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Post by IceTruckDexter on Mar 2, 2017 21:01:08 GMT
Patrick Stewart seems the most likely candidate but I really think Jackman deserves something for this. It won't happen but Dafne Keen really is the showstopper here.
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Post by Kirk-Picard on Mar 2, 2017 21:07:20 GMT
non
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Post by DeepArcher on Mar 2, 2017 22:47:31 GMT
I think it could be in the mix à la Deadpool.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Mar 2, 2017 23:17:12 GMT
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Mar 4, 2017 9:57:59 GMT
I doubt it. Too early but it might help Jackman's chances for The Greatest Showman
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Mar 14, 2017 2:26:34 GMT
I doubt it. Too early but it might help Jackman's chances for The Greatest ShowmanBoo
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 2:37:41 GMT
no
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Post by cornnetto on Mar 14, 2017 2:55:59 GMT
Certainly can, if someone like Simon Kinberg ask for one (the guy will gross 5 billion box office gross with that studio in not too long), I'm not sure why Fox would not pay the 3.5 million, hire a couple of award specialist and not care much with what they decide to do.
That series printed money, involve people really powerful at Fox... if they want one, why not (at this point they can pay for it themselves).
Will they ask for one ? will they consider that is worth it once they see the competition and how long ago the movie was released that is far from certain. Or they will find it a bit embarrassing to do one because of the genre (and maybe go with one a little bit a la Deadpool if they do one).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 3:42:01 GMT
If Jackman or Stewart OD to death, consider their Oscar locked.
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Post by flasuss on Mar 14, 2017 3:52:19 GMT
Deadpool got a Golden Globe, WGA and PGA nom, so, yeah, they can. Depends on how strong the year will be, of course.
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Post by cornnetto on Mar 14, 2017 3:57:49 GMT
The only think you need for an award push is money no ?
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Post by flasuss on Mar 14, 2017 4:03:19 GMT
no because its never been that well regarded.
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Post by flasuss on Mar 14, 2017 4:10:18 GMT
The movie has 92% on RT (with a 7.8 average) and 77 on Metacritic, that is higher than Deadpool, and some of last year's nominees as well.
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Post by countjohn on Mar 14, 2017 5:15:04 GMT
I suppose Golden Globe nods, but hard to say it in my head Best Picture nominee Logan. There's no way they can saw Logan is a comedy, though.
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Post by countjohn on Mar 14, 2017 5:16:36 GMT
Stewart getting a "career achievement" Best Supporting Actor nom is something I can see happening. They may make a push for screenplay. BP and a Jackman nom (for this movie) aren't happening, though.
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Post by harlequinade on Mar 14, 2017 5:20:16 GMT
I really really hope it will
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Post by doddgerhardt on Mar 14, 2017 18:28:11 GMT
I actually think picture is more likely than any of the performances being singled out. Now picture still would be tough. In this whole anywhere from 5-10 BP, Logan would need what....250 first places? Something like that, right? I don't know if I see that happening. If they had to nominate a guaranteed 10, then maybe it would be more possible. Still I'm not throwing it outside the realm of possibility. It's social and political relevance might speak to the Academy along with it's old school western vibe.
Performances I think are even harder to get singled out in genres like these. Stewart has never been nominated, but he's arguably had more of a theater and tv career than a film one. Still if there is one category where the Academy sometimes thinks outside the box its the supporting acting categories. I think Jackman most of all is deserving of a best actor nomination, but I think when it comes to leading categories the Academy has this mentality of "come on now. Let's get serious." So I don't think Jackman has much of a shot even though there are plenty of aspects of his performance that reminiscent of previous nominated performances.
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Post by flasuss on Mar 14, 2017 19:25:12 GMT
Stewart depends on the year. There's some years which supporting has clearly filler nominations and I could see him getting easily- for example, in 2015 you had Robert Duvall for...The Judge(?). Clearly someone with some passion votes could get in.
Jackman I think will get nominated for The Greatest Showman, but with the popularity of Logan boosting him- like for example Alicia Vikander was nominated and won for The Danish Girl was partially based on the popularity of her performance in Ex Machina.
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Post by cornnetto on Mar 14, 2017 19:50:12 GMT
I actually think picture is more likely than any of the performances being singled out. Now picture still would be tough. In this whole anywhere from 5-10 BP, Logan would need what....250 first places? If I understand the voting correctly, and because usually 3 movie have most of the first place, you do not need to have a real single first place to make the best picture category, just to be below the first 2 or 3 fontrunner enough time.
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Post by elevenx23 on Mar 14, 2017 19:54:27 GMT
Picture breaking the preferential ballot bias towards middlebrow dramas a la Hidden Figures? Sure, Jan.
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Post by taranofprydain on Mar 14, 2017 19:55:54 GMT
It could. It fox did so much with Deadpool this past year, I am sure they will push this one too.
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Post by cornnetto on Mar 14, 2017 20:22:12 GMT
I seem to not be understanding the question correctly, when people are talking about a movie getting an Oscar push, are they talking about the movie getting that 3.5 million+ phase 1 budget ?
If so, that is not dependent and do not require actual chance of getting in.
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Post by spiralstatic on Mar 14, 2017 20:29:19 GMT
I think it'd be lovely for the film overall to get some recognition. There's 10 nominees, is there a chance of a BP nom? Come on, there's always a few awful films in there so Logan is sure to be better quality than some films that would otherwise get noms. Come on Academy..... It is brilliant!
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Post by elevenx23 on Mar 14, 2017 20:38:12 GMT
I think it'd be lovely for the film overall to get some recognition. There's 10 nominees, is there a chance of a BP nom? Come on, there's always a few awful films in there so Logan is sure to be better quality than some films that would otherwise get noms. Come on Academy..... It is brilliant! awful, mediocre, ect which just shows what their average taste is. They will never get tired of nominating TIG/TOE/Selma (dull biopic) The Help/Blind Side/Hidden Figures (white guilt crap), etc. That shit takes spots from better and more interesting movies.
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Post by harlequinade on Mar 15, 2017 7:47:55 GMT
I think it'd be lovely for the film overall to get some recognition. There's 10 nominees, is there a chance of a BP nom? Come on, there's always a few awful films in there so Logan is sure to be better quality than some films that would otherwise get noms. Come on Academy..... It is brilliant! Also CBM are such big part of cinema nowadays. Academy has the opportunity to show that when they are good they can look past 'oh, it's comic books/sci-fi/fantasy so we think it's not serious' "logic" that so many have. And nominating Logan and performances would encourage filmmakers to really take risks there instead of throwing the same CBM films at the audience - Marvel flicks are fun but it's the same damn movie all the time. . And no, awarding Suicide Squad was not them showing that If Jackman and Stewart gave those performances in a movie with no association to comic books people wouldn't hesitate to say they are getting nominated for this.
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