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Post by Pavan on Nov 4, 2018 6:33:21 GMT
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Post by cherry68 on Nov 4, 2018 6:39:12 GMT
I guess they know better...
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Nov 4, 2018 9:15:19 GMT
yeah a lot of these are pretty obvious picks, but thank god they placed 8½ above La Dolce Vita. Skimming this list, I see that they left out the only installment of Antonioni’s modernity trilogy that was interesting, and I didn't get much out of The Lives of Others, or Contempt, or Amour but I can't disagree with most of the choices that I've seen, but I still need to catch up on a lot of these. Worst inclusions are Oldboy and Amélie. ugh
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Post by fiosnasiob on Nov 4, 2018 9:33:35 GMT
Good list, I mean you can't really go wrong with these movies but it's basically the most well known great/masterpieces movies from the most well known foreign directors. I like it when I see some more obscures, hidden gems movies and said to myself "WoW, they saw and put this one, amazing !".
Good to see Zhang Yimou's To Live on it tho.
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 4, 2018 11:13:52 GMT
Over the years the list has changed in these types of polls - less Western Europe, less male if possible, more diverse. So that means more Kurosawa, more Ray, more wrong picks (there is no way that - Jeanne Dielman, 23 Commerce Quay, 1080 Brussels is the 14th greatest film to me, but you need a female I guess and you can't put it at 83 etc.)
For me who grew up with the Western Europe pics it takes some getting used to seeing them mostly lower or ignored now but its understandable - I am always a little bemused by these lists - its like ranking pancakes higher than omelettes in best breakfasts of all time. Shrug.
Lists like this are a lie really and sort of rewrite true cinematic history too - no Chabrol, Taviani's that's not MY cinematic history - but seeing the films on this list and seeing what's wrong with it is part of the fun too.
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Post by Pavan on Nov 4, 2018 15:06:37 GMT
Good list, I mean you can't really go wrong with these movies but i t's basically the most well known great/masterpieces movies from the most well known foreign directors. I like it when I see some more obscures, hidden gems movies and said to myself "WoW, they saw and put this one, amazing !". Good to see Zhang Yimou's To Live on it tho. Yeah. Pather Panchali is the only Indian film that makes into these lists. It's like they only have seen this one film from Satyajit Ray or a couple of others but forget that there's a world behind Ray and his films.
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Post by avnermoriarti on Nov 4, 2018 21:49:27 GMT
It seems like BBC wants to force inclusivity on the list, they though that inviting more female critics will translate in more films directed by women on the list, and the fact no japanese critic voted for Kurosawa speaks for itself. Try again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 1:21:43 GMT
Only one Visconti picture made the list?
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Post by Mattsby on Nov 5, 2018 1:32:16 GMT
Scattered quibbles......
> Blue from Kieslowski but no Red?
> To Live way higher than Raise the Red Lantern?
> Four from Tarkovsky but no Ivan's Childhood?
> no Memories of Murder? (with Oldboy at 29, you'd think...)
> and the two most surprising omissions: Forbidden Games & Au Revoir Les Enfants
> as for the female helmed question - where's The Ascent or something from Agnieska Holland?? also you'd think by now Madchen in Uniform ('31) would be in the Top 10 of these kinds of lists. Btwn its feminism (all-female cast, written and directed by women) its bold Nazi allegory and LGBT themes, not to mention its fascinating history with Eleanor Roosevelt, this should be a popular favorite wouldn't you think? Not like it hasn't been easily available online either...
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Nov 5, 2018 5:10:50 GMT
just realized there's no Costa-Gavras on this list
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