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Post by JangoB on Feb 24, 2019 7:13:42 GMT
Colman all the way.
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Post by AKenjiB on Feb 24, 2019 7:18:24 GMT
I mean, I think Olivia Colman gave the better performance, but I'll definitely be happy for Glenn Close if she wins, which I'm predicting.
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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 24, 2019 7:55:55 GMT
I'm on my side. Always.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Feb 24, 2019 9:27:10 GMT
I mean, I think Olivia Colman gave the better performance, but I'll definitely be happy for Glenn Close if she wins, which I'm predicting. Yeah, I think that's how most people feel. We all know Close doesn't deserve it (at least not when compared to Colman), but from tomorrow on we will all be able to have a better sleep knowing that she already has an Oscar.
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Post by sirjeremy on Feb 24, 2019 10:08:19 GMT
Close, any day of the week. I might just be the only person in the U.K who's not in love with Colman.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 24, 2019 10:23:15 GMT
I don't really know how anyone can be Team Colman. I mean I would be happy if she won in a way - liked her about equally in theory - and the film is in my top 5 but who is she again? I'm kidding but I'll tell you who she isn't - she isn't an actress with 3 Tony Awards and 3 Emmys - like it isn't "Best Performance" to me - I have no problem, zip, zilch, nada with the most awarded actress in Triple Crown history getting her lifetime award in a year where she's at worst 2nd in the category. Sometimes I can get riled up if everything is equal and I have a rooting interest but everything is not equal - like If Denzel won a 3rd over Casey Affleck it would be undeserved AND unnecessary or when DDL won for Lincoln or Nicholson won AGAIG.......otherwise its their party so I always approach it like that. Don't tell me Close can win "another year" - she's 71 and she ain't Streep. Welcome to the club (and welcome to the even more exclusive Best Actress across all 3 mediums in the US - an even rarer club - in fact Irons should GTFO of this picture. Kidding )
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 14:26:06 GMT
I am Team Close (surprise! lol) - not just because of her Oscar history, but also because of the quality of her performance. It's major. I'm really not getting the strange aversion to her work or her film on this board (barring a few posters) - it reads as totally ageist to me.
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Post by bob-coppola on Feb 24, 2019 15:06:00 GMT
I'm all way Team Colman, but I'd be happy if Close wins and if she brings her dog to the stage just like last night.
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Post by TerryMontana on Feb 24, 2019 15:08:00 GMT
Love Close but for tomorrow, I'm team Colman.
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Post by filmnoir on Feb 24, 2019 15:56:40 GMT
Close carried her film. Category fraud with Colman. She's more supporting and Stone and Weisz are more leads.
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Post by hugobolso on Feb 24, 2019 16:22:44 GMT
Don't seen Close, but Colman is so perfect. Also I don't like Close speech.
So Colman, but I will be happy if Close wins, too.-
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Post by jasonjoliepitt on Feb 24, 2019 16:24:45 GMT
I just wish Colman wins because she absolutely deserves it! They could just give Close an Honorary Oscar the Peter O'Toole way. They are doing her the disservice giving her one for a performance she didn't deserve.
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Post by Zeb31 on Feb 24, 2019 20:15:41 GMT
Colman's is my favorite performance in the lineup, so her, but she, Close and McCarthy (who's absolutely wonderful and deserves more recognition than she's getting) would all be fine winners. I am Team Close (surprise! lol) - not just because of her Oscar history, but also because of the quality of her performance. It's major. I'm really not getting the strange aversion to her work or her film on this board (barring a few posters) - it reads as totally ageist to me. I don't think it's ageism as much as it is the fact that The Wife doesn't offer much (or anything) else to be passionate about outside of Close's performance, which diminishes the enthusiasm surrounding it. Obviously this is all subjective and it's perfectly possible to disagree, but the consensus (both here and elsewhere) is that Close is saddled with limited material and is forced to do all the heavy lifting herself (which she does with aplomb, but still), and that prevents this performance from being as memorable as her career highlights from the past. It's very similar to Still Alice in that regard, in that both women got strong (though not career-best) notices while the films themselves were written off as forgettable, largely listless vehicles to land beloved actresses their due accolades. If it seems that people were more excited to see Moore win than they are Close, it's mostly because Moore has been working non-stop since the 90s and has always been a consistently appreciated presence in high-profile projects, which is a status she's managed to maintain since her sweep (CC: @a24, let's get her some more love next year for Gloria Bell, please and thank you). Moore was also going through a bit of a career resurgence at the time, beginning with a BP nominee earlier this decade ( The Kids are All Right) and following it up with her Emmy, Globe and SAG-winning turn in Game Change, a major role in a billion-dollar franchise ( Hunger Games) and a Cannes-winning performance that very same year. That's some crazy career momentum she had there, which added to her narrative among cinephiles even if no one's listing Still Alice as one of their favorite Julianne Moore performances. Then there's the fact that unlike Moore, Close is up against a massively charismatic contender in a film that's pretty much beloved all across the board. The Favourite handily won our Best Picture simulation and has people raving not just Colman's performance but also the entire cast including her co-leads, the directing, the screenplay, the period design, the cinematography and the music. She doesn't have to carry the film on her own; instead, she expertly plays off of other outstanding performers delivering one of the sharpest, most delightful scripts of the year. That Colman herself is such a warm and humble person only makes people root for her more.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Feb 24, 2019 20:38:52 GMT
I haven’t seen the wife but I like Close better in general. Colman was indeed great in The Favourite, but I also thought she was clearly supporting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 21:32:33 GMT
Colman's is my favorite performance in the lineup, so her, but she, Close and McCarthy (who's absolutely wonderful and deserves more recognition than she's getting) would all be fine winners. I am Team Close (surprise! lol) - not just because of her Oscar history, but also because of the quality of her performance. It's major. I'm really not getting the strange aversion to her work or her film on this board (barring a few posters) - it reads as totally ageist to me. I don't think it's ageism as much as it is the fact that The Wife doesn't offer much (or anything) else to be passionate about outside of Close's performance, which diminishes the enthusiasm surrounding it. Obviously this is all subjective and it's perfectly possible to disagree, but the consensus (both here and elsewhere) is that Close is saddled with limited material and is forced to do all the heavy lifting herself (which she does with aplomb, but still), and that prevents this performance from being as memorable as her career highlights from the past. It's very similar to Still Alice in that regard, in that both women got strong (though not career-best) notices while the films themselves were written off as forgettable, largely listless vehicles to land beloved actresses their due accolades. If it seems that people were more excited to see Moore win than they are Close, it's mostly because Moore has been working non-stop since the 90s and has always been a consistently appreciated presence in high-profile projects, which is a status she's managed to maintain since her sweep (CC: @a24, let's get her some more love next year for Gloria Bell, please and thank you). Moore was also going through a bit of a career resurgence at the time, beginning with a BP nominee earlier this decade ( The Kids are All Right) and following it up with her Emmy, Globe and SAG-winning turn in Game Change, a major role in a billion-dollar franchise ( Hunger Games) and a Cannes-winning performance that very same year. That's some crazy career momentum she had there, which added to her narrative among cinephiles even if no one's listing Still Alice as one of their favorite Julianne Moore performances. Then there's the fact that unlike Moore, Close is up against a massively charismatic contender in a film that's pretty much beloved all across the board. The Favourite handily won our Best Picture simulation and has people raving not just Colman's performance but also the entire cast including her co-leads, the directing, the screenplay, the period design, the cinematography and the music. She doesn't have to carry the film on her own; instead, she expertly plays off of other outstanding performers delivering one of the sharpest, most delightful scripts of the year. That Colman herself is such a warm and humble person only makes people root for her more. That's just it, Zeb - I don't understand the hate for the film. Is it soapy? Sure. Unremarkable? Yeah. But downright bad? Hardly. Not even close. It's easily better than at least three of this year's Best Picture nominees.
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Post by finniussnrub on Feb 24, 2019 21:40:57 GMT
Colman and it ain't Close...wocka...wocka
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Post by rhodoraonline on Feb 24, 2019 21:58:24 GMT
Team either 😀
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Post by morton on Feb 24, 2019 22:03:21 GMT
Colman's is my favorite performance in the lineup, so her, but she, Close and McCarthy (who's absolutely wonderful and deserves more recognition than she's getting) would all be fine winners. I am Team Close (surprise! lol) - not just because of her Oscar history, but also because of the quality of her performance. It's major. I'm really not getting the strange aversion to her work or her film on this board (barring a few posters) - it reads as totally ageist to me. I don't think it's ageism as much as it is the fact that The Wife doesn't offer much (or anything) else to be passionate about outside of Close's performance, which diminishes the enthusiasm surrounding it. Obviously this is all subjective and it's perfectly possible to disagree, but the consensus (both here and elsewhere) is that Close is saddled with limited material and is forced to do all the heavy lifting herself (which she does with aplomb, but still), and that prevents this performance from being as memorable as her career highlights from the past. It's very similar to Still Alice in that regard, in that both women got strong (though not career-best) notices while the films themselves were written off as forgettable, largely listless vehicles to land beloved actresses their due accolades. If it seems that people were more excited to see Moore win than they are Close, it's mostly because Moore has been working non-stop since the 90s and has always been a consistently appreciated presence in high-profile projects, which is a status she's managed to maintain since her sweep (CC: @a24, let's get her some more love next year for Gloria Bell, please and thank you). Moore was also going through a bit of a career resurgence at the time, beginning with a BP nominee earlier this decade ( The Kids are All Right) and following it up with her Emmy, Globe and SAG-winning turn in Game Change, a major role in a billion-dollar franchise ( Hunger Games) and a Cannes-winning performance that very same year. That's some crazy career momentum she had there, which added to her narrative among cinephiles even if no one's listing Still Alice as one of their favorite Julianne Moore performances. Then there's the fact that unlike Moore, Close is up against a massively charismatic contender in a film that's pretty much beloved all across the board. The Favourite handily won our Best Picture simulation and has people raving not just Colman's performance but also the entire cast including her co-leads, the directing, the screenplay, the period design, the cinematography and the music. She doesn't have to carry the film on her own; instead, she expertly plays off of other outstanding performers delivering one of the sharpest, most delightful scripts of the year. That Colman herself is such a warm and humble person only makes people root for her more. Great points, I just wanted to add that I also think Moore was fortunate that she didn't have any competition that year. Not to say that she didn't deserve to win, but at least where I visited, there wasn't really any outcry over her winning like there was this year with Close fans vs. Colman fans vs. Gaga fans. I think there were some Rosamund Pike/ Gone Girl fans, I guess, but not very many, and Gone Girl underperformed with the Oscars, so it wasn't even like The Favourite/ A Star Is Born situation. Plus, the big 3 critics favorite Marion Cotillard had already won, and her nomination was somewhat of a surprise. I thought she would get in over Adams and Aniston, but I could see why people thought she wouldn't. Most regular film goers probably didn't even get a chance to see her film either, or cared that much as they do about Colman and Gaga. And Moore also won quite a few awards that year too even if she didn't win any of the big 3, not to mention being the runner-up at 2 of the big 3, so there wasn't as big of a switch going from the critics awards part of the season to the televised awards part of the season at least in the Best Actress category that year.
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 24, 2019 22:06:38 GMT
Sometimes I can get riled up if everything is equal and I have a rooting interest but everything is not equal - like If Denzel won a 3rd over Casey Affleck it would be undeserved AND unnecessary or when DDL won for Lincoln or Nicholson won AGAIG.......otherwise its their party so I always approach it like that. Horseshit. Affleck's robbery of Denzel wasn't as disgusting as Pacino's robbery of Denzel, but it was damn near close. And Pacino at least merited his make-up Oscar for the amount of times he got robbed. Affleck over Denzel was just a waste of an Oscar. Only consolation is that outside of places like this, Affleck's win is already aging pretty badly. And that Fences loss is probably going to indirectly lead to Denzel breaking Nicholson's nomination record on the way to a third acting win.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 24, 2019 22:15:10 GMT
Well that's a matter of opinion, I mean many, many awards bodies argued for Affleck - I'm not saying that "proves" anything - just saying it's a different POV in that contest.
Pacino's robbery of Denzel to me is fine, while I agree the race was between those 2 guys and Pacino didn't didn't deserve to win when you look at it directly - he also didn't deserve to lose 8 times either - especially when he had so much in his favor (2nd best in category imo, in a BP nominee, in a hit film, a double nominee that year).
As I said make-up Oscars are fine to me when deserved - ie Glenn Close deserves to win tonight. What isn't deserved is when people argue someone without merit (imo) getting a career win (ie if Cooper was to get one because he has 4 nods etc).
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Post by bob-coppola on Feb 24, 2019 22:48:00 GMT
Colman's is my favorite performance in the lineup, so her, but she, Close and McCarthy (who's absolutely wonderful and deserves more recognition than she's getting) would all be fine winners. I don't think it's ageism as much as it is the fact that The Wife doesn't offer much (or anything) else to be passionate about outside of Close's performance, which diminishes the enthusiasm surrounding it. Obviously this is all subjective and it's perfectly possible to disagree, but the consensus (both here and elsewhere) is that Close is saddled with limited material and is forced to do all the heavy lifting herself (which she does with aplomb, but still), and that prevents this performance from being as memorable as her career highlights from the past. It's very similar to Still Alice in that regard, in that both women got strong (though not career-best) notices while the films themselves were written off as forgettable, largely listless vehicles to land beloved actresses their due accolades. If it seems that people were more excited to see Moore win than they are Close, it's mostly because Moore has been working non-stop since the 90s and has always been a consistently appreciated presence in high-profile projects, which is a status she's managed to maintain since her sweep (CC: @a24, let's get her some more love next year for Gloria Bell, please and thank you). Moore was also going through a bit of a career resurgence at the time, beginning with a BP nominee earlier this decade ( The Kids are All Right) and following it up with her Emmy, Globe and SAG-winning turn in Game Change, a major role in a billion-dollar franchise ( Hunger Games) and a Cannes-winning performance that very same year. That's some crazy career momentum she had there, which added to her narrative among cinephiles even if no one's listing Still Alice as one of their favorite Julianne Moore performances. Then there's the fact that unlike Moore, Close is up against a massively charismatic contender in a film that's pretty much beloved all across the board. The Favourite handily won our Best Picture simulation and has people raving not just Colman's performance but also the entire cast including her co-leads, the directing, the screenplay, the period design, the cinematography and the music. She doesn't have to carry the film on her own; instead, she expertly plays off of other outstanding performers delivering one of the sharpest, most delightful scripts of the year. That Colman herself is such a warm and humble person only makes people root for her more. Great points, I just wanted to add that I also think Moore was fortunate that she didn't have any competition that year. Not to say that she didn't deserve to win, but at least where I visited, there wasn't really any outcry over her winning like there was this year with Close fans vs. Colman fans vs. Gaga fans. I think there were some Rosamund Pike/Gone Girl fans, I guess, but not very many, and Gone Girl underperformed with the Oscars, so it wasn't even like The Favourite/A Star Is Born situation.
Plus, the big 3 critics favorite Marion Cotillard had already won, and her nomination was somewhat of a surprise. I thought she would get in over Adams and Aniston, but I could see why people thought she wouldn't. Most regular film goers probably didn't even get a chance to see her film either, or cared that much as they do about Colman and Gaga. And Moore also won quite a few awards that year too even if she didn't win any of the big 3, not to mention being the runner-up at 2 of the big 3, so there wasn't as big of a switch going from the critics awards part of the season to the televised awards part of the season at least in the Best Actress category that year. I think Gone Girl was the movie that season with the biggest "fanbase", but none of them were members of the AMPAS. It had the biggest box-office of the category and the role of Amy became somewhat of an icon in the internet, but the Academy itself didn't seem to care about it. They didn't even throw it a bone in the screenplay category. I believe Pike would be the people's choice that year, but even still Moore was/is liked enough and also part of the "cool kids" crew.
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Post by Zeb31 on Feb 25, 2019 0:19:31 GMT
That's just it, Zeb - I don't understand the hate for the film. Is it soapy? Sure. Unremarkable? Yeah. But downright bad? Hardly. Not even close. It's easily better than at least three of this year's Best Picture nominees. I actually find it better than four of the BP nominees, but it's understandable that others don't. It's all subjective, and there's no right or wrong opinion. I love Roma and find it to be one of the most moving, emotionally cathartic experiences of the year, yet I completely understand why it leaves so many viewers completely cold.
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Post by hugobolso on Feb 25, 2019 4:04:58 GMT
Define Irony.
Glenn Close was defeated by the bunny lover
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Feb 25, 2019 4:20:22 GMT
Glenn’s clearly got this in the bag.
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Post by Viced on Feb 25, 2019 5:04:22 GMT
Reese to the rescue:
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