and while I think people overrate their 80s album itself (though not Joaquim a man of great taste who runs these polls for us in Godlike fashion) I also think it did have 2 stunning songs on it "About A Girl" and.........this one - and it influenced a lot of stuff and ...........it sounded like its influences too. It's a tricky thing.
Nope, sorry to disappoint. This will be #1 on my ballot.
Moving on to today's song, another Guns N' Roses. This album is too much of a classic to be left off the Top 25 (at least), but it's actually genuinely amazing. One of the best debuts ever.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 13, 2019 14:14:45 GMT
Going back to the Pixies not singing in English, this band didn't sometimes speak discernible language at all. It was all feeling and a rush - the guitars swirl, the drums pound, the singer conveys the words in tones or the words are conveyed through her in waves. Years after this Scottish band was yesterday's news every single UK band in the early 90s was ripping this off - My Bloody Valentine, Ride, Slowdive, Shoegaze in general. Their influence was enormous too .........even if you couldn't put it in words exactly.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 16, 2019 13:22:47 GMT
The great Grant Hart and his first post-band stuff in this song, a kind of 80s classic, he wryly inserts the line "I'm using" repeatedly to address his heroin habit, defiantly, symbolically. Listen to how wildly musical this song is - amazing organ, sexy chick backup singers too - certainly doesn't sound like the mere punk drummer from "that" band. His solo career is wildly uneven but he could really write and he was always the most coolly beautiful dude in the room - RIP.
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